What’s the latest with Japan? I’d have thought a city like Tokyo would be ripe for a huge outbreak.
Just read an article this morning about it. New york is fecked. They will soon reach their limit and they don't have enough supply and materialsI was reading an article on how bad it could get in New York. I've been mainly concentrating on the UK and Europe in all of this, so America was a bit of a blind spot (obviously i knew some of what was happening out there as it's pretty hard to avoid). But after reading that, it sounds like things could be pretty horrific out there. There's a feeling that they have left it way too late in the City, and it could catch up with them in the next week or two.
Not sure how true all this is.
This is all absolutely true.He's been brought up on war movies and anniversary bunting.
Take a look at any classic British war movies of the 40s/50s - and you'll see the Spitfire pilots in the pub after a tour of duty. The plucky bombed out citizens having a singalong in the boozer before heading back down to the air raid shelter.
Like Brexit it appeals to a nostalgia about a time they didn't live but remember fondly as the stuff of childhood dreams of heroism and stoic resilience. The war rhetoric used by some of the politicians makes them want to join in a rousing chorus of "We'll meet again" - it would be comical if it wasn't so dangerous.
Just read an article this morning about it. New york is fecked. They will soon reach their limit and they don't have enough supply and materials
It seems crazy. food courts are simply removing seating but expect all units to stay open and trade as 'take outs'. This lockdown should have included all non essential shops, I understood the initial drip feed approach but now number are soaring we need a strict lockdown to at least get some data on it's effectiveness and to make everyone aware of the seriousness of the issue.Problem we have in our shopping centre is we have a Boots pharmacy, Sainsbury’s, 2 pound shop and a BnM. I assume once all shops have to close, the shops I mentioned won’t as they’re essential. Curious how they handle stuff like this, what happens if a shopping centre has just 1 of those shops, so they open it for that one?
They shut the shopping centres very abruptly here, unless there was a supermarket in there too - but all the shops in the mall that weren't grocery shops had to close straight away.Shopping centres/Malls in the UK are still open. I have skin in the game as an operator of a food unit but from a virus transmission point of view I am not impressed either.
Demand/footfall is massively reduced but still how many thousands will be at the trafford centre today? Staff and customers spreading transmitting. Food courts are just removing the seating area and acting as normal with just takeouts.
Completely agree, it seems insane to me, and also blatantly obvious that all non-essential retail shops need to be trading online only.It seems crazy. food courts are simply removing seating but expect all units to stay open and trade as 'take outs'. This lockdown should have included all non essential shops, I understood the initial drip feed approach but now number are soaring we need a strict lockdown to at least get some data on it's effectiveness and to make everyone aware of the seriousness of the issue.
I am still optimistic that if proper isolation was done we could get the worst out of the way in a 4-6 week period as China did, but only if we now act.
The tabaccherie have been allowed to stay open here, along with pharmacies and grocery shops.I bet a lot of people will give up smoking now.
It was in a German newspaper, but seems they have pulled away the paragraph about NY. They were citing the NY times, but the articles are behind a paywall.Got a linky for that? I told a friend of mine, ten days ago, stay the feck out of NYC. She is in NH and doing just fine there ATM.
Do you not think it will increase? I would imagine those who already do smoke will perhaps smoke more out of boredom as everything’s shut.I bet a lot of people will give up smoking now. What about all those twats who vape? That's a lot of young people intentionally fecking up their lungs.
Honestly, so many people don't give a feck about this sort of thing that's what worries me the most.I bet a lot of people will give up smoking now. What about all those twats who vape? That's a lot of young people intentionally fecking up their lungs.
Still only a thousand cases over here.What’s the latest with Japan? I’d have thought a city like Tokyo would be ripe for a huge outbreak.
How do you call them in english?The tabaccherie have been allowed to stay open here, along with pharmacies and grocery shops.
Ah that’s good then. Hopefully it stays like that.Still only a thousand cases over here.
TobacconistsHow do you call them in english?
La tobacconistHow do you call them in english?
A deep global recession is a given.I'm no expert on politics how are the government going to fund paying those wages? Does it mean borrowing and another recession?
I had to check, that's a nasty name. You need to find something better.La tobacconist
I bet a lot of people will give up smoking now. What about all those twats who vape? That's a lot of young people intentionally fecking up their lungs.
Its not going to be a depression. People have money and the markets are driven by different stimulus. Its not going to be pretty but we've got a better chance of a quicker recovery and avoidance of depression.There's going to be a huge recession. The question is whether we get a full blown depression like in the 1930s.
And yes, the government is planning to borrow the money and add to the national debt to fund the spending.
Do we need evidence?Is there any new evidence or new reports about smokers beeing more affected by Covid-19?
When I lived in San Francisco some years back, they were bicycle couriers who would deliver to your door.I'm wondering what happens to all the weed dispensaries in California and other states where it's legal. Home delivery perhaps!
Corner shops are the easiest to shop at now, pay a bit more, but they normally have most things you need day by day.It's a vicious circle that comes with panic buyers. Instead of spending 30 mins quickly in and out. I've just spent two hours exposing myself to all these unwashed coughers in multiple shops and only got a just a third of the food and the big supermarket near me was the most barren. I don't think they've restocked pasta or flour all week and today every bit of bread and milk all gone, pretty much all tinned stuff gone, fecking bananas all gone. I thought Saturday morning I might get something from there and would've thought people have filled their cupboards and freezers by now, many of these people have huge fat reserves as well.
The Japanese are very obedient though when it comes to rules and laws. Probably one of the best places for control measures to actually be followed.What’s the latest with Japan? I’d have thought a city like Tokyo would be ripe for a huge outbreak.
*Rant incoming*jojojo said:He's been brought up on war movies and anniversary bunting.
Take a look at any classic British war movies of the 40s/50s - and you'll see the Spitfire pilots in the pub after a tour of duty. The plucky bombed out citizens having a singalong in the boozer before heading back down to the air raid shelter.
Like Brexit it appeals to a nostalgia about a time they didn't live but remember fondly as the stuff of childhood dreams of heroism and stoic resilience. The war rhetoric used by some of the politicians makes them want to join in a rousing chorus of "We'll meet again" - it would be comical if it wasn't so dangerous.
Because shouting at China doesn't help the situation now. Judging by what I've read there's still some time to slow this all down and buy time, but the UK government is not doing it.Political Correctness at its worse. It’s ok to criticise Trump, Borris Johnson etc but i see very few people criticising the government that brought the world to its knees and fecked everything up.
Let’s not forget this virus has been going around since at least NOVEMBER and the Chinese government spent a month or two covering it up and putting people that were talking about it into jail.
If they had acted like any normal government, things would not be as bad as this.
imagine the outrage and memes if the world got fecked because some redneck in the USA ate something like a rattlesnake and a virus started in Kentucky.
And Instead of acting to stop it and warn the world Trump silenced and put the Dr’s that realised there was a new virus in prison and denied there was such a virus. And basically allowed the the thing to spread for 2 month across the world, can you imagine the hate he’d be getting?
I really don’t understand why we are more focused on criticising our own relatively transparent governments. When it’s the communist China’s lies and suppression on the truth that is responsible for this.
And when this settles down. Do we wait another 10, 20 years until the next virus that comes from China? SARS was only 20 years ago. More deadly then coronavirus but mutated to become less infectious so it killed itself.. that’s the only reason it didn’t wipe out half the world.
Where?Shopping centres busy today.
Seriously? Where?Shopping centres busy today.
You’re right about the “now”. But I just hope when it settles down people and the world’s governments remember that if China had acted in November or even December things would have been much different.Because shouting at China doesn't help the situation now. Judging by what I've read there's still some time to slow this all down and buy time, but the UK government is not doing it.