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Well I hope they drop, and quickly, we need some light at the end of the tunnel in Italy, as everyone else is in Europe is potentially in the same boat, just the timings are different, but may be Italy has got more deadly strain, and other countries won't suffer this, I live in hope anyway.They should drop as long as they are not asholes like in Spain that this weekend tried to go to their second residence. Will see how good the lock down had been. I chinese doctor based there said that they are not doing enough
Sure, the Chinese authorities have never ever lied. They are the beacon of freedom of press, freedom of speech and human rights.Magnificent list of completely unbiased sources.
I pray, I really do, then the next problem of working out how to release people back to their lives with be upon you, but the relief of seeing the numbers drop will be massive.That's what we're all praying for. I believe we have another few days before things were forecast to start improving.
Ok we’ll all try to find articles from Beijing Daily just for you.Magnificent list of completely unbiased sources.
Source?Apparently nearly 600 died today in Lombardy alone. Italy will reach 800 today and will exceed 1,000 deaths per day within a week. This is shocking.
The international diplomatic repercussions and ramifications of this can wait. When the time comes, and true evidence is found on what really happened, Im sure massive actions will be taken.Political Correctness at its worse. It’s ok to criticise Trump, Borris Johnson etc but i see very few people criticising the government that brought the world to its knees and fecked everything up.
Let’s not forget this virus has been going around since at least NOVEMBER and the Chinese government spent a month or two covering it up and putting people that were talking about it into jail.
If they had acted like any normal government, things would not be as bad as this.
imagine the outrage and memes if the world got fecked because some redneck in the USA ate something like a rattlesnake and a virus started in Kentucky.
And Instead of acting to stop it and warn the world Trump silenced and put the Dr’s that realised there was a new virus in prison and denied there was such a virus. And basically allowed the the thing to spread for 2 month across the world, can you imagine the hate he’d be getting?
I really don’t understand why we are more focused on criticising our own relatively transparent governments. When it’s the communist China’s lies and suppression on the truth that is responsible for this.
And when this settles down. Do we wait another 10, 20 years until the next virus that comes from China? SARS was only 20 years ago. More deadly then coronavirus but mutated to become less infectious so it killed itself.. that’s the only reason it didn’t wipe out half the world.
I fully agree. However I know the world’s reliance on China for investment and supply chain. Also I see Italians praising China and condemning their European neighbors because China is “helping” them. And I fear when it’s all done for the world’s government business will take priority, for those effected token gestures by the Chinese government will shut them up.The international diplomatic repercussions and ramifications of this can wait. When the time comes, and true evidence is found on what really happened, Im sure massive actions will be taken.
But for now wasting any energy blaming any nation is not a great use of time or emotion.
I think the north had lots of tourism from China, and other business.Why is it so concentrated in the north of Italy? I'm not hearing much reporting on the south of the country.
Because that's where the epidemy is centered, it's pretty much the same story everywhere. All countries have one or two areas that are really affected.Why is it so concentrated in the north of Italy? I'm not hearing much reporting on the south of the country.
Have just done some googling. The Daily Telegraph is reporting this, so it must be trueI wonder if the infected and dead in the north of Italy have more A blood types although given the Germanic tribal origins of people like those in Lombardy I would have thought not. The O blood type has no antigens in blood cells - these are molecules in the other blood types cells and viruses can use them. It doesn't mean people with O blood types won't get and die from the virus but apparently it's more resilient against it.
Are the Uk figures out?
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What a terrible eventuality. Who's next in line if they are out of action?I'm somewhat surprised that Pence and Trump are in the same room all the time. If the worst happens it means that both could be incapacitated at the same time.
What a terrible eventuality. Who's next in line if they are out of action?
What it seems you won't do, is retort to any of the points I made to you, on a essay that required of me nearly 30 minutes of my time, hundreds of hours of studying this pandemic, and tens of thousands of hours of professional knowledge.Ok we’ll all try to find articles from Beijing Daily just for you.
I suspect USA will force all their companies to relocate low wage manufacturing sites into India and sub continent and Mexico, as a form of retaliation if China can be proven to have been strategically culpable for this.I fully agree. However I know the world’s reliance on China for investment and supply chain. Also I see Italians praising China and condemning their European neighbors because China is “helping” them. And I fear when it’s all done for the world’s government business will take priority, for those effected token gestures by the Chinese government will shut them up.
What it seems you won't do, is retort to any of the points I made to you, on a essay that required of me nearly 30 minutes of my time, hundreds of hours of studying this pandemic, and tens of thousands of hours of professional knowledge.
Neither of those countries are known for their sanitary standards either, and the swine flu started in Mexico a decade ago so that's a no go.I suspect USA will force all their companies to relocate low wage manufacturing sites into India and sub continent and Mexico, as a form of retaliation if China can be proven to have been strategically culpable for this.
There is nothing to retort about, what you said is factual and documented. One thing that I maybe missed in your post is that chinese authorities believe that the first case was around mid-November but as you said they used hindsight to make that conclusion. An other thing that I find interesting and maybe you have some info about it, the case from December 1st isn't linked to the Wuhan market which apparently expended the research of the source beyond the market and maybe Wuhan?What it seems you won't do, is retort to any of the points I made to you, on a essay that required of me nearly 30 minutes of my time, hundreds of hours of studying this pandemic, and tens of thousands of hours of professional knowledge.
I was in hospital last night. Process was as follows;Harrowing numbers from Italy.
I fear for anyone going to an NHS hospital in 3-4 weeks time with the few beds and ICU beds we have compared to almost anyone in so called developed countries.
UK deaths are 233, up by 53
Scary. The poor guy sounds broken.Apologies if already seen but just got sent this.
well then the west will have to dramatically downgrade its standards of "commoditised luxury" if it has to bring manufacturing back into their own nations.Neither of those countries are known for their sanitary standards either, and the swine flu started in Mexico a decade ago so that's a no go.
Yes, I think that "earliest" known case was pushed back to November, but wasn't sure so I kept to the latest info I had myself. I haven't looked into the beginning of the pandemic for about a week, so am not sure what progress is being made there (it seems more academic than practical right now - it will be important in the future to prevent similar things).There is nothing to retort about, what you said is factual and documented. One thing that I maybe missed in your post is that chinese authorities believe that the first case was around mid-November but as you said they used hindsight to make that conclusion. An other thing that I find interesting and maybe you have some info about it, the case from December 1st isn't linked to the Wuhan market which apparently expended the research of the source beyond the market and maybe Wuhan?