That's exactly what will happen.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Look at the state of that Underground! It's from this morning right? London is fecked if so.
What can they realistically do to prevent that though? They literally need to close all non-essential businesses (I don't actually know if they've done this already).
What can they realistically do to prevent that though? They literally need to close all non-essential businesses (I don't actually know if they've done this already).
Yep. It's only a small inconvenience to fill out a form and it will force people to really think about how vital their trip out is, as they are getting ready to head out. I don't see a downside to it.
How hard is it for them to give clear guidelines, cock up at every turn.
Again, they knew this was coming yet this is their prepared result? Most employers and employees see their work as 'essential'
Again, they knew this was coming yet this is their prepared result? Most employers and employees see their work as 'essential'
So this is my facebook this morning:
This was her facebook 4 days ago
And this was her boyfriend the day before that
Times like this I want to point out what she did 4 days ago, but it's just not worth the hassle
This was her facebook 4 days ago
And this was her boyfriend the day before that
Times like this I want to point out what she did 4 days ago, but it's just not worth the hassle
surely have a full tube service at rush hour and ask employers to stagger start times. 9-5 isn't written in stone
Can't even do a proper lockdown. Current "restrictions" leave way too much areas to exploit and is just a waste of time before further restrictions will have to be added. Pointless.
So this is my facebook this morning:
This was her facebook 4 days ago
And this was her boyfriend the day before that
Times like this I want to point out what she did 4 days ago, but it's just not worth the hassle
everyone’s entitled to their own opinion like the choices we make are our own, no need to judge
This attitude is so fecking ubiquitous in the West. The choices we make are our own. Yes they are but your choices have consequences you utter twats. Not everything is about you and your life. Have some thought for those around you for once in your life.
I see that eejit Mike Ashley has had to go back on his intent to keep Sport Direct open.
I assumed that's what they did, or planned to do. Unfortunately it seems to be more vague shite from the Uk government again that leaves it essentially up to the businesses to decide if they're essential and if it's essential their workers come in instead of WFH.
Thank YOU africanspur!
Just some info to put into perspective the current denialist nonsense going on in Japan especially in its largest city Tokyo - little Adelaide in South Australia has around 1 million people and has conducted around 17,800 tests so far.
Japan with 125 million people including Tokyo with 13 million has not even conducted half of that number of tests. Having lived here for some time, I even doubt the right wing Government here, no not centre right, right wing, will be honest if there's a likely sharp increase in cases. Japan is claiming around less than 1,100 cases. It has now 45 deaths although some websites are not up to date and list the number as 42.
It's fair to assume the real number of cases is at least 2,500. The COVID-19 deaths will most likely be more and explained away by pre-existing conditions with no reference to the virus. Japan does few autopsies and is reasonably close to the Chinese Government in its censoriousness although still a basic democracy. One of its medical experts called the Govt out for its handling of the Diamond Princess Cruise Ship especially the exposure of ship staff. He later backtracked on social media. Sorry I can't recall his name.
I enjoy living and working here but I refuse to be a cheerleader for the facade that Japan puts up. There are many decent people here and they deserve better, both Japanese and foreigners.
There's a poster here who comes on and posts misleading info re Japan - ignore him or her, they live out in the sticks in a prefecture called Fukuyama which has nothing to do with big cities like Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya and Fukuoka. Fukuoka's numbers are laughably low - supposedly 5 cases, oh yes. It's a very popular tourist destination. I used to live there. Look Mum - No Tests, No Virus!
As well from outside
From deaths graphs, UK is the second worse country in the world in projection
I don't understand this graph when compared to the table, unless it's a couple of days old.
2 days ago we were on par with Italy, then we fell about 80 behind them at the same stage, and then yesterday over 100 behind them. If we fall further behind today, the signs are strongly that we won't get hit as hard as Italy. Yet this graph, has us in a worse position than Italy?
Maybe it's because this starts at the 10th death, and the table starts at the 3rd?
I don't think there are any rules. It's a waiting game to see how bad it gets. I don't think for a minute that we have peaked yet.
We won’t be leaving the house before society has a degree of herd immunity regardless. It’s part of the solution whatever path we take.
My God, that is frightening. That is an example of the perfect infection vector.
At least many Japanese on the subways/trains now are wearing masks. I'm not a fan of them - you have to keep focused on not getting infected by touching the cough and sneeze substances sprayed on them by others and when taking them off to speak etc you have to find a safe clean place to put them down. However, masks at close quarters hold in others' droplets.
I suspect Tokyo also has more train service times. Some lines have also had a small drop in passengers - the Yamanote Loop Line that runs around the city has less passengers so it's possible to find a car that isn't so crowded.
What on earth is Mr Khan doing not taking swift action about this? Why on earth isn't he even publicly talking about this? Just another conman masquerading as a leader? I don't know much about him so please fill me in.
No I don't think we've peaked yet either, but generally speaking most countries have followed a similar shaped curve, if we're consistently falling behind Italy and Spain then the odds are we won't get hit as bad. There are no guarantees though of course.
But in the line of thinking of 'there are no rules', any country could suddenly take a turn for the worse, and all the tables and graphs would be totally useless and serve no point. We can only go off the past data. From the table being shared we look to be fairing better than Italy and Spain, but time will tell
The London Underground this morning is an absolute embarrassment to Boris Johnson.
He claims to be taking this seriously, he's stopped us seeing friends & family yet it's ok for people to be crammed in to train carriages like sardines.
I understand TfL and ultimately the Mayor are in charge however surely Boris has to look at the pictures this morning and overrule, this cannot be allowed to continue - he should fix this by teatime rush hour.
He claims to be taking this seriously, he's stopped us seeing friends & family yet it's ok for people to be crammed in to train carriages like sardines.
I understand TfL and ultimately the Mayor are in charge however surely Boris has to look at the pictures this morning and overrule, this cannot be allowed to continue - he should fix this by teatime rush hour.
The tube yesterday was a nightmare, thank god I'm not in today.
that's what the civil service have started to do. problem is even at 9am yesterday with reduced services and train delays, some carriages were packed.
They can increase services assuming there are enough staff available and fit to work. You would like it to think it wouldn't, but there is a danger it could encourage people who don't need to travel to start getting on the tube.
If anyone is still wondering why people are confused.
Look at this tweet. The image on the left was the official government tweet before 10pm last night.
The one on the right is after 10pm.
Do not defend this.
Look at this tweet. The image on the left was the official government tweet before 10pm last night.
The one on the right is after 10pm.
Do not defend this.
Government should be paying cabbies in London, most of whom are sitting at home waiting to go bankrupt, to ferry the NHS workers to work and home. They have a divider so are safer than normal cars, and it gets them off the tube.
Just a general request...if you make a post about what it is like where you are can you please state your location so we can understand better?
How do you stay on top of the news like that?
So this is my facebook this morning:
This was her facebook 4 days ago
And this was her boyfriend the day before that
Times like this I want to point out what she did 4 days ago, but it's just not worth the hassle
Damn.Sorry but that’s a ridiculous suggestion. There is zero infection control methods with cabs and an extreme high risk of passing the virus on.
The answer is to address with more capacity on the tube to encourage distancing or to push all non-key workers to stay at home.
As is the attitude of 'well its up to the government to tell me what to do'. No it's fecking not. Use your common sense and stop going out. Until that realisation comes from the general population the virus won't get under control, the police can't possibly keep everybody at home all of the time.
Yeah Tfl need to do a lot more. They shouldn't be reducing services for one, more trains but control the amount allowed into stations so that people are spaced out.
The only thing that will stop people using it is making it slow and inconvenient.
The only thing that will stop people using it is making it slow and inconvenient.
I'm not following.
In a Cab there is two people, one driver, one NHS worker.
The cab can be wiped down between pickups.
On the tube, there are an unknown number of contacts and no method of maintaining cleanliness.
I can't see any situation where the former is worse than the latter.
They should just run more trains and spread the people out in London, the extra cost is tiny.
Also as said, use the cabs for essential workers like NHS staff.
Also as said, use the cabs for essential workers like NHS staff.
It isn’t, the tube will have deep cleaning at least once or twice per day. The cab isn’t going to get a deep clean at all. It’s a really bad idea and we should focus efforts on getting more capacity or supporting the self employed so they dont feel as though they have to come to work.
This seems sensible doesn’t it? More trains more distance between everyone.
A wipe down isn’t sufficient, public transportation needs physical deep clean. Driver will come into contact with it, and then go to his family and friends. It’s a really bad idea, muted heavily by health officials yesterday when the question was posed on a lot of the news channels.
Friend who works as a contractor building Aldi stores has said that Aldi have had to step in and close their construction sites as the government have failed to do so.
Yep - easiest solution.
But that's nonsense. The tube would need to be cleaned everytime a new person got in or out.