In what way would our lives change if he died? What is he doing that means he needs to be tested above people with more than mild symptoms?
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Perhaps. But you should not be able to pay your way out of this situation.
The MOT is up on my car so it misses the 30th of March date. It's going in this afternoon. The actual office part of the garage is shut but they said they're still doing repairs/MOT's. Just need to park up my car and post the keys through the letterbox.
Icelandic scientists claim there are up to forty strains of this virus doing the rounds, some are so mild you wouldn't know you have it, others that can kill you especially those people with other health problems, which are usually but not entirely in the age groups above 70. Nobody (as yet) seems to have a handle on how it mutates and if those with mild forms pass it on a mutated form to others. Its simple though, washing hands and keeping your distance is the most effective precautions you can take just now.
I can't get behind the paywall for this, but the gist is as follows:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...my-collapsing-as-services-shut-down-qnq27gkm2
You can't. You can pay to get tested but that's where it ends. The outcome for each person is a total lottery and no amount of money or influence can change that.
That is rubbish though. The virus will undoubtedly have been tearing through those packed bar areas for 4 days where everyone is shoulder to shoulder. It was a bad idea, many said as much at the time and it looks even worse in retrospect. You can be ambivalent about it, you’re not letting the side down - unless you genuinely think it wasn’t a poor decision, in which case I’ll leave you to it.
Our daily lives wouldn't change, but that's not the issue. The UK has a monarchy (like it or not) and they are still important people simply because of the office they hold - just like Boris Johnson. They get first-class medical care because that's what happens when you are at the top of the social tree in any country, just as these people never have to go to the shops, never do their own cleaning, never have to queue, get the best quality of travel every time they need to go somewhere. It's not fair, but fairness doesn't come into it when you're rich and famous.
And in any case, a lot of British people are still strong supporters of the monarchy. They're certainly not universally despised!
Has this chap factored in the decline in GDP that would inevitably happen if 1,000,000 people died and many more millions were hospitalised?
Edit: I've read it now, it's unclear whether he has or hasn't but I'm leaning towards hasn't.
I think it was a great decision. Lots of people had a good time and one fewer event/company facing bankruptcy this year.
Because literally just one person being infected in that 60,000, assuming an R0 of 2.5 for instance (most estimates have it as being between 2.2 and 2.8), would end up being the index case for approximately 10,000 cases.
We have in fact seen a very similar case already in South Korea where the 31st patient they identified failed to follow the isolation procedures and has infected a huge number of people indirectly though her actions.
You can say 'who cares about 10,000 cases in a country of 60,000,000? Well, with less cases confirmed so far in the UK, we have already had to cancel all elective surgeries, scale down outpatient services, go into war footing, pull other specialty doctors into the medical and intensive care units and some intensive care units (Hillingdon/ Northwick Park in London for instance) have already started overflowing into theatres and turning down other patients who may have gone to ICU.
So you can disagree with the measures, you can disagree with how people are coping. But it is false to say that one event holding 60,000 people will have had little effect to the infection rates in this country.
Others have alluded to this already and I'm not directing this at you specifically. It is totally OK to be curious, totally OK to be reading up on it and totally OK to have opinions on everything in life, including this. Why so many people are insisting on taking their often misguided opinions and presenting it as fact though I have no idea.
Careful you’ll hurt your back moving goalposts that much.
His age would put him in a higher risk group than you or me. Maybe he also has co-morbidities?
EDIT: I’ll admit I don’t know Uk testing criteria. In Ireland we’re using WHO criteria (as of last night) and anyone with a symptoms of COVID and a relevant co-morbidity gets a test. Before last night the criteria were much looser.
Well said.
It wouldn’t surprise me if over £100 million people have been infected by this thing so.
I’ve felt unwell with a bad cough for about 6 weeks now. Could be a bad cold, could be a mild flu, could be Covid 19. Who knows?
I’ve felt unwell with a bad cough for about 6 weeks now. Could be a bad cold, could be a mild flu, could be Covid 19. Who knows?
But fewer than front line health staff.
But think about the positive social benefits of watching Liverpool getting knocked out. You can't put a price on that.
Data models in Italy have put the R0 as high as 5.6 in late February when the virus was circulating unchecked, and it's currently estimated to be around 1.3-1.5 based on cases confirmed yesterday i.e cases acquired a week ago.
60,000 people from all over the country congregating in close proximity to each other. How the feck can they claim this is not dangerous, but walking on the streets less than 2m from strangers is dangerous? It was stupid as feck, and they deserve to be roundly criticized for it.
Cancelling all those matches a week earlier would have done virtually nothing in a society that was still continuing as normal.
And expecting all those people who were told it's fine to be there to suddenly accept they need to stay at home and away from others
I mean they'll have been a good number in those crowds who have now been advised it's too dangerous to even leave the house now for 12 weeks!
Nice job. Some people are just posting whatever they want to be the case without even a cursory reading of the events . As time consuming and tedious as it is, calling people on their careless bollocks has to be done.
But we are not next in line to the throne.
Speak for yourself, my missus has been in there for a fecking age.
Yeah and chanting and singing would project the virus about a lot.
Right now he shouldn’t be meeting any new people.
Big deal. There isn’t a shortage of people waiting to take his place.
If you don't like the next in line to the throne getting preferential treatment, don't have a throne.
While you do have a royal family though then it goes without saying that they will get preferential treatment in situations like this, in much the same way they would get security that others don't in a different context. If you have a royal family then the state is invested in protecting them, simple as that. They get that status simply based on who they are.
Obviously that isn't fair but then the concept of royalty has nothing to do with being fair.
While you do have a royal family though then it goes without saying that they will get preferential treatment in situations like this, in much the same way they would get security that others don't in a different context. If you have a royal family then the state is invested in protecting them, simple as that. They get that status simply based on who they are.
Obviously that isn't fair but then the concept of royalty has nothing to do with being fair.
They’re important because people say they are. The very fact they could all die and nothing would change show they are not any more important than anyone else. I don’t like Boris Johnson but he actually is important and ‘earned’ his position.
Good idea. I’ll just not have one then. Can I do that online?
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Looks like these folk really dodged a bullet.
if you're that desperate to get a test, just drop on down to Harley Street. £375 and it's all yours. or just stay in doors.
Intensive Care nurse in her 20s from Kings College hospital where 8 people have died from coronavirus has killed herself.
Can only despair at what she’s been through in recent days/weeks.
RIP
Can only despair at what she’s been through in recent days/weeks.
RIP
This isn't the place for an argument about the monarchy.
RIP, that sounds horrible.
feckin hell.
I desperately hope there's a public outcry to help all those in the NHS after the dust has settled. They all need support.
RIP
The mental health of people being stuck in their homes has oft been discussed, but the mental health of the Health Care professionals who are having to deal with this on the front lines is too often getting forgotten about, I hope the support needed for them is available
My god that is absolutely heartbreaking. I can’t imagine how difficult it is for these people on the front line and she no doubt didn’t see any signs of it letting up
It's just miserable.
It needs to get through to everybody that this thing is serious and painful and horrible. The "Lot's of people had a good time" people need to quickly grow the feck up.