Call the midwife.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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A genuine concern that has crossed my mind is how Ireland will handle the eventual re-opening of pubs.
In pretty much every other area I can see us being sensible as lockdown measures are gradually lifted but social distancing is kept in place. People will stay relatively well disciplined, I suspect.
In the particular case of the pubs though, I can't even imagine that happening. As soon as they open their doors there will be an absolute pile in. Which is a problem given this will presumably happen before a vaccine is available but also at a point where there is still a large swathe of the population yet to be infected.
The lockdown itself is absolutely fine but handling things post-lockdown will be much trickier.
In pretty much every other area I can see us being sensible as lockdown measures are gradually lifted but social distancing is kept in place. People will stay relatively well disciplined, I suspect.
In the particular case of the pubs though, I can't even imagine that happening. As soon as they open their doors there will be an absolute pile in. Which is a problem given this will presumably happen before a vaccine is available but also at a point where there is still a large swathe of the population yet to be infected.
The lockdown itself is absolutely fine but handling things post-lockdown will be much trickier.
I mean, my instinct is to tell the cops.
...but then, what if she's looking after children whose parents are in hospital with Coronavirus?
Then again, she can always tell that to the cops.
Yeah, that’s a fair point. It’s an OTT stance to take, but having followed orders and returned home I assume the man needs to eat. Hopefully he followed procedure ie washing hands, 2metres etc but needs must - we can’t completely avoid certain essential trips.
Wasn’t aware Thailand is any higher risk than here, though?
We are only testing those who end up in hospital... They are the people who are seriously ill from it.
Report that shit straight away.
This is Olly.
You can't put the death rate as a percentage against those tested who need hospital treatment. That is not an accurate representation of the death rate for the disease as a whole
I've just had a look at middle Eastern countries affected. Their deaths are negligible or single digits. Could be lack of management of the issue but then Iran seems to buck that trend and then some. What's going on there then (not Iran, we know about them)?
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Puts current numbers into context. Still a long way to go.
Pubs & Restaurants should be one of the last things to open tbh
According to a message on Facebook another neighbour is going to (or has done), which is good, she's absolutely awful and would make living next to her unbearable for the one that reported her.
AFAIK, she's had other adults over too, not just kids, like their parents and stuff.
If she's that bad, I would leave 'em to it. Let nature do its work.According to a message on Facebook another neighbour is going to (or has done), which is good, she's absolutely awful and would make living next to her unbearable for the one that reported her.
AFAIK, she's had other adults over too, not just kids, like their parents and stuff.
Tbf restaurants seemed to manage social distancing a lot better than the pubs did. But yeah, they definitely will be the last to open. I don't think either we or the UK have the restraint to see pubs re-opening as anything other than a cue for a piss up.
Italy's imminent numbers will probably push total deaths past 30k.
Wasn't that the best case estimate said at one of the press conferences last week? Worst case is 200k.
28 kids later.
Italy's numbers:
5,974 NEW CASES (TOTAL 92,472)
889 NEW DEATHS (TOTAL 10,023)
5,974 NEW CASES (TOTAL 92,472)
889 NEW DEATHS (TOTAL 10,023)
Where did that new case figure come from, @Samid? I'm seeing on La Repubblica that today there's 3,651 new positive cases, as opposed to 4,401 yesterday.
The number of recovered is 1,434 (589 yesterday).
Gives it here https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
I think these are new active cases. If you subtract the deaths and the recovered from the newly infected you get La Repubblica's number.
Yes, I was posting the new case figures.
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Civil Protection Agency always reports active cases first as that is what they are most concerned with for hospital utilisation.
Apparently hospitalizations and ICU admissions have been reducing drastically the last few days, not sure why that is.
Fair point. But active cases (which can die) and the silent cases (which are not tested and documented) probably balance each other.
There's 5974 new cases. There's 3651 new active cases. 5974 people tested positive but 1434 recovered and 889 died so there are now 3651 more people hospitalised than there were yesterday.
The new active cases are the main concern, though (notwithstanding the deaths, but those can't be controlled by national quarantine), surely? It's the daily new active positives that we need to focus on. The way it's reported in the press makes more sense to me, although I may be simplifying things.
I mean, it's all data, it all has it's uses. You could technically have negative new active cases, but if there still a thousand newly infected every day you probably wouldn't lift the quarantine measures just yet.
Yes, you're right on that. But as long as new infections are falling, it means something's working. It's great to see the numbers for recovered people rise, but sadly we can't affect the deaths once people have already caught it, beyond what the hospitals are doing.
I honestly think it'll be long time before the pubs are open again. I'd say they'll be one of the last things to come back for obvious reasons as you've said yourself.
I'm not sure why you think they'll open the pubs before we're out of the woods with this thing.
I now know 2 people hospitalised from this. One of them is my brother in laws mum (critical) and one of them works in my office, but not my room. He is 32. The room he works in only sent people home to work on Wednesday last week. The numbers in my area are about to rocket I inagine.
It's still mind boggling he was elected
Both I guess. The Us has done more tests than any other country, and is doing over 100k tests per day.
It also is very big, decentralized and the population is build over a libertarian system, which makes the virus easy to be spread.
The issue with the antibody tests currently being made is that they seem to be struggling in terms of specificity (according to the most recent literature, at least).
They seem to be picking up different corona viruses (inc. the seasonal ones, SARS, MERS etc..). More work is needed, but hopefully we'll get there soon enough. Would be game-changer for frontline staff.
Most have/are doing ok with supplemental O2, but some are still currently intubated. ITU admissions have been softer those past 2 weeks, we need to be harsher - it sounds callous, but the numbers we've had so far shows that it's not worth blocking beds for likely poor outcomes.
We live in an area with no confirmed cases, yet my wife has been experiencing shortness of breath for the last 3 days. She doesn't have a cough and also not a fever. Weird. Yet, we now worry she might have it.
Strange times.
Strange times.
I'm intrigued what happens if the results come back and rather than bringing medics out of self-isolation it results in even more needing to self-isolate.