The combination of exponential growth + more testing means it would be freakish if new cases weren't increasing rapidly.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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A good chance Italy will pass 10,000 deaths today. And if not today then on Monday.
UK passes a 1,000. Hoping records catching up and/or change of recording rather than an upsurge
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52077997
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52077997
A total of 120,776 people have been tested for coronavirus in the UK as of 9am on March 28.
We're still tracking roughly two weeks behind Italy and 9 days behind Spain.
The curve was showing very small signs of starting to flatten. Then had a bump in last day.
They reckon it's because virus is picking up in centre/South of Italy so while North (original epicentre) slowing, rest of country kicking up.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
You're right, it isn't quite at the peak nor is it declining but it should soon. However I know people in here and the media will focus on the 10,000 deaths. I've been following the Italian situation so the numbers aren't really that surprising for the most part. I think it will reach 15k, maybe 20k unless the decline happens soon or happens suddenly.
Haven't we been testing roughly 7 k a day for the last week or so ?
The DHSC tweet says 120,776 tests rather than people. That makes me think that at least some of those 120,776 were re-tests (which makes sense, given that we need to re-test in order to know when somebody is finally healthy).
But then the same tweet says that there were 17,089 positives. Should we be assuming that some of those positives also came from re-tests? Or have we had a grand total of 17.089 people with the disease? It's a little unclear.
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EDIT:Scratch that. The official site says it's people.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public
Wuhan, endless queues for ashes of coronavirus dead cast doubts on numbers
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Wuha...avirus-dead-cast-doubts-on-numbers-49673.html
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Wuha...avirus-dead-cast-doubts-on-numbers-49673.html
I don't actually think I'm a pigeon you know, to base your entire argument on that is a bit daft. It's also daft to not use a bit of common sense when you can go two weeks without showing any symptoms. I know it's difficult for you to understand that because, as you've already asserted; you think I think I'm a bird.I know you meant well, and I mean as well too. I'm just doing exactly as Government advised.
My sister works at UCL hospital and is tending to ventilated patients right now. I asked her advice hours before my flight, and she told me as per Ministry of Health, my requirement was work from home and isolation/distancing as other's UNTIL I noticed any symptoms, and then strict quarantine. I've read the website after I landed.
Forgive me for only listening/reading to official sources and not a person from internet who thinks he is a pigeon
It's EXTREMELY daft to get so uppity about the whole thing as well so I recommend you spend a couple of weeks thinking about why you're so defensive all the time on this forum. Preferably indoors and maintaining six feet of distance between you and others.
Six is the number after you've counted all the fingers one hand, just in case you're struggling. Again; I'm not an actual bird. Please try and remember that.
It’s more so him stating we need draconian measures etc, asking for manslaughter and premeditated murder charges, it was quite an emphatic stance to take. But then hes returned from a country that was put on the high risk and gone out shopping straight away. Wasnt anything to do with what you’ve said.
Hello Birdman!
Put some respec on his name
Doesn't think he's a pigeon. That's a good one.
Less tweeting. More posts please.
Mr. Birdman*
The UK is one of the most heavily surveilled countries in the world and has been for years. 1000s of private companies have access to "personal" data like this:
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South Korea were just more competent, prepared and proactive in dealing with the threat than the UK were, nothing to do with culture. Doubly so for the US.
If you have a ventilator, you are completely sedated for comfort. You are in what's called in layman's terms "medically induced coma" . Can't do anything. Applies for pretty much everyone on vent. Some (very few) do ok without sedation and so can communicate and even participate in physical therapy. But that's once in a blue moon.
Maybe you are right. But this is general data and not person specific. I doubt in USA you can use for example my GPS to monitor where I'm going and enforce isolation.
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I used to, at the start, and I recommend him. Makes some mistakes (which he usually humbly acknowledges and corrects on the following day, after feedback from viewers). It's mostly a simple and quick way to get up to par with things every day, specially for laymen. I think he's objective, and most of his points are consensual. Only reason I don't watch him as much is because he doesn't add much to what I can already gather on my own.
A big plus is that he has been doing this for quite a while, was one of the earliest, not one of those guys that woke up to this two weeks ago.
I know we have not got numbers for everyone who has covid 19 but 1019 deaths from 17089 positives means nearly 6% death rate. That is seriously worrying.
Its hardly a cure but the data is quite clear that in supplementation trial there is a small improvement for all people.
You...you don't ?
But fairly meaningless given the 17089 is almost certainly a small fraction of the actual number infected, and or course represents nearly all the most serious cases.
There are I suspect about 1m people who actually have the virus in the UK and the death rate will likely be about 1%.
OK. I have good news and bad news for you.
Good news is death rate in your example depends on denominator which is likely falsely low and would depend on how many you are testing.
Bad news is death rate does not matter much, because if you are unlucky enough to get it, while odds are you will do fine, if you are further unlucky to get sick enough to need mechanical ventilator not much can be done other than hope and wait.
Parties next year will be tempered by the mere thought of Covid-20
Portuguese ID cards are awesome. Almost impossible to hack and fake. If you lose your key codes, the only chance is to request a new card.
The chip is amazing. As a doctor, for example, I can use it to make electronic prescriptions on computers with a card reader. All that was needed was for our GMC equivalent to send the info to our government. It was such a complicated process a few years ago.
It's very confusing to me that there are countries where ID cards are not a thing. I mean, we live in a society with taxes, voting, etc. A proper and modern card using current technology makes all those things so much simpler. It replaces a shitload of documents, driver's license and passport being the noteworthy exceptions.
It's still around a further 7k tested in UK, they're not testing more yet.
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The US has some of the fewest privacy constraints in the world and definitely hundreds, likely thousands of irrelevant marketing companies have that kind of information about you as an individual. Over two weeks your location data might be shared over 5,000 times and the depth of it is unimaginable.
That's genuinely irrelevant marketing companies. Of course the government could do it. It's just a choice about law enforcement approach, not about capabilities.
We'll never know what the US and UK would've done in that situation because they didn't respond to it as well as South Korea did. We should recognise their work was so successful simply because it was exceptionally executed. The main thing they had in their favour was previous experience with SARS. It's normal that people took it much more seriously with that being so prominent in recent memory.
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The cnut next door is having people over, she's having other kids over to play with hers. She's a mega twat.
Call the police.
Call the police.