One of the rules is to have staggered shift patterns so people are not all commuting together, and the licenses required to open will mean a lot of companies will have to keep people at home. It won't be back to normal by any means.
Yeah I'd imagine so. I don't see why employers can't take the intiative here and start changing their working hours. What I mean is, it's not written in stone that every officer worker needs to be in the office from 9am-5pm. Why can't they do the exact same job from 11am-7pm instead? 10am-6pm? If employers started to be a bit more flexible it could mean less people cramming onto certain tubes/trains/buses. My employer is already talking about doing this once we're allowed to return to the workplace - staggering people's hours so that 50% of the office is always empty, coming to an agreement with each individual about what hours would work best for them, are there any specific trains/buses that make them nervous due to how busy they are etc.
I guess the problem is that even if you have limited numbers social distancing will definitely go out the window a few pints in. More so than restaurants, which would maybe have a better chance of opening.
I doubt it's just a question of capacity and even that might be an insurmountable issue, considering I just read that a German state demands people to keep a 50 meter distance before eating ice cream. Think about how pubs clean their glasses, they basically just give them a quick dunk in the water, everything is basically served in open containers and alcohol makes people careless and stupid. I think the best you can hope for is bottled beer.
I don’t think anyone who’s been able to do their job from home should - or will be allowed to - return to their office again when current lockdown is eased. And that will likely be the status quo for the next year or two.
Time heals, people forget. We're social creatures. It's not like humanity stopped socialising after the plagues or the Spanish flu.
Its a sizable fraction of the economy though if you consider all mass gatherings, restaurants and events.
Yeah but ... My Guinness
I know, I know.Yeah but ... My Guinness
I guess they could just set up a system on their website where you can reserve your slot. Or you just phone in. Businesses will have to adapt if they're going to survive.
There will be astroturf movements starting in the UK soon about opening up the country, targeted at the people who voted for Brexit. Similar to the "grassroot" AKA astroturf movement going on in USA now aimed at the conservatives/Trump supporters.
They can do male female only days.
The beer gardens are open here, though. And they sell draught beer. You just cannot sit down or consume it within the premises.
Staggered shift patterns makes sense, but obviously easier for some businesses to implement than others. I guess one obvious downside is that a lot of older, higher risk people are the business owners and senior managers of companies, who economically it is more important to have back in the business.
Oh god that sounds awful.
You can get all of the information yourself. Loads of people are churning out content on it.Happy to have a look, if you provide a link
The question a lot of businesses need to ask - how many people do they really need on site? I mean, if there are people who are just as effective WFH - why not just let them continue? And then for everyone else - check how frequently everyone else needs to be in?
Are they using glasses or throwaway plastic cups?
Imagine that in the UK? My other half gets a train from Bridgend to Cardiff 6 days a week (well, when she was working) and half the times the trains are randomly cancelled on short notice, with them putting two buses on to replace a train full of people commuting from a small town to the capital, missing smaller stations on the way.
It could be genetic differences. Have heard about household where one parent gets seriously unwell, the other only minor disease, with a similar pattern in their kids. Which could imply heritability of vulnerability.
Whilst I am not a fan, Labour have been promoting a 4 day (or less) week for ages now. In my opinion they can be a bit devil may care with the economy, but in principle, someone somewhere has done the maths and figures that it works. I could see that working, with only one overlap day to severely limit (effectively halve) those commuting. i.e., Half work Mon - half-way through Thursday, the rest, Thursday afternoon til Sunday. Sure that changes the concept of what weekend means, and it could feck over some families if anything like it was adopted, but maybe it's got merit.
I know I’m repeating myself here but you can’t accurately do per capita comparisons. The epidemic doesn’t instantly spread evenly throughout the entire population of a country so dividing the number of cases by the entire population will make outbreaks look worse in countries with small populations and less bad in more populous countries.
Oh I know that. I don't think a lot of what I said really hinges on per capita data. It basically makes it look slightly better, but that could essentially be for population density reasons and not because their strategy is great.
To early to tell, but given the restrictions in social movement in place in Denmark for some time compared to in Sweden with bars and nightclubs open, people living as normal etc, there is some reason to believe that they will have different outcomes.
Plastic
How long does it take to map someone's genetic code? And if it is indeed genetic, can one change someone's DNA? I guess not. I know this sounds silly, but I need to ask.
Too right, the tube is fine but the train, Jesus , the incompetence is staggering. And when you consider the money people are paying for it. It’s amazing that British people take it so well.
Yeah I guess, while it's preferable to have our team all together in the office, it's not essential, even if wfh is sub-optimal. That's the compromise I suppose and as someone with emphysema, albeit mild, it's probably no bad thing i stay mainly at home.
It really is crazy, it would make more sense for her to go to the Pencoed station as she can drive to there without paying for parking, but there were more than a few occasions where nothing showed up and everyone one the platform were left scrambling for ways to get into Cardiff - now I have to take her and pick her up from Bridgend.
Ah well, so I guess it's not too dissimilar from what the ice cream shops are doing. I'm not sure that will work outside of beer gardens and parks though. If your regular pub in the middle of the street tried that, even if you don't allow customers inside they would congregate on the sidewalks around the pub. To some degree you already see that with alcoholics and kiosks.
Yeah we're definitely about to start dancing here. Most schools opened on Wednesday for up to and including fifth grade (~650k pupils), more will follow this week after needing a bit more time to prepare. Some businesses are starting to open again. At the briefing the health guy put a lot of emphasis on the fact that with the gradual opening we'd still stay at an R of around 0.8 according to their models, of course under the assumption that people will keep up social distancing.
As long as you don't have any large gatherings with a massive spread of the virus, aggressive testing and common sense and restrictions, you guys should be relatively safe.
Very easy to police though. Better than all the certificate and time stamp stuff.
I’ve argued this for a long time. The UK is full of people (and this isn’t their fault) that have never really left their own village. They’ve been conditioned into accepting dogshit in relation to public services.
