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Seems like a good lad and speaks well on the topic. His views on relegation are fair - if all games are played then whoever is bottom should be relegated. If the PL is finished and the Championship isn't then it wouldn't be fair to relegate and promote teams - i agree with that too. Also in terms of coming back to play it isn't just about them as players but their respective home situations in terms of playing which is also very fair.
 

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Always liked John Barnes :lol:

John Barnes: 'Without relegation, Liverpool shouldn't be given the league’
Former Liverpool and England midfielder John Barnes says he thinks the league should be restarted “when we’re able to safely play again”.
Speaking to 5 Live’s Clare McDonnell, the Liverpool legend said the season “isn’t like Christmas Day has to be December 25th… the football season doesn’t have to be August to May, you can actually adjust”.
When asked if Liverpool should be given the league, John said “not if teams aren’t going to be called to be relegated, no."
I bet all the scousers were frothing at the mouth hearing him :lol:
 

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Norway is resuming football in June, Bundesliga is resuming, La Liga is resuming, and more.

It is actually possible to resume professional sports in safe environments. I say that because the medical professionals say it, and they quite frankly know more about this outbreak than anyone on this forum.

And especially in England, there is a very solid argument that football is good for the public mental health of thousands of football supporters who are confined to their homes. At least this gives people something to be happy and optimistic about.
Tell that to Norwich fans :lol:
 

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I bet all the scousers were frothing at the mouth hearing him :lol:
I don't think you got the actual message. He's saying give Liverpool the title and definitely relegate the annoying tossers at the bottom. :D
 

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Norway is resuming football in June, Bundesliga is resuming, La Liga is resuming, and more.

It is actually possible to resume professional sports in safe environments. I say that because the medical professionals say it, and they quite frankly know more about this outbreak than anyone on this forum.

And especially in England, there is a very solid argument that football is good for the public mental health of thousands of football supporters who are confined to their homes. At least this gives people something to be happy and optimistic about.
That is why they are scared as they can be and are working day and night. It is not medics that are pushing for football. It is TheFA.

Public mental health? If you looked at the only poll that have been about PL pretty much everyone don't care about football. Those people who are desperate for football to start and are going out of mind should try to find something else to occupy their time. Maybe add som puzzles.

If you resumes sports you got to resume everything. And if people have no problem with that then fair enough.
 

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Ah there you go with us hating football again.

Thought you werent going to post in this thread after the last time you got called out on spouting that crap?
Has any poster ever, in the history of forums followed through on their proclamation about "Not posting anymore?"
 

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That is why they are scared as they can be and are working day and night. It is not medics that are pushing for football. It is TheFA.

Public mental health? If you looked at the only poll that have been about PL pretty much everyone don't care about football. Those people who are desperate for football to start and are going out of mind should try to find something else to occupy their time. Maybe add som puzzles.

If you resumes sports you got to resume everything. And if people have no problem with that then fair enough.
Was that the YouGov poll where 79% said it would not raise their morale?

Or, in other words, over three quarters of those who replied don't give a monkeys about football coming back (yet at least).

The PL/FA seem to live in a world of their own.
 

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Was that the YouGov poll where 79% said it would not raise their morale?

Or, in other words, over three quarters of those who replied don't give a monkeys about football coming back (yet at least).

The PL/FA seem to live in a world of their own.
Not that the poll matters or should even be used but who exactly were they asking?
Was it football fans or just general members of the public. I suspect it’s the latter which would then make that poll completely irrelevant.
 

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Not that the poll matters or should even be used but who exactly were they asking?
Was it football fans or just general members of the public. I suspect it’s the latter which would then make that poll completely irrelevant.
Are you kidding me? Who else to ask then general members of the public? The FA members? Owners? It would be like asking Arsenal supporters who is the best team in London and take that for granted. Polls are for general members of the public. Not those who are connected with football.
 
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*Football in England: Government 'opens door for safe return in June'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52665805

Inevitable announcement. Pretty much every other country is either allowing for non essential industries to open (which includes sport) or stating it will happen in a month or so (in England, Spain and Italy’s case)

Now that over the last week several other European nations have announced the return of football, the early anti PL sentiments in this thread have faded. Which I never understood in the first place to be honest.

Rather bizarrely we still have the likes of @90 + 5min @Sky1981 still talking about null and void and how football shouldn’t be restarted. The ship has long sailed lads. It’s happening or at the very least there’s going to be considerable effort to make it happen.

Guess we now just wait and see.......

On a seperate note. Much earlier in this thread i said McDonalds would not be able to protect their staff to the level the PL intended to do and I was ridiculed. I won’t @ anybody but I do hope these people read the following.
Here’s an article

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ambles-uber-eats-delivery-driver-22026858.amp

The drivers were all bunched outside, it was chaotic, a danger for everyone involved.

"They hadn't even got security there, it was a joke.

"At the start they were letting drivers come into the store without masks.


Because we are self-employed I don't think they view us as proper people.....we're not employees so no-one needs to care about us.

"They let five drivers into the store but they'll also run to the door with deliveries."

He added that he felt the sanitising system in place was all but useless - as drivers were made to sanitise their bags with antibacterial
spray but not their gloves or hands.

"It was all just for show," he went on.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metr...st-day-reopening-since-lockdown-12697994/amp/

So they can’t stay two metres apart because there are far too many drivers queuing because McDonalds are having so many orders, because obviously what the nation needs right now as we begin our bid to become healthier is to stuff everyone’s faces with McDonalds.
 

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Inevitable announcement. Pretty much every other country is either allowing for non essential industries to open (which includes sport) or stating it will happen in a month or so (in England, Spain and Italy’s case)
Now that over the last week several other European nations have announced the return of football, the early anti PL sentiments in this thread have faded. Which I never understood in the first place to be honest.
Rather bizarrely we still have the likes of @90 + 5min @Sky1981 still talking about null and void and how football shouldn’t be restarted. The ship has long sailed lads. It’s happening or at the very least there’s going to be considerable effort to make it happen.
Guess we now just wait and see.......
I think it will start but will quickly get cancelled after a few matches after it proves to be a mockery and unworkable
 

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Are you kidding me? Who else to ask then general members of the public? The FA members? Owners? It would be like asking Arsenal supporters who is the best team in London and take that for granted. Polls are for general members of the public. Not those who are connected with football.
Are you actually kidding?
Why would you ask people who don’t watch football if the return of football would boost their morale? :lol:
That’s the most stupid thing you’ve said.... this week.

You ask football fans because then you’d have a stick to actually measure.
This thread is a perfect example that not all football fans would have a boost in morale because of a return to football. So your Arsenal comparison is completely nonsensical.
 

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We won't get anywhere when teams are still arguing about "Not fair"

The sooner we can accept that nothing can be fair, the sooner we can agree to some sort of new season mechanism.
Too right. Tough decisions need to be made and no matter what happens not everyone will be happy. Part of making these decisions means acknowledging you can't please everyone.
 

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I said i'd stop posting until a football return was announced, incase you haven't noticed (or want to pretend otherwise) the Bundi is back in just over 48 hours.
So are Koln going to play or are they still in quarantine ?
 

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I think it will start but will quickly get cancelled after a few matches after it proves to be a mockery and unworkable
I agree sammsky - it will probably be stopped AFTER Liverpool* get the points needed for the PL.
 

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I think it will start but will quickly get cancelled after a few matches after it proves to be a mockery and unworkable
Maybe, who knows? I think football will do all it can but those with the overall say will ultimately have the biggest impact. Dresden in Germany being the perfect example by forcing the club to isolate because two players tested positive. If that is the benchmark to be used by others then yeah this experiment would fall pretty quickly.
 

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Inevitable announcement. Pretty much every other country is either allowing for non essential industries to open (which includes sport) or stating it will happen in a month or so (in England, Spain and Italy’s case)

Now that over the last week several other European nations have announced the return of football, the early anti PL sentiments in this thread have faded. Which I never understood in the first place to be honest.

Rather bizarrely we still have the likes of @90 + 5min @Sky1981 still talking about null and void and how football shouldn’t be restarted. The ship has long sailed lads. It’s happening or at the very least there’s going to be considerable effort to make it happen.

Guess we now just wait and see.......

On a seperate note. Much earlier in this thread i said McDonalds would not be able to protect their staff to the level the PL intended to do and I was ridiculed. I won’t @ anybody but I do hope these people read the following.
Here’s an article

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ambles-uber-eats-delivery-driver-22026858.amp



https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metr...st-day-reopening-since-lockdown-12697994/amp/

So they can’t stay two metres apart because there are far too many drivers queuing because McDonalds are having so many orders, because obviously what the nation needs right now as we begin our bid to become healthier is to stuff everyone’s faces with McDonalds.
Why do you lie? I have never said it would be null and void. Show me where have I said that? I've said, stop the season, give Liverpool title and fix promotions, relegations and other leagues. Plan for next season. You will see the problems that will accure under the way.

Are you actually kidding?
Why would you ask people who don’t watch football if the return of football would boost their morale? :lol:
That’s the most stupid thing you’ve said.... this week.

You ask football fans because then you’d have a stick to actually measure.
This thread is a perfect example that not all football fans would have a boost in morale because of a return to football. So your Arsenal comparison is completely nonsensical.
Because we are talking about people in UK. Why would they be forgotten? It is not just about us football fans. If you vote for something then everyone have right to vote. Or do you think only politicians should have voted for Brexit? Only teachers should vote about schools and education questions? Should only party and disco people vote for opining of nightclubs? So tell me, how is it going to be a moral booster for those 75% who don't care about football?
 

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That was Dresden. They are going to miss the first two games and have asked to postpone their third match as well.
COVID-19: Cologne plans quarantine-like training camp
Bundesliga club Cologne announced it will head into a training camp in a protected location if politicians approve to conclude the 2019-20 campaign.


04 MAY, 2020 10:37 IST

Cologne is planning to move into a "quarantine-like" training camp after the Bundesliga club was hit with three positive coronavirus tests.

On Friday, Cologne announced three unspecified people at the club contracted COVID-19 amid the coronavirus pandemic, which has brought the Bundesliga and sport to a standstill globally.

The trio – which reportedly consists of two players and a physio – were consequently told to undergo a 14-day quarantine procedure.
 

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I agree sammsky - it will probably be stopped AFTER Liverpool* get the points needed for the PL.
Can Liverpool be declared champions, just because its mathematically impossible for anyone else to catch them? The table isn't being restarted purely for them to win a few more points, rather for all the Euro qualification and relegation places also to be confirmed.

Thats only possible after 38 games played. If I was another club aide from Liverpool, I'd ensure that was clarified before the restart.

Personally, I think you either play 38 games (already with a massive* beside it) or the season is totally voided.
 
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Can Liverpool be declared champions, just because its mathematically impossible for anyone else to catch them?
Yes, media and fans will ensure that happens. The amount of noise when they haven't mathematically won is a good indicator what is going to happen once they are mathematically in. Media will rage like anything if FA even considers anything else.
 

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COVID-19: Cologne plans quarantine-like training camp
Bundesliga club Cologne announced it will head into a training camp in a protected location if politicians approve to conclude the 2019-20 campaign.


04 MAY, 2020 10:37 IST

Cologne is planning to move into a "quarantine-like" training camp after the Bundesliga club was hit with three positive coronavirus tests.

On Friday, Cologne announced three unspecified people at the club contracted COVID-19 amid the coronavirus pandemic, which has brought the Bundesliga and sport to a standstill globally.

The trio – which reportedly consists of two players and a physio – were consequently told to undergo a 14-day quarantine procedure.
Every single club has been in a week-long "quarantine-like" training camp according to the league's plan.

Only infected players undergo the normal 14-day quarantine.
 

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Every single club has been in a week-long "quarantine-like" training camp according to the league's plan.

Only infected players undergo the normal 14-day quarantine.
So that's two teams who had players quarantined and the bundesliga is still going ahead.
 

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Yes, media and fans will ensure that happens. The amount of noise when they haven't mathematically won is a good indicator what is going to happen once they are mathematically in. Media will rage like anything if FA even considers anything else.
I think it should be stated in the new regulations. Am sure all clubs will insist.

What they agree, who knows!
 

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Why do you lie? I have never said it would be null and void. Show me where have I said that? I've said, stop the season, give Liverpool title and fix promotions, relegations and other leagues. Plan for next season. You will see the problems that will accure under the way.


Because we are talking about people in UK. Why would they be forgotten? It is not just about us football fans. If you vote for something then everyone have right to vote. Or do you think only politicians should have voted for Brexit? Only teachers should vote about schools and education questions? Should only party and disco people vote for opining of nightclubs? So tell me, how is it going to be a moral booster for those 75% who don't care about football?
You must have said about a thousand times in this thread. ‘Cancel the season but give Liverpool the title’ . That is basically saying null and void for 19 clubs but Liverpool can have their title. How are they supposed to fix promotions and relegations when they don’t finish the season? Do you really think clubs will accept relegation and promotion based on factors outside of playing actual matches.

What the heck? :lol: What are you not getting here? Why would people who don’t watch football say or think that football would boost theirs or others morale.
I don’t care about cricket. If I was asked “would cricket boost your morale”? I would say “would it feck” because I don’t care about cricket.
I would be a member of the public but the question would be daft because I don’t like or care about cricket.
As ive already stated asking football fans only would that poll then carry any weight because as we’ve seen through this thread. Not every football fan is behind the idea of football returning. In fact a significant amount are not.
 

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We should start lobbying to get the FA Cup restarted. I'll be surprised if this completes - are looking at 8 footy packed weekends supposedly.

And the trophy being presented inside an empty Anfield.

Altho neutral grounds remains possible too.

What a farce.
 

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You must have said about a thousand times in this thread. ‘Cancel the season but give Liverpool the title’ . That is basically saying null and void for 19 clubs but Liverpool can have their title. How are they supposed to fix promotions and relegations when they don’t finish the season? Do you really think clubs will accept relegation and promotion based on factors outside of playing actual matches.

What the heck? :lol: What are you not getting here? Why would people who don’t watch football say or think that football would boost theirs or others morale.
I don’t care about cricket. If I was asked “would cricket boost your morale”? I would say “would it feck” because I don’t care about cricket.
I would be a member of the public but the question would be daft because I don’t like or care about cricket.
As ive already stated asking football fans only would that poll then carry any weight because as we’ve seen through this thread. Not every football fan is behind the idea of football returning. In fact a significant amount are not.
No, it is not null and void. Tell me how you also include TheFA cup and Europa League/Champions League games (when required 14-day quarantine after every away game?). When should this season end? Tell me what you do with contracts that expire (Just look at EFL with over 1000 players in the last month now) ? Sponsors that changes from a certain date? With next season league? With EFL and other teams? Only fraction of problems.

It is not wrong. This virus is something we are all part of. Why would it be ok for only fans to vote? Why would you ask a small Group of people if football would be moral booster? Let me than ask you, is it okey to open nightlubs, pubs, restaurants and other places that some other people think are moral booster? According to you it would be ok. So let us all start cheering for goverment to open it. Or is it so that you are making difference between people and people?
 
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