David de Gea: I hope I can be here for many more years

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Friday 26 July 2019 - "Manchester United is delighted to announce that Dean Henderson has signed a new contract, which will keep him at the club until June 2022, with the option to extend for a further year."

Monday 16 September 2019 - "David De Gea has signed a new long-term contract with Manchester United, keeping him at the club until at least June 2023. There is an option to extend for a further year."
 

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We're in a bit of a predicament if he wants to see out the 5 year contract he signed in 2019.

We have Dean Henderson who we've sent out on loan for the last 5 years who has climbed up from the National League, League 2, League 1, Championship and now is arguably one of the Premier League's best goalkeepers and on the verge of being the England #1.

Would back Henderson if I'm honest.
De Gea is still far better than Henderson. Will be for at least another two years too.

I appreciate the fact that Henderson needs to play here to get better here.... but De Gea will probably finish his top flight career here. That’s not a predicament. It’s strength.
 

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De Gea vs Henderson is, as the cliche goes, a nice problem to have.
Well yeah but if De Gea keeps making mistakes and Henderson’s not playing, we could end up with Henderson wanting to leave and De Gea being a sub par keeper. Don’t think Henderson would come back to be second choice even for a season.
 

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We're in a bit of a predicament if he wants to see out the 5 year contract he signed in 2019.

We have Dean Henderson who we've sent out on loan for the last 5 years who has climbed up from the National League, League 2, League 1, Championship and now is arguably one of the Premier League's best goalkeepers and on the verge of being the England #1.

Would back Henderson if I'm honest.
DDG is still quality AND Henderson will have his time to shine.
It's all good to have such a well stocked position
 

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Football fans are so fickle.

Player wants to leave : abuse for being a traitor
Player wants to stay : abuse for wanting to stay
Player leaves : abuse the new guy for never being as good as prime old guy
Honestly, no one really abuse De Gea for wanted to leave. He kept it professional by not making it into public, when the transfer failed, he understood the situation and signed a new contract, and the fans also agreed if he leaves then because he was too good for us at that time. He could have collected some CL medal with Real if he was being unprofessional which could force the club to sell him few years ago.

However, compared to few years ago. Right now he's on massive wages and his performance wasn't really that great anymore. Not surprised with some people expect & want to see Dean in upcoming years.
 

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De Gea's rep has swung from being undisputably the best keeper in the league, and possibly in the world, to suddenly you listen to Peter Crouch's podcast and he's not even got a mention in top 5!
Mad.

I always think a good measure of how good a player is though, is how gutted you'd be if they left.
Right now, I don't think anyone would be.
 

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De Gea will find his form again as the team improves. He's still young at 29 for a keeper. It's been an endless transition period since Fergie quit, and that will affect your form.

The board overestimated De Gea's importance to us during contract talks, but the likes of Woodward knew there would be riots if we sold him, and De Gea's representatives capitalised on that.

Anyways all the big clubs in Europe seem to be okay for keepers, so I don't expect big offers for De Gea anytime soon.
 

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So highest wages for a goalkeeper and playing like a pub player so no one wants you made you change your mind... Great.
 

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Crazy that he's been here for a decade already. I still see him as the gangly looking dude that came across from Atletico. Time really flies huh.
 

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Why Madrid never went back in for him after that deal collapsed in 2015 ?
 

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Why Madrid never went back in for him after that deal collapsed in 2015 ?
Change in powers.

De Gea wanted to leave, not much time was left on his contract so all parties were ready to to agree. Didn't work out in the end.

After that situation, De Gea signed a massive contract, Madrid were still interested but we weren't ready to sell cheap like we were before, so Madrid moved on to Courtois.
 

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Keep both. DDG is first choice in the league. Henderson is first choice in the cups.

If Henderson wants Dave's place, prove you're better than him at Manchester United.
 

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Change in powers.

De Gea wanted to leave, not much time was left on his contract so all parties were ready to to agree. Didn't work out in the end.

After that situation, De Gea signed a massive contract, Madrid were still interested but we weren't ready to sell cheap like we were before, so Madrid moved on to Courtois.
Damn good thing, too. If De Gea had left then no top players would've come to us (not that many have since but you get what I mean).
 

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Ugh, another one who just throws the fm insult out there. Grim.
It's not an insult because it's true. To some people it's as easy as playing a video game. The same way some people thought James Wilson was good enough to be our striker. They are also the ones that hype all of the talented academy players over the moon but will be the one of many to complain at every mistake They make.

I'm looking forward for more threads about selling players.
 
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Change in powers.

De Gea wanted to leave, not much time was left on his contract so all parties were ready to to agree. Didn't work out in the end.

After that situation, De Gea signed a massive contract, Madrid were still interested but we weren't ready to sell cheap like we were before, so Madrid moved on to Courtois.
Florentino Perez usually when he gets his head around having a certain player doesn't give up. Some are like must have toys for him, so don't be surprised if they come back
 

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Why Madrid never went back in for him after that deal collapsed in 2015 ?
They continued showing interest for another year or two after that but it was obvious they were doing their usual thing where they wanted the player to make a huge deal about it so they could get him cheaper. De Gea refused to do that so they never took it any further as they knew they simply couldn't afford him at the price we would want.
 

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I'd definitely be persevering with DDG for another season / 18 months for sure. Get Henderson on a new contract, long term, back to SU and he can keep developing. I still think DDG has a lot to give and is still one of the absolute top keepers around.
 

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Was it good for him to waste his prime at a no-hoper of a club like ours?
Funny that you're getting #### for telling it as it is. De Gea single-handedly saved our arses for how many years in a row, now Henderson is suddenly better?... Please. Give me a break.
 

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Football fans are so fickle.

Player wants to leave : abuse for being a traitor
Player wants to stay : abuse for wanting to stay
Player leaves : abuse the new guy for never being as good as prime old guy
Thing is, with de Gea, pretty much everyone understood his desire to leave for Madrid because he was good enough to win the big trophies and we weren't. I don't remember him getting much abuse from United fans when it looked like it was only a matter of time before he signed for Madrid.

Even now, I don't see him getting abuse. I don't think saying he's past it and saying we need a better GK is abuse.
 

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I don't think any club will be interested in him anymore anyway.
 
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Change in powers.

De Gea wanted to leave, not much time was left on his contract so all parties were ready to to agree. Didn't work out in the end.

After that situation, De Gea signed a massive contract, Madrid were still interested but we weren't ready to sell cheap like we were before, so Madrid moved on to Courtois.
I still think that fax machine was bollocks from Real Madrid's end who wanted to actually sign him on a free the next summer due to the expiring contract. Always thought that royally pissed De Gea and his camp off which is why it was swiftly followed up with a long term deal with no release clause. Basically ended any serious links as well.
 

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So United is a charity now? The club should do whats best for DDG and not itself?
Completely two separate topics.
Club must without any question do what is best for the club. No place for emotions there. That is why, despite 12 years have passed, i am still pissed that we sold Ronaldo just because he cried that he wants to leave.

But on the other hand sometimes what is best for the club is not the best for the player. What is wrong in saying that? Ronaldo for example would never score that many goals in PL and i doubt that he would have won that many CL.
Same goes for DDG. I am very happy that he failed to go in Madrid but that fax maschine made huge damage to his career.
 

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Was it good for him to waste his prime at a no-hoper of a club like ours?
Touché :lol:

In a perfect world we'd have Dave as no.1 for another season or 2 while Hendo develops more on loan and hopefully gets a season of tutelage under Dave as his deputy/cup keeper like Romero after before taking the top role but human beings are complicated and I won't knock anyone for looking after their own careers so I can't see that scenario playing out realistically as much as I would love for it to.

We're gonna have a tough decision to make next year over who to back as the no.1 moving forward whenever Hendo gets tired of going on loan and feels ready to take that next step.

Dave has earned the benefit of the doubt to go out on his own terms with his loyalty and all his years of service and excellence during our toughest times in a generation but sentimentality in sport so often ends up backfiring/setting teams back in the long run so it's not exactly cut and dry
 

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Friday 26 July 2019 - "Manchester United is delighted to announce that Dean Henderson has signed a new contract, which will keep him at the club until June 2022, with the option to extend for a further year."

Monday 16 September 2019 - "David De Gea has signed a new long-term contract with Manchester United, keeping him at the club until at least June 2023. There is an option to extend for a further year."
Do you think that is a positive or a negative?
It’s a good problem to have for now.
 

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Do you think that is a positive or a negative?
It’s a good problem to have for now.
I think its a huge positive. They have one year where they could overlap, be teammates. Henderson knows what he wants and it's being United's #1. He has always said it and is comfortable taking his own path, going up the ranks.

The gaps for Henderson include the spotlight at a massive club, expectations that come with it, and how he copes with any mistake/conceded goal.

United haven't produced a homegrown #1 goalkeeper since Gary Bailey if what I have read is correct. Plus he could be England #1 soon, so that is not lost among the United hierarchy.
 

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Henderson is a good keeper, but I don't think he is right now as good as Romero, let alone De Gea. He might become the first choice in a couple of years, but as of now, it is good for him to get experience in a smaller club.
 

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Completely two separate topics.
Club must without any question do what is best for the club. No place for emotions there. That is why, despite 12 years have passed, i am still pissed that we sold Ronaldo just because he cried that he wants to leave.

But on the other hand sometimes what is best for the club is not the best for the player. What is wrong in saying that? Ronaldo for example would never score that many goals in PL and i doubt that he would have won that many CL.
Same goes for DDG. I am very happy that he failed to go in Madrid but that fax maschine made huge damage to his career.
I responded to a particular post which was in direct response to mine. Not sure why you equate those to two separate topics.
 

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Football fans are so fickle.

Player wants to leave : abuse for being a traitor
Player wants to stay : abuse for wanting to stay
Player leaves : abuse the new guy for never being as good as prime old guy
My sentiments as well. It always makes me laugh when fans whine about loyalty and then i see shit like this.
 
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According to The Forbes list, De Gea is the 11th highest paid footballer on the planet, above Gareth Bale and Alexis Sanchez.
You'd swear as some of these players are about to sign a new deal, that Woodward stares at them adoringly before saying with a wink 'Ah sure go on, you've earned it, I'll throw an extra 200,000 quid in a week for good measure'

https://www.balls.ie/football/five-premier-league-players-in-worlds-100-highest-paid-athletes-435411
You do understand that's not all salary right. Juve aren't paying ronaldo 100 million a year.
 

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According to The Forbes list, De Gea is the 11th highest paid footballer on the planet, above Gareth Bale and Alexis Sanchez.
You'd swear as some of these players are about to sign a new deal, that Woodward stares at them adoringly before saying with a wink 'Ah sure go on, you've earned it, I'll throw an extra 200,000 quid in a week for good measure'

https://www.balls.ie/football/five-premier-league-players-in-worlds-100-highest-paid-athletes-435411
That includes sponsorship deals. I'm fairly sure Salah or Pogba don't earn as much as De Gea but they would just have bigger sponsorship deals.
 

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You do understand that's not all salary right. Juve aren't paying ronaldo 100 million a year.
Well I would have thought Gareth Bale was a lot more marketable than David De Gea. De Gea barely gets his game for Spain so where do all his endorcments come from? Pogba only earned 3 million dollars more than him over the past year and he's supposed to be one of the most marketable athletes around.
 

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Well I would have thought Gareth Bale was a lot more marketable than David De Gea. De Gea barely gets his game for Spain so where do all his endorcments come from? Pogba only earned 3 million dollars more than him over the past year and he's supposed to be one of the most marketable athletes around.
feck knows. The article looks like bollocks anyway as it claims mo salah has a lower salary than pogba but earns 12m from endorsements. That means pogba earns very little from endorsements comparatively which like you say, would make no sense.
 

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My main thought is that it's his errors that have been the problem over the last year and a half, not his style of goalkeeping. If he he was in good form there would be few complaints, I think, as extremely high level shot-stopping is always good currency for a goalkeeper.
 

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My main thought is that it's his errors that have been the problem over the last year and a half, not his style of goalkeeping. If he he was in good form there would be few complaints, I think, as extremely high level shot-stopping is always good currency for a goalkeeper.
All keepers seem to be error prone minus Allison etc who are well protected.
Ederson was a God on here as a modern keeper and he's throwing out clangers every other game.