How many times? He cost us top 4 last season and is about to do it again.
David de Gea: I hope I can be here for many more years
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He's been bad since early 2018.
Seeing him make mistakes actively makes me sad. It's like watching a fighter you like take a beating.
I'm rooting for him but it's nearly two years of form ranging from "okay" to "nightmarish".
It's easy to say he's past it but the reality is that the overwhelming majority of his mistakes have come from concentration rather than slower reflexes. It's not like it has been a gradual decline either. He went straight from a brilliant season with us to a disastrous WC with Spain. I'd love to know what's going on in his head and what he's doing to fix these problems, because he needs to be doing something.
Whether Henderson is here next season or not, it's going to be a decisive one for De Gea. We hopefully won't need him to single-handedly save us as he did at his best but we do need him to be a hell of a lot better than he has been. If he's not.....
I'm rooting for him but it's nearly two years of form ranging from "okay" to "nightmarish".
It's easy to say he's past it but the reality is that the overwhelming majority of his mistakes have come from concentration rather than slower reflexes. It's not like it has been a gradual decline either. He went straight from a brilliant season with us to a disastrous WC with Spain. I'd love to know what's going on in his head and what he's doing to fix these problems, because he needs to be doing something.
Whether Henderson is here next season or not, it's going to be a decisive one for De Gea. We hopefully won't need him to single-handedly save us as he did at his best but we do need him to be a hell of a lot better than he has been. If he's not.....
Could have done better, but the goal was mostly Maguire's fault who got skinned during the action.
This is the kind of thinking that got Anderson eight years at the club.Seeing him make mistakes actively makes me sad. It's like watching a fighter you like take a beating.
I'm rooting for him but it's nearly two years of form ranging from "okay" to "nightmarish".
It's easy to say he's past it but the reality is that the overwhelming majority of his mistakes have come from concentration rather than slower reflexes. It's not like it has been a gradual decline either. He went straight from a brilliant season with us to a disastrous WC with Spain. I'd love to know what's going on in his head and what he's doing to fix these problems, because he needs to be doing something.
Whether Henderson is here next season or not, it's going to be a decisive one for De Gea. We hopefully won't need him to single-handedly save us as he did at his best but we do need him to be a hell of a lot better than he has been. If he's not.....
What other top club with persist with a player playing in such a key position after making such high-profile mistakes for 2 years?
It speaks to the mismanagement at the club over the last few years and how we are continually proactive rather than reactive that after a terrible World Cup and by far his worst season since his first couple of years that we gave him a £400k a week contract (because we've given the likes of Rooney, Sanchez and even Shw huge contracts that they never got close to living up to) that means we are stuck with him now. If this is just a dip in form it's been going on for a bloody long time.
Keane absolutely tore him and Maguire new one at halftime sheesh...
Made more mistakes in the last two years than the previous 7.
Is he going to be the difference that will end our top 4 hopes for the 2nd season?
Many of us were told that we were stupid for advising against giving him a new contract. He should be benched for the next game.
Hendo
Like most of our recent non wins De Gea has cost us. If he does his job competently we win. What's new?
Its time to move on from him but he's going to be very hard to sell with those wages. We can't just keep hin as number 1 over Henderson just because hes on a big wage though.
Its time to move on from him but he's going to be very hard to sell with those wages. We can't just keep hin as number 1 over Henderson just because hes on a big wage though.
Then like Sanchez, De Gea may be a negative influence in the dressing room. Its hand-strung situation for a manager to be put in especially by decisions made by Woody or the previous manager.
If not for his wages, would have been out the door. Hendo is doing much better while Romero is as solid backup keeper as they come. David needs to improve big time, otherwise, we are out of CL next season.
If he’d stopped that shot we may have won this game. We were the better team and completely gifted them a goal. He cost us top four last season and he’ll cost us top four again this season if he keeps doing this. Honestly at this point I think Romero would be a better choice.
Hes been poor since the world cup, and especially shit at times. Henderson must be given the chance to compete with him next season for first choice keeper at United.
He was unreal for the entire 2017-18 season. That guy who said hes been bad since the start of 2018 is talking nonsense.
He was unreal for the entire 2017-18 season. That guy who said hes been bad since the start of 2018 is talking nonsense.
No longer top 3 keeper in the world is quite a generous statement.... I think he is no longer top 5 keeper in the league.
Yeah except Anderson always only had potential, whereas DDG has actually sown he can be an incredible goalkeeper. So kind of a useless comparison.
But anyway, I think his past gives him the benefit of the doubt for the first year. However we are now in the second year where his performances have dipped. Its a long time and I think you have to be seriously considering at the end of this season if it’s time to move on.
I think that United's inability to buy a CM in summer was far more damaging. Yesterday's mistake was a collective effort from Shaw's childish header right then tortoise being outpaced so easily right to Ddg. That's 130m worth of talent there.
True. But it's a separate issue. Our CM position is now quite strong.
It was a poor header but you could see he was trying to play quickly and get it back from Bruno and get forward. I want us to play with that freedom and attacking intent. I'd prefer that than he just cleared it 30 yards to nobody. Ill forgive the odd misplaced pass or header in this case.
Maguire was terrible. Why show him inside?????
De Gea did what he usually does these days.
Henderson time.
His new deal looked a bit baffling at the time and the decision making of a club in a panic to hold on to its supposed best players.
Funny thing is I think United are probably a better overall squad and are playing better than under various times under Van Gaal and Mourinho but De Gea's form is like a -6 point swing vs a +6 point swing.
His good saves after he makes huge mistakes are letting people overlook the mistakes as much. I see a lot of posts that are 'he made a big mistake against -insert team- but he rescued us a point after that' which feels like justifying his mistake because he saved you after which is literally what he's paid as a GK to do. The mistakes are racking up now and he's morphing into Lloris who everyone on here laughs at for making shit mistakes all the time.
Watching Evra defending him was also kinda cringeworthy. Just accept that he's no longer half the GK he was a few years ago and drop him before we lose out on top four because of him again.
I was just about to comment the Lloris comparison I think it's an accurate reflection of his failing ability. I'll give De Gea credit because at his best, the rest of the team was absolutely shambolic. However, if we are to progress especially under what I'd consider an absolute rookie manager, we need to be consistent. De Gea and the aspect of consistency are non correlative. If anyone thinks Henderson will feature you have to consider the character of our manager, who has almost refused to rotate Romero despite David approaching three years of abysmal form.
That new contract is looking worse and worse by the day, and it looked pretty bad when it was awarded! To me anyway...
The bad form started with a dreadful world cup. So it's over two years not three.
His mistakes have been frequent, which is painful to say. Henderson should be given the chance by the looks of it.
Just seen a slow-mo replay of Spurs' goal. I've never been a goalkeeper or coached one either but I am going to pose a question that, I feel, will be a resounding no.
DdG has come out to make the block/save. The strike is a nice height, powerful but nice height for a goalie. His left hand is open, palm facing the ball, ready to put his strong wrist under the ball and lift it high IF it is too strong to hold but his right hand is a downward facing fist. If the ball hits his knuckles, his wrist is facing the wrong way. It ricochets off his knuckles and heads into the net.
If there are gk coaches or gk's reading this, is that now a training technique that is considered appropriate?
DdG has come out to make the block/save. The strike is a nice height, powerful but nice height for a goalie. His left hand is open, palm facing the ball, ready to put his strong wrist under the ball and lift it high IF it is too strong to hold but his right hand is a downward facing fist. If the ball hits his knuckles, his wrist is facing the wrong way. It ricochets off his knuckles and heads into the net.
If there are gk coaches or gk's reading this, is that now a training technique that is considered appropriate?
He might no longer be at the top. But outdated as a keeper? really? what an overreaction.
Not all teams need a GK that could play from the back or that are aggressive. I find it baffling when people use a select few teams as a point to proof "If your GK doesn't do this, He is outdated". What are GKs for? to prevent the ball from getting into the net. That's what.
The chance was Maguire's fault
The goal was DDGs fault
Any other team we would be saying dodgy keeper by now
Both very poor on the goal. Although I'd say Maguire's defending was even worse.Keane absolutely tore him and Maguire new one at halftime sheesh...
Well said
As brilliant as DDG has been over the years, he doesn't deserve to start for us right now. Were a low scoring team and can't afford to keep fielding an error ridden keeper
Hendo is racking up MotM performances. Can't wait to bench DDG from time to time. We should absolutely not lend Dean again.
I don’t think he organised a defence or controls his area in the ways one would hope of him by now. His reflexes have been so good that he has relied too much on them.
He's in danger of suffering the same fate Cech did at Chelsea as his performances as first choice continue to dip with a young keeper from the club excelling elsewhere on loan