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tjb

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The question is, do we really need Sancho though? We are already forming a great partnership in attack with Rashford, Martial and Greenwood up front, we only need some good backup, but surely not another top young talented forward who should be guarantee starter?

Sure for better squad depth and necessary to compete at all fronts, it’s always better to have more options. But imagine we are in CL final and one of them have to sit on bench, I don’t think either of them will be too happy in long run. I mean, it could develop to another Sane situation at City, or Lukaku situation at United (although we want him out too), or another Robben/Higuain situation at Real.
I agree that sancho specifically may not be necessary, especially given his potential fee. However, rashford and martial have had batches of bad form and are not always reliable as of yet. Adding another winger would allow us to not be so reliant on the flanks on rashford and greenwood, which is risky given their age.
 

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He is incredible.

His all round play has also been great since the restart. He's far more involved in the buildup and highlighting his obvious technical qualities. Also, what can go unnoticed is his intelligence, decision making and ability to retain possession. He's very rarely loose or casual in his link up play.
Truthfully, I think he's exposing how bad in comparison rashford and martial were on the flanks. Thankfully they've matured this season. His awareness, press resistance and composure on the turn are things we barely saw from either of them.
 

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Incredible kid and ridiculous finisher. For 18 years it's ridiculous how complete he's. Can shot with his 2 legs with no problem and is always dangerous.

This can be a cliche saying but I really he's one in a generation talent, especially for us.
Agreed. I know hyperbole gets thrown around willy nilly about young players, but hes class already and will only get better.

The power and accuracy he has with both feet is frankly absurd. All his goals since the break has been NSFW
 

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His link up play on the counter is really good. It’s usually one touch lay off and he’s on his bike. His got vision and decent passing range for a striker. Definitely not just a finisher.
Which is required for a modern striker. Actually for any GOAT striker in the past also. For instance, Denis Law had an excellent playmaking too.
 
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I can't explain how he is able to generate so much power with no separation from defenders at all. This is why I believe he is the real deal, his quick trigger is faster than Scholes. He does not any back swing and this does not alert defenders that he is about to shoot. He, has superb balance when he strikes the ball as well. I am glad he has Ole guiding him. Can you imagine Jose bringing him up ? Jesus thank you.
His two-footedness is just incredible for his age.

And yes. Jose wouldn't know how to bring the best of this kid.
 

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Truthfully, I think he's exposing how bad in comparison rashford and martial were on the flanks. Thankfully they've matured this season. His awareness, press resistance and composure on the turn are things we barely saw from either of them.
To be fair to Rashford and Martial they did look really good under Lvg, they started looking like average talents under Jose.
 

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To be fair to Rashford and Martial they did look really good under Lvg, they started looking like average talents under Jose.
To an extent, but just look at how much control Greenwood has on the ball and the way he can get out of tight situations. We literally haven't had that on the flanks since Nani.

Martial for years wasn't willing to swap flanks. Rashford always needed space to operate in game or he was anonymous (previously). Even this season, when passes got to them with their back to goal, it was always ok for them to.lose possession because they had limited support but I've seen Greenwood turn defenders on his own and get out of those tight spots. It's what I see from other top team's wingers but not ours. Now we at least know that Martial is a striker and rashford.has expanded his game and is a bit better with his awareness on the ball.
 

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Rashford was nailed on as "the face" of Manchester United for years to come.

But now, I'm not so sure. Greenwood could easily surpass him in a few years.
 

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Meh, didn't score with his head yet. Average. Don't want
In all seriousness after Chicharito and Vidic gone, we are terrible at heading. Martial and Pogba are OK. Mason is average at best. Rashford and Maguire are terrible.
 

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The kid is incredible I just fecking knew that he will score. He is that good, absolute golden talent this boy and he is ours. Give the kid a proper shirt number now, absolutely love him.
 

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I asked this in the other thread. Going to send out feelers tomorrow.
Let me know what you find. :devil:

I thought rashford has been the best out the front line this season ?
He arguably has been. Certainly had the highest peak, although he also had a couple of periods where he wasn't playing very well. He hasn't been all that good since the lockdown ended.

Actually, that's harsh. Rashford's shooting and dribbling haven't been as good, but since the return he's actually improved his passing and vision quite a lot. Instead of being the one scoring the goals, most of his important involvement has been getting the assist or setting up the attacking movement. It's actually quite impressive as if he can combine that with the dribbling and scoring that he was showing earlier in the season it's going to allow him to rise to the next level. Overall though he's probably been the 'worst' of the front three at the moment.
 

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He's brilliant but he will surely have a run of bad games at some point or another. It's table stakes with any teenager, no matter how good. We need Sancho simply because we need depth with quality. Especially over an entire season with 50+ games
 

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His xG should be treated with a little caution. If he continues outperforming it like he is now then he'll be approaching Messi levels of unplayability. Teams can't defend against those low probability goals. We have seen him score goals like this in the youth level on a consistent basis but I think it's best to remain a little sceptical at this point.
 

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When he shoots from 20 yards or closer you just expect back of the net to ripple. When it doesn't its such a baffled feeling, like playing a computer game and wondering if you've put the cheat code in correctly
This, this! Remember that first shot he had last night after a run through the middle when his shot ended in Reinas hands, i was honestly a bit surprised.
 

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Well today, Reina had all the right to be pissed off at his defense. They gave him too much space to shot(same with Pogba's goal). Defense should have at least forced him to take his shot quicker rather than set himself up nicely than canon the ball into the back of the net.
I mean it was on the counter, defenders and midfielders are busy to get back to the line.

Not much you can do anyway, because once he got that space, left or right who fecking knows man, I pity those defenders.
 

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Anyone got goosebumps when the commentator panned at him on the bench and said " Mason Greenwood the phenomenon."

Yeah son, go and take R9 nickname, no pressure.
 

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The kid is incredible I just fecking knew that he will score. He is that good, absolute golden talent this boy and he is ours. Give the kid a proper shirt number now, absolutely love him.
Feck that, our shirt numbers carry a curse. Leave him at 26.
 

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Will he be a cf next season ?
Unsure that it should actually be an issue.
I'll go with Evra's view here and say let the guy develop where he is - a lot of the world's best and most influential players - Ronaldo, Messi, Hazard (of old), Salah, etc. have spent their best years as wide forwards (even Thierry drifted in from the left most times), so I'd say the same about Greenwood, he'll be dangerous either way, and right now at least the team seems perfectly balanced where he is.
 

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On a great path, but let's not forget Rashford had a very similar start, looked like he couldn't miss. Most young players have a tough second season after the breakout year. Shouldn't expect him to carry on this form forever and allow him to develop.
 

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On a great path, but let's not forget Rashford had a very similar start, looked like he couldn't miss. Most young players have a tough second season after the breakout year. Shouldn't expect him to carry on this form forever and allow him to develop.
Greenwood is different gravy, Rashford was a bright prospect.

I think like we all agreed here, Greenwood is elite level talent. No offense to Rashy though, big fan of the guy.
 

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He is one goal short(16 goals so far) of equalling the record set by Georges Best, Brian Kidd, Wayne Rooney as most goals scored by "teenagers" for Manchester United...
 

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His xG should be treated with a little caution. If he continues outperforming it like he is now then he'll be approaching Messi levels of unplayability. Teams can't defend against those low probability goals. We have seen him score goals like this in the youth level on a consistent basis but I think it's best to remain a little sceptical at this point.
It’s got to the stage at the moment where I couldn’t believe Reina saved that shot he had low down to his left. On second viewing he scuffed it a bit and it wasn’t in the corner. Then on third viewing Reina barely got there. He’s just impossible to anticipate, not saying he will continue scoring at this rate, but it’s so exciting.
 

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His xG should be treated with a little caution. If he continues outperforming it like he is now then he'll be approaching Messi levels of unplayability. Teams can't defend against those low probability goals. We have seen him score goals like this in the youth level on a consistent basis but I think it's best to remain a little sceptical at this point.
Not so sure about that. Just because average players might no score the goal doesn't mean an excellent talent wouldn't.

thinking back to all the goals he's scored there isn't many that I think "shouldn't have scored that", he just makes them look normal due to his accuracy and power he hits it with.

He will no doubt end up having a bad patch but his base level is usually extremely high. I know reserve football isn't the same but he was genuinely dangerous in pretty much 9/10 matches he played.

I see no reason with the way he plays right now why he can't keep up a consistently high level.
 

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I thought rashford has been the best out the front line this season ?
I notice you support Chelsea mate, so just asking, do you watch all our games? If not, I'd strongly advise you not to go by what pundits say - as they'll naturally be pro English.

If you do, unsure how you figure so certainly that Rashford has been the best - he's been great though and is a big reason we have much to fight for now, however, Martial has been just as good and is just as much a reason. Incidentally, they've both struggled with the other out. Each seems happier and more likely to score with the other on the pitch (makes sense when you consider who their team mates were).

Prior to now, Greenwood was mostly played as an impact sub, even though in all honesty before he filled out during the break, as much as he always had a goal in him, he didn't impact the flow of games as much as the other two. Now though, he's a completely different kettle of fish. He's just deadly with an inevitability of destruction about him that is uncommon, not just in our team, but in football period. In his case though, I would be wary of overplaying him while he's still growing, for the protection of his longer term career.

Difficult to say who's been the best over the season. I'll actually feel sorry for any of the 3 that starts getting rotated more than the rest if Sancho does come in.

The bigger question is while fans firmly believe the right thing would be to bring Sancho in either way, would ED release the funds now?
 

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His xG should be treated with a little caution. If he continues outperforming it like he is now then he'll be approaching Messi levels of unplayability. Teams can't defend against those low probability goals. We have seen him score goals like this in the youth level on a consistent basis but I think it's best to remain a little sceptical at this point.
Do Xg take into consideration whether player shoots with weaker foot?
 
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