Unfortunately I don't see it happening, as the result ins very unfavorable, Guardiola is a very astute coach and City have more talent at their peaks at the moment, but I hope that the game turns out to be interesting at least.
I get that, I see where you are coming from I just shared my view without dismissing yours. I can't dissociate Barcelona's problems with the way they are run, I think that it's the source of all their problems, there is too much distractions and focus on things that aren't important. But you have a point when you look at Barcelona's managers in the last decade we have Guardiola, Villanova, Martino, Luis Enrique, Valverde and Quique Setièn, on the day of their appointments you would be forgiven if you assumed that they were on their ways to Valencia or Sevilla, so I see your point but I don't think that it's a midtable mentality that is at the heart of their problems but the lunacy of their executives.
“This wasn’t enough in La Liga. If we don’t change, we will lose to Napoli too.” - that's a bit different than simply saying they'll lose against Napoli. He's saying that they can't afford to play shite against Napoli which is, well, obvious.
But that's just the thing. He starts from the point of view that they might not be good enough to beat Napoli. They are Barcelona
Honestly, this reads like vulgar armchair psychology to me. "Mentality" is probably the most overused word on football forums.
And yet they keep folding, year after year. At the first sign of adversity they crumble and start doubting everything. This has been happening for years now
Who cares if they are Barcelona? If they don't play well they won't win matches.
Yes but that's not because Messi said they might lose to Napoli.
His style is a bit boring. Great man manager though and pushing his players to the right degree. Tactically smart as well, but not coaching a basic style of play that can be used against everyone.
Miguel Muñoz won 15 trophies, but in 10 years, Zidane has 11 in 4. They are not trophies of the same magnitude but both have something in common.
Missing the point. It's the fact they are afraid they won't be ready that is the point. It's an indication of a lack of confidence in the team which just shouldn't be happening for a side with that much talent and potential, which has been there for years
Based on those posts, wouldn't it be a quality of Zidane to recognize how to get the most out of Ronaldo? I'm sure Zidane doesn't just tell Ronaldo to do whatever he wants. He must carve out some role for him, and set up the team to support that (in addition to all other tasks). I mean, as you can see at Barcelona this year, just having the best player in the world doesn't guarantee results, in any game.
I usually hate sports cliches but this one seems accurate. Capitulation FC.
I looked at it out of curiosity and I have not found recent seasons with 23 goals (if he keeps a clean sheet in the last game) or less than 30
That's amazing to consider for arguably the biggest football team in the world. I've never remembered them as having a great defense, even during the days of Mourinho they weren't solid at the back.
Fecking hell.
Of course it's not a direct cause but it's symptomatic of the broader problem. A top team with a top mentality wouldn't be voicing these sorts of things in public, especially with everything to play for after a 1-1 draw away in the first leg.
I was thinking the same thing, in CapelloThat's amazing to consider for arguably the biggest football team in the world. I've never remembered them as having a great defense, even during the days of Mourinho they weren't solid at the back.
23 goals conceded and 68 goals scored, that's the anthiesis of Madrid football..... Wait does that mean Zidane will be sacked like Cappello was in 07 despite winning the league?
(although he was sacked in his second stage at the club, 2006?) That speaks about Zidane's influence in the club.Total tangent, but now that you mentioned him: how is Beenhakker rated by Real Madrid fans?
Tbh I would still be reluctant to take Zidane at United. You can be great in one place and fail elsewhere; I think he is a perfect cultural fit at Real, and I'm not sure that translates as well as you think cross-culturally. If he had done it outside of Madrid I'd feel differently, but as long as it's his only managerial experience I'd be wary.
I don't know who said it on here, I think it was maybe @Theonas.
What manager was ever this great at 1 club though and then failed elsewhere?
Actually he is quite ignored.
Agreed with all of this - I suspect that the difference may lie in managers that are tactically flexible vs. those who are more dogmatic. Personally I associate Real Madrid, Milan, and Liverpool with a greater degree of tactical flexibility and as being generally less wedded to a particular style of play. That flexibility allows for a side to be a bit more of a wildcard in cup ties, but the inherent lack of consistency week over week will almost inevitably result in dropped points & thus a mediocre title challenge.
