Better than both. Better than Chelsea’s by a huge amount.Where would you all class our back 5 (De Gea, AWB, Lindelöf, Maguire, Shaw) in comparison with Arsenal and Chelsea's?
Nonsense. He's been our best CB. 4th best in Europe in aerial duels; absolutely vital given our set piece issues.Because Zouma is Stoke City level
Zouma is comfortably Chelsea's second best defender after Azpilicueta imo.Because Zouma is Stoke City level
On this showing much better. Both of these teams need a leader like Maguire at the back.Where would you all class our back 5 (De Gea, AWB, Lindelöf, Maguire, Shaw) in comparison with Arsenal and Chelsea's?
Not getting it their own way tonight thoughChelsea just take turns in fouling opposition players.
Could do! Just not sure where that type of player would be coming from; feel personally as though the CB market is pretty poor. The one I'd break the bank for is Gimenez from Atleti - he ticks all the boxes.I think people are blinded by how poor zouma was at the start of the season. He's definitely settled since then though. I feel you need a leader though, much like why we got Maguire. Would transform you.
Yeah, should've capitalized on it. Chelsea will be back in it sooner or later.Felt like Arsenal needed a goal whilst on top.
Yep! Wish we had this ref! It was ridiculous.Not getting it their own way tonight though
But Norwich in defence.It will Chelsea vs United again for the next 5 years. Mason mount, pulisic and kovacic are too good. Those front 2 are Barcelona-esque in ability on the ball.
More Arsenals to win if anything. Just need to keep creating.Arsenal's to lose.
Nothing is better than Giroud's beardPen for me.
Not sure who I want to win this. Chelsea and Arsenal are both utterly meh to me. I like Luiz' hair, but is it better than Giroud's beard?
Triggered!Nonsense. He's been our best CB. 4th best in Europe in aerial duels; absolutely vital given our set piece issues.
Arteta completely schooling FwankMore Arsenals to win if anything. Just need to keep creating.
Better than both. Better than Chelsea’s by a huge amount.
Yeah, I suddenly feel a bit more optimistic about our defence after watching these two, especially Chelsea's defence. It feels like we don't have as much to do as both Arsenal and Chelsea. Still not perfect, but it's closer to where I think it needs to be compared to those two.On this showing much better. Both of these teams need a leader like Maguire at the back.
Oh we're miles ahead of Arsenal, I really wouldn't be worrying about them.Yeah, I suddenly feel a bit more optimistic about our defence after watching these two, especially Chelsea's defence. It feels like we don't have as much to do as both Arsenal and Chelsea. Still not perfect, but it's closer to where I think it needs to be compared to those two.
That's there the big problem if zouma is chelsea's best or even second best defender. He is good in air, I give that. But otherwise very weak in defending.Nonsense. He's been our best CB. 4th best in Europe in aerial duels; absolutely vital given our set piece issues.
Only Liverpool and City conceded less than us. 3 and 1 goal respectively. Our defence is good. Chelsea conceded 54 for our 36.Yeah, I suddenly feel a bit more optimistic about our defence after watching these two, especially Chelsea's defence. It feels like we don't have as much to do as both Arsenal and Chelsea. Still not perfect, but it's closer to where I think it needs to be compared to those two.
Triggered? It's just a silly statement. He's obviously not a championship-level player.Triggered!
He could have been world class had it not been for that injury, i'll give him that
I hope you're right and not the other way round, otherwise AFTV and not chill tonightSo looking forward to a Chelsea last-minute winner, then seeing the live reaction from Arsefam TV.
It's what the internet was created for.
Right down to youth level. My lad's u12s play and train exactly the same way but we do meet teams who just kick and run.Looks like this is going to be the future, play from the back and high defence. Every team seems to be playing this way now.
Think there was also some analysis done where goals conceded is a better predictor of future league success than goals scored.Only Liverpool and City conceded less than us. 3 and 1 goal respectively. Our defence is good. Chelsea conceded 54 for our 36.
Haha, I worry about a lot of things in life. Arsenal isn't of them, though.Oh we're miles ahead of Arsenal, I really wouldn't be worrying about them.
That's mental that they've conceded that many. More than I thought. Thought it would be a lot closer than that.Only Liverpool and City conceded less than us. 3 and 1 goal respectively. Our defence is good. Chelsea conceded 54 for our 36.