BLM has nothing to do with this and its an insult to the movement to suggest it does
Harry Maguire involved in incident with police in Greece - conviction nullified by appeal, full retrial pending
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More like released but potentially could be told to come back if new evidence arrived. Kinda like a blanket clause for everything.
Maybe if there's a bigger fight and someone dies, or some thing maguire did that wasn't made clear (e.g. he actually murders someone in the toilet), or maybe the the cops he assault turns up dead or something.
But he's let off with a slap in the wrist. It's not like someone died. It's a non issue for nobody let alone manchester united captain. Embarassing incident at best.
This forum and the English press will always have English players' back. It's hypocritical and sad but that's just the way it is.
I keep saying this but we got fleeced - 80M for this guy is daylight robbery. He's not even an incredible defender, I would say he's slightly above average. His defenders would say he was better than what we had... as if setting the bar so low for an 80M player is what we do now.
Oh well, they say he's a great leader!
Yea, not sure you can give that one.
ACAB
You wonder what a global movement created to shine a light on the corrupt, illegal and unethical practices by law enforcement officers has to be with the second most corrupt law enforcement organization in the world, that has a well publicized history of beating, blackmailing and systemic mistreatment of foreigners in Greece?
This, after you try and establish a connection between Maguire and British lad culture. Unbelievable.
Explain why. Explain why we should rightly question the ethics of policing in one are, but it's outrageous to question the ethics of the second most corrupt police force in the world, who has a well established history of violence and bribery when it comes to foreigners.
I thought we had one of the best defensive records in the league with Harry maguire at the heart of it I must have dreamt it
There is zero evidence of police wrong doing and plenty of evidence of a group of drunk people getting into a fight and getting arrested.
To compare this to a movement which is all about black and ethnic minority people being unlawfully killed by police is an insult
No evidence Maguire or his mates were assaulted or even harmed by police
That is without mentioning the obvious privilege Maguires status gets him in this situation
In this case it's more surprising given that there is little he's done in his short time here to have built any kind good will with supporters that they would become so defensive.
So you criticise someone else for putting all of one group into a bucket then try to do the same to 'English lad culture' (whatever that means).
Ok.
Show me the evidence of Maguire assaulting a police officer then.
Where did I say he did?
Show the evidence he has been assulted or harmed by police.
I second this.
Testimony is evidence. A lot of the information on corruption is based on testimony.
Seriously. Have you read the xenophobic posts about the English in this thread.
Your comments about the media are laughable.
I did not say "behalf". Anyway, you need to explain the link between Maguire being arrested and BLM.
Imagine inserting BLM as a shield, desperation is real 
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According to some reports some knob in a bitters shirt started goading him if so well done Harry for twatting him pity he couldn’t have floored some dippers for good measure
If you aren't including Maguire in this, then why are you mentioning the evidence of a group of lads getting into a fight and being arrested. Burden of proof is a one way street hey?
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https://www.protothema.gr/greece/article/1037182/alert-eleutheros-afethike-o-magouair/
So according to this, there is a video of the "fight" that started it all.
I can't even see Maguire there. He's wearing a white shirt and blue shorts, definitely not involved in the original fight.
How he became involved after that point I guess we will see. Maguire also has no marks on his face so clearly wasn't punched or bruised in any way... hmmm.
So according to this, there is a video of the "fight" that started it all.
I can't even see Maguire there. He's wearing a white shirt and blue shorts, definitely not involved in the original fight.
How he became involved after that point I guess we will see. Maguire also has no marks on his face so clearly wasn't punched or bruised in any way... hmmm.
And as for posters asking ‘why do people keep mentioning Pogba?’ - I’ve not read much of this thread but can only speak for myself and others I’ve spoken to (not that I’ve been mentioning him in here). I firstly agree that he isn’t captain material and don’t think he should be given the armband, but some (black) folk can only smirk at stories like this - as the ‘off-field antics’ of the likes of Pogba and Sterling are often accused of are barely ‘antics’ at all, and seeing how this plays out and reading many coming to the defence of Maguire’s alleged actions is interesting.
If his sister was stabbed, we'd surely have known about that already?
This is getting strange.
Always a strong argument on the internet. Right after you justify your clear xenophobia.
A group of lads were arrested for being involved in a fight. That is the evidence we have. We have ZERO that relates to him or his friends being harmed by police. Its not hard. Leave BLM out of it
That's not why people hate Rooney but you're right that people react differently depending on how much they like the player.Touchy. The poster mentioned Rooney not Keane so don’t know what that has to do with it. Posters on here have a bizarre hate for Rooney because he questioned how good our shit signings were, they’d be frothing if this happened with him. That’s what I agreed to, not your tangent.
I agree with your point about whiny faux outraged keyboard warriors these days, you actually came across as one but about other posters, Not Maguire
Ah, you're a green smilie at the end of your own comment kinda guy. Nice passive aggressive touch there.
So ZERO evidence pertaining to Maguire then. It's not hard. No thanks, I'll use relatable comparison when and how I like.
I don't condone violence but if my sister was stabbed, am not sure how I am going to react honestly.
People must realise he is only human.
So he wasn't arrested. Right. Ok
Its not relatable again as he was not harmed by police. A movement based on police brutality against ethnic minorities and you are using it to defend Maguire who has not been harmed by the police
My last post on this.
I'm sure United have a jet fueled up and running for him, if he's 'free' then he should get his ass into 14 days of quarantine in Manchester imo.
So the Hellenic police don't have a history of wrongful arrests, bribery and violence. Right. OK.
1) The county court of the Cyclades is in Syros. If you are arrested on any island of the Cyclades and the prosecutor decides, after the preliminary examination, that there are enough grounds to press charges, you have to appear in front of court and accept or deny the charges. The judge will decide if the prosecutor has a case or not. It is the standard procedure and i doubt it's much different elsewhere in the West.
2) If you know of any specific way i can hide my income by simply bribing an RIA official without ending up in jail or commit a crime and walk away by handing in a brown envelope, please, feel free to elaborate. Greece went bankrupt because the entanglement between the politicians and the economic elite reached the level where a handful of prominent families would divide the pie of public investments themselves and the politicians would take the taxpayers' money, then they would go on to borrow even more from the markets and pay up to 10x the price of the free market for any investment. They also keep the people "silent" by turning the private sector into a living hell so that everybody's begging them for a job in the public sector (which has resulted to an over bloated and underachieving public sector). I hope you realize that this generalization of Greece, or the Balkans for that matter, is a sewer full of rats is as rancorous as the claim that all English travellers are brawlers and up to no good after a couple of drinks.
3) The police have been given orders to patrol in civilian clothes and keep an eye open for big parties with a lot of people in small places on all Greek islands. Furthermore, knowing that the British are one of the largest group of tourists who choose Greece for their holiday, they were told to expect an influx of English tourists, especially from Spain, who will want to avoid the 14-days of self-isolation that is required for travellers who fly back to England directly from Spain.
4) We don't know what happened. Let's wait until we have all the facts and we can draw safer conclusions.
I agree that the press are milking this in lack of any other sport stories. Nothing will happen. What he supposedly committed was an infraction and even if the judge decides that the case must go to court, he'll be free to return to England until the day the court convenes. Given the fact that there are numerous delays in Greek courts, there's a good chance the infraction will lapse/expire (don't know the legal term in English) before the case even reaches the courtroom. Even if he's found guilty, he'll walk free on parole (again, i don't know the English legal term) and he'll only have problems if he does the same thing in Greece again. And that's the worst case scenario. What will most likely happen is that they'll all agree that it was all a big misunderstanding, he'll say sorry to anyone he might have hit or verbally abused and the charges will be dropped. End of (a ridiculous) story.
Indeed. If it does come out that his sister getting stabbed started a brawl, I don't think anyone will blame him.
There will be doctor, ambulance or hospital records regarding someone getting stabbed so should all get cleared up soon enough.
He was arrested after the fight happened.
The fight happened, they got separated and then secret police came along and tried to arrest them. How do we even know Maguire was actually involved in the first fight? perhaps he was resisting arrest because they didn't do anything wrong - but the police wouldn't accept that. They could be claiming assault against an officer when all it was is resisting?
Anyway looks like Maguire won't be going to prison so who cares.
Where is the evidence of the violence towards him from the police....
ABH is a non issue now. Nice to see how low the morals are of some people on here. Let’s just go round thumping anyone who we disagree with or don’t like.
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