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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Wibble

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Could we just send the most incompetent politicians to the ISS and then impose 10 year quarantine periods on any returnees?
 

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Brexit has now cost more than the International Space Station
LSE estimates suggest the ongoing cost of Brexit could be two to three times greater than the impact of Covid-19.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/p...al-space-station/17/09/#.X2SCHWQ_BKk.facebook

But, yeah, hooray for taking our country back or whatever the feck it is. We've not even hit the part where this hurts us either, we're just getting started.

Really, really, REALLY pisses me off that Scotland voted against this shite and is getting dragged down as well. Same can be said for a lot of places in the UK. I genuinely wonder how many people who voted for Brexit have died of old age already. Not trying to be a dick but, well...
Indeed. Its good that old people voted to feck young people. And then as a thanks we spent 4 months stuck in our homes to keep them safe. Class.
 

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Indeed. Its good that old people voted to feck young people. And then as a thanks we spent 4 months stuck in our homes to keep them safe. Class.
The Sun's Director of Fashion @Jippy has rightly pointed out that the site is a pile of crap. They're just a right wing think tank. Came up in my Google feed and promptly blocked soon after.

But it's not going to be cheap.
 

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Something I don't quite understand yet: why is one referendum so decisive? To leave the fecking European Union because of one referendum is quite drastic, no?

What if in 20 years time people want another referendum and vote to join the EU again? You can do this every 10 years and the results can vary.

Again, how is 1 referendum so decisive?
 

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Something I don't quite understand yet: why is one referendum so decisive? To leave the fecking European Union because of one referendum is quite drastic, no?

What if in 20 years time people want another referendum and vote to join the EU again? You can do this every 10 years and the results can vary.

Again, how is 1 referendum so decisive?
Its illogical but its because the leavers, enabled by the right wing media, have painted one referendum as being the "will of the people". To question it is "treason".
 

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Something I don't quite understand yet: why is one referendum so decisive? To leave the fecking European Union because of one referendum is quite drastic, no?

What if in 20 years time people want another referendum and vote to join the EU again? You can do this every 10 years and the results can vary.

Again, how is 1 referendum so decisive?
It should have had a super majority too, but you know our country just loves the psycho drama that is brexit.
 

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Something I don't quite understand yet: why is one referendum so decisive? To leave the fecking European Union because of one referendum is quite drastic, no?

What if in 20 years time people want another referendum and vote to join the EU again? You can do this every 10 years and the results can vary.

Again, how is 1 referendum so decisive?
There were actually one referendum and two elections - if the public really wanted to stop Brexit, they were given enough opportunities.
 

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There were actually one referendum and two elections - if the public really wanted to stop Brexit, they were given enough opportunities.
Slightly disingenuous, in 2017 labour were still committed to leaving IIRC and 2019 you could easily argue that the percentage of votes for parties that wanted a second ref was higher than those who wanted to leave but placed across different parties. Tories had the luxury of being the one credible leave party (and the brexit party had made deals and stood down in certain seats too).
 

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Slightly disingenuous, in 2017 labour were still committed to leaving IIRC and 2019 you could easily argue that the percentage of votes for parties that wanted a second ref was higher than those who wanted to leave but placed across different parties. Tories had the luxury of being the one credible leave party (and the brexit party had made deals and stood down in certain seats too).
What about LibDems then? The public had the choice, if they really wanted to stay in the EU.
 

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Something I don't quite understand yet: why is one referendum so decisive? To leave the fecking European Union because of one referendum is quite drastic, no?

What if in 20 years time people want another referendum and vote to join the EU again? You can do this every 10 years and the results can vary.

Again, how is 1 referendum so decisive?
A better question is why was there a referendum at all? Moronic decision by Cameron.
 

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What about LibDems then? The public had the choice, if they really wanted to stay in the EU.
That’s the point isn’t it, the Lib Dem’s in most peoples mind aren’t a credible party. Especially when general elections aren’t ONLY about Brexit. But like I said if you were to add up second ref parties in 2019 it is a bigger vote share than leave, but just across too many different parties. Hence why it is slightly disingenuous to say ‘you had your chance to remain’.

Anyway it really doesn’t matter, it’s happened now you and other brexiteers have to own what happens now with no excuses.
 
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Slightly disingenuous, in 2017 labour were still committed to leaving IIRC and 2019 you could easily argue that the percentage of votes for parties that wanted a second ref was higher than those who wanted to leave but placed across different parties. Tories had the luxury of being the one credible leave party (and the brexit party had made deals and stood down in certain seats too).
Agreed.. The Tories benefited by uniting the leave vote while the remain/second referendum vote was scattered across multiple parties. In our FPTP system this was a massive factor.

Also a general election is rarely decided by a single issue. Although Brexit factors certainly played a key role in 2019.
 

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A better question is why was there a referendum at all? Moronic decision by Cameron.
True. It was to settle Tory infighting.

Leading into that question though is, what had fuelled the rise of the far right both within and external to the Tory party? UKIP etc.

Most of this has been fuelled by right wing media coverage influencing public opinion over a couple of decades.
 

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I wonder if people are starting to understand why borders work the way they do on the continent? And why no one wants them.
 

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Am I right in saying we will be subject to a certain amount of licenses for lorries that will add to the delay?
Yes amongst other things - also most lorries that cross the Channel are not British but if they're going to be stuck in endless queues would they even bother, time is money , they don't want their lorries and drivers stuck in the UK doing nothing.