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[McGrathsipan]

See all the Brexiteers are happy with this approach. Sickening that in a pandemic, we are now going into no deal. Absolute joke of a Government.

Boris is leading you all down a deep dark black hole.

feck me

 

[calodo2003]

But, aren’t y’all off to a strong start with the trade agreements with Mongolia & the Ivory Coast?

 

[Berbasbullet]

But, aren’t y’all off to a strong start with the trade agreements with Mongolia & the Ivory Coast?

Those beautiful beautiful continuation agreements keep on coming baby!

 

[711]

But, aren’t y’all off to a strong start with the trade agreements with Mongolia & the Ivory Coast?

Yeah, the number of completed trade agreements doubles every fortnight. That's exponential growth! Woohoo.

 

[calodo2003]

Yeah, the number of completed trade agreements doubles every fortnight. That's exponential growth! Woohoo.

Statistics are what one makes of them. Exponential growth is nothing but a positive. Y’all sure love your winning as much as we do!

 

[C3Pique]

In any other country this would end up with certain people strung from lamposts by their ankles.

 

[Fingeredmouse]

You'd hope after more than a decade of making the country far worse people would wake up and see that they are a cancer. Unfortunately, the Conservatives are like cockroaches and survive all manner of scandals and controversies.

I no longer have that hope.

 

[Fluctuation0161]

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Oven ready.

They've been working towards no deal for a long time.

 

[Fluctuation0161]

You'd hope after more than a decade of making the country far worse people would wake up and see that they are a cancer. Unfortunately, the Conservatives are like cockroaches and survive all manner of scandals and controversies.

Yep. Billionaire owned media backs them. Idiots are heavily influenced by media coverage.

 

[MikeUpNorth]

Somehow, I doubt we've heard the last of these negotiations... call me insane, but I'm still putting a deal as slightly more likely than no deal.

 

[RedSky]

Somehow, I doubt we've heard the last of these negotiations... call me insane, but I'm still putting a deal as slightly more likely than no deal.

It'll be no deal. This is what Boris wanted from day 1 personally and wouldn't be shocked if he and his mates make a fortune from it. I'm very cynicial when it comes to these arseholes.

 

[F-Red]

Somehow, I doubt we've heard the last of these negotiations... call me insane, but I'm still putting a deal as slightly more likely than no deal.

I have an inkling of that also, the language used in the press conference felt it was more a shot across the bows. He said he wasn't walking away, but inviting them to come to the table if they're wanting to change approach.

Whilst I think Johnson & the tories are capable of going through with a clusterfu*k of a no deal (par for the course with him), if he was truly serious of no deal now he wouldn't be inviting anyone for last ditch talks.

 

[Jippy]

Can a Brexiteer explain to me what incentive there would be for a manufacturer to remain in the UK in the event of no deal?

I'm not a Brexiter but it depends who you're talking about obviously. Car plants will be gone, but the pie factories in Melton Mowbray will presumably stay.

 

[Jippy]

I have an inkling of that also, the language used in the press conference felt it was more a shot across the bows. He said he wasn't walking away, but inviting them to come to the table if they're wanting to change approach.

Whilst I think Johnson & the tories are capable of going through with a clusterfu*k of a no deal (par for the course with him), if he was truly serious of no deal now he wouldn't be inviting anyone for last ditch talks.

You'd just have to be such a colossal fecking idiot to think we can muddle through a no deal scenario in the worst economic downturn ever recorded. My hopes for commonsense to at some point prevail keep getting dashed to smithereens though.

 

[F-Red]

You'd just have to be such a colossal fecking idiot to think we can muddle through a no deal scenario in the worst economic downturn ever recorded. My hopes for commonsense to at some point prevail keep getting dashed to smithereens though.

The Brexit impact on the economy will make covid's downturn feel like a walk in the park.

 

[TheGame]

The Brexiteers seem to be celebrating this move by their Saint Boris, how pathetic.

 

[Jippy]

The Brexit impact on the economy will make covid's downturn feel like a walk in the park.

My principal employer, whose revenue is highly correlated to the health of the financial services industry, has already had to raise cash once this year cos of Covid, so feck knows what will Brexit will do...

 

[TheGame]

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[Smores]

What tune are brexiteers signing to today then?

This is the issue i have with those who claim we need to have reasonable debate with those who vote differently to us. These people don't hold any view in good faith it just changes with the wind.

I don't know what the answer is to bring these people round but it isn't to move their direction.

 

[calodo2003]

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And horseshit like that was readily consumed & believed by the brexiteers back then? That’s criminal.

 

[Drifter]

So no deal it is then, Exactly what Boris was aiming at in the first place.

 

[Brwned]

And horseshit like that was readily consumed & believed by the brexiteers back then? That’s criminal.

I think most people that voted for it didn't care about it. It was about "taking back our borders" and "regaining out sovereignty" and all sorts of other bullshit. They wanted away from big bureaucracy, wanted to relive the British dream of being a powerful independent nation that just gets what it wants, when it wants it, and who cares about all that free trade nonsense, I'm just selling to the folks in my community, not them bloody Europeans.

That doesn't apply to everyone, but quite a lot. And once you commit to the idea of such a major change based on ideological reasons, you don't need to look too deeply into the facts, you just like hearing the people on your side say good things about the decision you've made.

At the end of the day the UK and the EU were intertwined in so many different ways that unless you were fully invested in the details, you wouldn't be able to fathom all of the negative impacts, and "the nation is tired of experts", so just leave that to the politicians. And when things don't work out, just stick with the EU as the bogeyman. The only thing that might start to become clear to a lot of the Brexiteers at this point is how much weaker the UK is in comparison to the EU now. It's hard to avoid that recognition. Presumably they'll just try and convince them that a "clean break" was in everyone's best interests now.

Then there's the rich Brexiteers who made money in the financial markets, so they'll take the long term hit as they've ran away with their bags of money.

The whole thing is a shambles over and over again.

 

[calodo2003]

I think most people that voted for it didn't care about it. It was about "taking back our borders" and "regaining out sovereignty" and all sorts of other bullshit. They wanted away from big bureaucracy, wanted to relive the British dream of being a powerful independent nation that just gets what it wants, when it wants it, and who cares about all that free trade nonsense, I'm just selling to the folks in my community, not them bloody Europeans.

That doesn't apply to everyone, but quite a lot. And once you commit to the idea of such a major change based on ideological reasons, you don't need to look too deeply into the facts, you just like hearing the people on your side say good things about the decision you've made.

At the end of the day the UK and the EU were intertwined in so many different ways that unless you were fully invested in the details, you wouldn't be able to fathom all of the negative impacts, and "the nation is tired of experts", so just leave that to the politicians. And when things don't work out, just stick with the EU as the bogeyman. The only thing that might start to become clear at this point is how much weaker the UK is in comparison to the EU now. It's hard to avoid that recognition.

Then there's the rich Brexiteers who made money in the financial markets, so they'll take the long term hit as they've ran away with their bags of money.

The whole thing is a shambles over and over again.

Jesus, what a fecking abortion.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

In any other country this would end up with certain people strung from lamposts by their ankles.

That's for next year when finally it dawns on the Brexiters that they've a slight error of judgement. An angry horde chasing Farage , Johnson and Gove through the streets would make great reality TV.

 

[TheGame]

That's for next year when finally it dawns on the Brexiters that they've a slight error of judgement. An angry horde chasing Farage , Johnson and Gove through the streets would make great reality TV.

Nah they’ll blame someone else as always.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Nah they’ll blame someone else as always.

Yes but they've got away with the lies for so many years, eventually it will catch up with them, even the most thick Brexiteer will work it out in the end, even if they don't admit it.

 

[Fluctuation0161]

Nah they’ll blame someone else as always.

Agreed.

 

[Buster15]

Nah they’ll blame someone else as always.

Of course they will. And it will be all down to the EU not giving the UK a trade deal. Nasty EU.
And good old Boris did his best.
And he delivered on the wishes of the people and stood up to that nasty Barnier.
Good old Boris...

 

[Buster15]

That's for next year when finally it dawns on the Brexiters that they've a slight error of judgement. An angry horde chasing Farage , Johnson and Gove through the streets would make great reality TV.

What the hell is an Australian style deal. Where did that come from.
Up to now it was supposed to be a Canada style deal...

 

[Paul the Wolf]

What the hell is an Australian style deal. Where did that come from.
Up to now it was supposed to be a Canada style deal...

Australian type deal means no deal , but Johnson decided to try to fool everyone again.

Canadian style deal is just a FTA which is not really suitable either for dealing with a trading bloc on your doorstep.

Either way the UK is in trouble, it is leaving the Custom Union that is going to be the real problem which is happening with or without a deal. Having a FTA will slightly soften the blow.

Maybe I'm giving the government too much intellectual credit but maybe they realised the UK is in trouble either way so why not go for an all out no deal

 

[TheGame]

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[TheGame]

Yes but they've got away with the lies for so many years, eventually it will catch up with them, even the most thick Brexiteer will work it out in the end, even if they don't admit it.

Let’s hope they all turn on each other.

 

[Buster15]

Australian type deal means no deal , but Johnson decided to try to fool everyone again.

Canadian style deal is just a FTA which is not really suitable either for dealing with a trading bloc on your doorstep.

Either way the UK is in trouble, it is leaving the Custom Union that is going to be the real problem which is happening with or without a deal. Having a FTA will slightly soften the blow.

Maybe I'm giving the government too much intellectual credit but maybe they realised the UK is in trouble either way so why not go for an all out no deal

Thanks for that.
But describing a WTO no deal as an Austrialian type deal is inaccurate because while Australia is negotiating a trade deal with the the EU, it already has certain arrangements with the EU that the UK would not have.
It is a philosophical argument I accept.
But another example of Boris not being truthful if I can put it that way.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Thanks for that.
But describing a WTO no deal as an Austrialian type deal is inaccurate because while Australia is negotiating a trade deal with the the EU, it already has certain arrangements with the EU that the UK would not have.
It is a philosophical argument I accept.
But another example of Boris not being truthful if I can put it that way.

Brexit has been a lie from start to finish, don't think Brexiters can afford to start telling the truth. The lies will just unravel one by one.
Unfortunately the only way the UK will face up to reality is when it hits them full on next year but a big price will have been paid.

 

[caid]

Brexit has been a lie from start to finish, don't think Brexiters can afford to start telling the truth. The lies will just unravel one by one.
Unfortunately the only way the UK will face up to reality is when it hits them full on next year but a big price will have been paid.

They can blame problems on the pandemic then. Or just stick to blaming the EU. Or knife Boris in the back. There'll never be a day of reckoning

 

[devilish]

I hope that the EU will insist that the UK enjoys the 'Australian' deal for a long long time. At least up until the Tory party is destroyed and Starmer is in government.

 

[golden_blunder]

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I read those in a trump voice

 

[horsechoker]

I hope that the EU will insist that the UK enjoys the 'Australian' deal for a long long time. At least up until the Tory party is destroyed and Starmer is in government.

If Starmer reached a trade deal with the EU, the Right-Wing media would say that he's selling the country down the river, we've become slaves to the EU, floodgates are open for politically correct paedophile immigrants etc.

 

[Adisa]

We all knew this was where all roads leads to. How the Tires have sold this as a victory is outstanding..

 

[devilish]

If Starmer reached a trade deal with the EU, the Right-Wing media would say that he's selling the country down the river, we've become slaves to the EU, floodgates are open for politically correct paedophile immigrants etc.

The economy should tank big time by that time especially if the EU decides to be uncoperative. There is a risk of UK based airlines not being able to land in the EU, food shortages etc.

The EU has only have to wait up until the country goes into flames. The Tories won't be there for long after that. Then adults will be voted in and voila a deal will be made