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Murder on Zidane's Floor

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Pogba is unfortunately, done.

Penalty aside, he is nowhere near a top class or world class player. People will reference a world cup win. Please bear in mind Giroud also won the WC.

Ffs some people love the idea of Pogba and are keeping their head in the sand to the actual reality.

He is so far away from being an elite player it is embarrassing. Never seen a top player lose the ball as much, underhit, overhit passes, make the wrong decision and not affect a game. If he was Paul Porter from Wigan he'd be playing in League 2.

Joker and a bluffer.
 

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Starting to despise him as a player. 1/10 games he turns it on, the rest he holds the team back.
 

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Yep. For all the 'I don't understand why vdB doesn't play over Pogba?' people:

Again, Pogba was a Woodward signing. Ole has to factor that in. After that, there might be bit of 'maybe I can get him to come good; it worked with Marcus' from Ole.



Double yep. And again, it's Pogba's contract, not Sanchez' that was 'worst in our history'. Pogba's contract was the one that reaaaallly cemented it to the footballing world that the clueless money-men were running the show and that we were there for the taking. And at the same time it placed an extension of Woodward's mentality/philosophy in the 'alpha' role in the playing squad.

Pogba is not an alpha/winner, although he very much wants to pretend to be one (like Woodward) Don't point to 'but derp derp world cup speech derp' etc. That's not the way it works. BTW that doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad character.
Do you have any actual evidence that he is a "Woodward signing"?

Evidence, not some stupidity like "Well, he's a big name player that was with us, and Woody wanted to get the fans onside" type BS...
 

Hugh Jass

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Drop him Ole. For your own sake drop him, although i think it may be too late, as in Ole will be sacked soon.
 

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What I don’t understand about Pogba it’s that he’s not even good at attacking!

He is an absolute liability defensively and you have to have two players literally babysit him if he plays. Can’t make a tackle without fouling. Work rate non-existent.

Yet you could maybe, MAYBE argue a case for his inclusion if he was getting 25 goal contributions a season but his numbers are poor.

Liability defensively. Liability on the ball. Doesn’t move the ball quickly enough. Invites pressure. Needs babysitting. Doesn’t score, doesn’t assist. Yet every week the entire team is bent out of shape to accommodate him
 

RedNed77

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Trying to hard and is seriously looking ridiculous!

marginally better than Bruno, Fred and Mctominay before giving away that penalty.

having an absolute shocking season so far and will probably push for that “dream” Madrid.
Not sure what game you were watching, he was comfortably the worst out of the midfield. And given the performances the rest of them put in it was a very low bar.
 

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I don't care what those articles say. We were losing and Pogba was playing horrible (and not just for giving away a penalty) and he took off Bruno?? Makes absolutely no sense...
Ole wanted to have Pogba as the talisman of his rebuild. It was obvious he would sub Bruno before Pogba. If you want to have Bruno being chosen over Pogba, we might need a new manager in that case.
 

12OunceEpilogue

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Starting to despise him as a player. 1/10 games he turns it on, the rest he holds the team back.
So am I to be honest. We need to keep in mind that was a dreadful team performance, but we look better when we don't start Pogba and seriously what the fecking hell was that for the penalty? Let your man go then slide on in there and get nowhere near the ball? Schoolboy shite unbefitting of a player of his talent. I want rid as soon as possible.
 

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Ole wanted to have Pogba as the talisman of his rebuild. It was obvious he would sub Bruno before Pogba. If you want to have Bruno being chosen over Pogba, we might need a new manager in that case.
Wasnt Pogba on the bench and Bruno starting only a week or so ago?
 

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How many penalties has he conceded now? I can remember 3 off the top of my head, but it feels like more. He's just so clumsy in defensive positions.

He's got bags of talent, but he hasn't found a way to put it into practice consistently, particularly in big games when pressure is on, which renders his talent fairly useless.
 

Ace of Spades

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His inconsistent performances are so annoying, sometimes can be great, other times can be awful.
 

Djemba-Djemba

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He played really bad but then again so did most, he didn’t play any worse than half the team. Lindelof and De Gea are the only one that had a reasonable performance.
He gave away his 3rd pen in his last 4 league starts at OT.

He's an absolute joke.
 

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But still a thousand time more likely to give us a decisive moment in the game.
And be more disciplined in getting the ball back for us too
And is much more a leader as well

Take away the discipline issue of pogba in giving the penalty away, its the same as it was against spurs, where was he?

Given a free role pretty much whole afternoon and was terrible
 

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At this point, I hope the club sells him at the first decent offer that comes in. He isnt what United need in the midfield at all.
 

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What I don’t understand about Pogba it’s that he’s not even good at attacking!

He is an absolute liability defensively and you have to have two players literally babysit him if he plays. Can’t make a tackle without fouling. Work rate non-existent.

Yet you could maybe, MAYBE argue a case for his inclusion if he was getting 25 goal contributions a season but his numbers are poor.

Liability defensively. Liability on the ball. Doesn’t move the ball quickly enough. Invites pressure. Needs babysitting. Doesn’t score, doesn’t assist. Yet every week the entire team is bent out of shape to accommodate him
And another formation where he cannot play in. We must have tried every formation known to football to try and accomodate him and he still is very poor. He is just not good enough.

I said it two months ago. You could play Kevin DeBruyne in a number of positions and he always delivers. Even Baldiola played him as a false 9 last year and he got an assist against us. No matter what position we play Pogba in, he is generally poor unless we are winning three nil.

I even had my suspicions today. I said we would struggle and it was mainly because Pogba was starting.

We can see it with Dan James and it is the same with Paul Pogba. He is just not good enough.

Surely Ole can see this, although I suspect Woodward is pulling his ear behind the scenes.
 

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Poor in every aspect today and unfortunately so were the rest of our midfiders.
 

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Poor once again. These performances are more the norm than his good ones. Time to go if anyone wants him.
 

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Wasnt Pogba on the bench and Bruno starting only a week or so ago?
When push comes to shove, Ole picks Pogba as he thinks Pogba is more likely to bring back a win.
Last week when we needed a goal against Chelsea, he brought Pogba in.
This week when we needed 2 goals at least, he keeps Pogba instead of Bruno.
That shows the trust Ole puts on Pogba, at least in the Premier League.
 

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When push comes to shove, Ole picks Pogba as he thinks Pogba is more likely to bring back a win.
Last week when we needed a goal against Chelsea, he brought Pogba in.
This week when we needed 2 goals at least, he keeps Pogba instead of Bruno.
That shows the trust Ole puts on Pogba, at least in the Premier League.
So Ole leaves Pogba on the bench and starts Bruno. But he trusts Pogba more because he subbed him on?
 

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He gave away his 3rd pen in his last 4 league starts at OT.

He's an absolute joke.
Wasn’t that pen almost a carbon copy of one of the others too, caught wrong side and fouls trying to get back in?

I think we fell into the trap of trying to shoehorn him in the side again. It’s either Bruno or Pogba. It’s time for him to leave I think, for his own sake too. He just isn’t the guy for us to be trying to build round or accommodate. Maybe in a dominant team like Juve or Bayern he could be a champagne player but we‘re in too many battles in the league.
 

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Pogba is unfortunately, done.

Penalty aside, he is nowhere near a top class or world class player. People will reference a world cup win. Please bear in mind Giroud also won the WC.

Ffs some people love the idea of Pogba and are keeping their head in the sand to the actual reality.

He is so far away from being an elite player it is embarrassing. Never seen a top player lose the ball as much, underhit, overhit passes, make the wrong decision and not affect a game. If he was Paul Porter from Wigan he'd be playing in League 2.

Joker and a bluffer.
This.
 

Murder on Zidane's Floor

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We could not get the ball to bruno, especially in the first half.
His delivery was also horrific. No idea how we cannot put a ball into the box......oh I know why, Luke Shaw is over the ball.

Why the hell is Bruno or Pogba not able to whip a ball in?
 

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What I don’t understand about Pogba it’s that he’s not even good at attacking!

He is an absolute liability defensively and you have to have two players literally babysit him if he plays. Can’t make a tackle without fouling. Work rate non-existent.

Yet you could maybe, MAYBE argue a case for his inclusion if he was getting 25 goal contributions a season but his numbers are poor.

Liability defensively. Liability on the ball. Doesn’t move the ball quickly enough. Invites pressure. Needs babysitting. Doesn’t score, doesn’t assist. Yet every week the entire team is bent out of shape to accommodate him
This comment right here is everything. He has set us back a few years. We should just move him on for grealish or someone similar.

Starting from today I cant ever support him again. He plays for himself and doesnt think.
 

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He gave away his 3rd pen in his last 4 league starts at OT.

He's an absolute joke.
:lol:

What an absaloute joke, seriously.

Ole cant manage him i.e. he hasn't been brave enough to treat him the way that Arteta has treated Ozil. Dropped from the squad entirely, preferably sold, 40m would be a good fee for him at this stage.

That's the difference with Arteta and Ole, Arteta has sent out a statement his squad and is now reaping the benefits.
 

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If Real or PSG are willing to pay the big bucks, we should get rid. He is supposed to be our star player, but is far too inconsistent.
It’s sad, but he would probably be worth more to the club if we sold.
 

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People talk about him not being “elite” or “world class”...I mean he’s barely “acceptable“ or “mediocre” a large percentage of games.

I don’t doubt he’s talented but he’s just about the worst ‘great’ player I’ve ever seen. Take away the hype, fees, billboards etc and you’re left with a player who is barely a footnote in our history, at least in a positive sense. A total flop IMO.
 

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And be more disciplined in getting the ball back for us too
And is much more a leader as well

Take away the discipline issue of pogba in giving the penalty away, its the same as it was against spurs, where was he?

Given a free role pretty much whole afternoon and was terrible
Indeed. If both play badly, I would always want Bruno playing. He actually isn't hurting us in our box
 
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