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At least we have a chance to knock out FC Mourinho from the Europa league...
We usually lose to them at home, it is away we usually get a win.City next at home
mental gymnastics here manWe lost, so Ole is responsible.
However imo the tactic and plan was right. It's logical to sit back and counter this match. But to do that, we must defend well first. Our defenders should be ashamed of themselves today. Truth is their three goals were very simple and very very easy. Exactly like the Sevilla match last season. Our defenders and keeper were like they simply didn't exist.
Ive got no problem with 3-5-2 but there was no outlet in midfield. It should have been DVB or Pogba alongside Matic for me. Move it quicker and give them something to think about but we surrendered the 1st half to them quite easily with the way we set up.I thought we would do 352 but with VDB who can pass and move.
Thought they were fine.Those cameos from Fosu Mensah and Williams
Honestly it was like two competition winners out there.
Can we not just be out of europe like the good old days?Tired of europa league, can not be bothered.
Just tired of getting hopes up, trying to stay positive. Tired
People will blame Ole. I blame him less for trusting his diabolically naive (at best; at worst stupid) back line collective football IQ.Need to watch that first 25 mins again as I still have no idea why it all happened. Was it a tactical cock up by Ole or did our players just royally fcuk it up? I remember seeing many occasions where our 3 cbs were just marking space with only 1 Leipzig defender on our D. With 7 defensive players, how do Leipzig fullbacks get so much space they can directly pass to each other???
small note to Pogba who I thought have a brilliant cameo.
Looked like the players had no idea how to play the formation, probably because we haven’t played it in a while.Need to watch that first 25 mins again as I still have no idea why it all happened. Was it a tactical cock up by Ole or did our players just royally fcuk it up? I remember seeing many occasions where our 3 cbs were just marking space with only 1 Leipzig defender on our D. With 7 defensive players, how do Leipzig fullbacks get so much space they can directly pass to each other???
small note to Pogba who I thought have a brilliant cameo.
That was what I was getting atWe usually lose to them at home, it is away we usually get a win.
One of the most confusing things which I saw todayWhy on earth did we throw fecking TFM and Tuanzebe in? Absolutely bizzare, at least use Ighalo or someone like that.
No it is on AWB. If you're playing to mirror Angelino as your opposite Wing-Back then LOOK. Don't just follow the line like a robot.But I’m not arguing that Wan Bissaka wasn’t bad. I’m arguing that regardless of how bad he was, the rest of the team were terrible too. It wasn’t Wan Bissaka’s fault nobody was defending the far post for their second. It wasn’t his fault that when somebody got past him that none of our three centre backs, other full back or two defensive midfielders bothered to pick up the guy unmarked on the penalty spot. Or that we didn’t set up to play football or give our forwards any chance of getting the ball.
Ha haDeserved to lose but all credit to the team for turning up in the last 20 minutes.
TFM had a nightmare and Williams was better but looked all sea on the left again. No idea why anyone thought he could play there. He's got no left foot and constantly gets himself into trouble.Thought they were fine.
It was £130m of Maguire and AWB that looked like the competition winners.
No mate, I think we will play full strengh in Europa as always. I am gutted we are playing it...Blessing in disguise , concentrate on the premier league.
Leipzig cost about 20 quid to put together, they were without their 2 best players and we recently thumped them 5-0 so what does Ole do? Plays a back 7 instead of playing our own game. Another defeat that's on him.You are surprised? Try ask them what how much they believed in us going through when the groups first came out... Last years two CL-finalists... NOBODY here would have given us a chance in hell.. and now we almost make it, and they act like its the end of the fecking world. Pathetic.
We have poor match intelligence. Simple. TWe lost, so Ole is responsible.
However imo the tactic and plan was right. It's logical to sit back and counter this match. But to do that, we must defend well first. Our defenders should be ashamed of themselves today. Truth is their three goals were very simple and very very easy. Exactly like the Sevilla match last season. Our defenders and keeper were like they simply didn't exist.
It was weird to say the least as it kept on happening. Angelino with acres of spaceNeed to watch that first 25 mins again as I still have no idea why it all happened. Was it a tactical cock up by Ole or did our players just royally fcuk it up? I remember seeing many occasions where our 3 cbs were just marking space with only 1 Leipzig defender on our D. With 7 defensive players, how do Leipzig fullbacks get so much space they can directly pass to each other???
small note to Pogba who I thought have a brilliant cameo.
I didn't hear them defend Maguire? Scholesy just slammed Maguire for his lack of leadership so I don't know why you think there's some anti-English prejudice.Hahahaha ofcourse Rio and Scholes blame De Gea and defend slowest and most overrated defender in the history of PL. Good to be English!
So we will lose this Saturday?That was what I was getting at
Yes, he defended shite and the first goal was definitely all on him. Not the second or the fact we couldn’t leave our half for the first 20 minutes.No it is on AWB. If you're playing to mirror Angelino as your opposite Wing-Back then LOOK. Don't just follow the line like a robot.
Angelino was simply far more better at reading the play and AWB was clueless for large parts of the game. Shocking.
mental gymnastics here man
Pogba? VDB? No, just ignore those and go straight to TFM? Ok. Selective to fit your agenda but fine, let’s talk TFM.Yep TFM, amazing stuff.
The 3rd is squarely on Maguire. CLEAR IT>Of course.
He turns it on and off when he wants to, and when he is in the shop window.He played well, but we still fell short. I'd rather we sent out the message that we're moved on already. Annoying that he is puts in decent performances like this when he has a point to prove, but can't be bothered otherwise.
I can't fault the manager for the formation, 3 at the back was a sensible thing to do, and it's ironic that it's the sloppy defense that ended up costing us.
I have no interest whatsoever in watching us play in the Europa.
I agree completely, but I just think we so easily see our faults, but sometimes forget that it was actually impressive for us to do so well in this group. And it was not today or last game vs PSG we lost this group. We lost it by losing to the awful Turkey team.We had qualification in our hands in three games pretty much and blew all three. It’s a disaster not getting out of that group once we had such a strong position. Yeah before the CL kicked off it looked doubtful but come on, this fecking hurts.
No doubt.Watch Jose give us a tonking again, or god help us Arteta give a coaching masterclass.
I agreed with TFM sub. AWB was poor today.Pogba? VDB? No, just ignore those and go straight to TFM? Ok. Selective to fit your agenda but fine, let’s talk TFM.
Legs at the back along with height should we get a set piece maybe?
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