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Cavani gets 3 match ban from FA for his social media post
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It's difficult because the intention of the rules brought in are obviously there to act against incidents of racism and hate, which I think we all know this wasn't intended to be in anyway. However, given the phrase he used (even taking the context in to account) I'm not sure we could have any complaints if he receives a ban.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55347164
Personally I think this is ridiculous. Goodness knows why it’s taken so long for the FA to do this.
fully expect a 3 match ban. The world has gone nuts, everyone sees the negative connotation first. People are so quick to jump to conclusions, as per the thread when he posted this.
I don’t think it’s a ‘FA against United’ conspiracy. But do we really need investigations into this sort of thing generally?
Personally I think this is ridiculous. Goodness knows why it’s taken so long for the FA to do this.
fully expect a 3 match ban. The world has gone nuts, everyone sees the negative connotation first. People are so quick to jump to conclusions, as per the thread when he posted this.
I don’t think it’s a ‘FA against United’ conspiracy. But do we really need investigations into this sort of thing generally?
Isn't the minimum ban for a charge of this nature three games nowadays?
Don't think it will. Anyone who thinks this has racial implications need to take a long hard look at themselves. Absolute joke from the FA.
He said a word that in some contexts means “little black”
After the year we’ve had regarding race relations anything remotely close to a racial slur, particularly a racial slur against black people, is going to be punished.
The FA have been pushing for equality & heavily featuring the BLM campaign (for PR of course, they don’t actually care) they weren’t going to turn a blind eye to this & risk the negative PR.
Everyone knows he clearly wasn’t being racist, but he was always going to be punished.
After the year we’ve had regarding race relations anything remotely close to a racial slur, particularly a racial slur against black people, is going to be punished.
The FA have been pushing for equality & heavily featuring the BLM campaign (for PR of course, they don’t actually care) they weren’t going to turn a blind eye to this & risk the negative PR.
Everyone knows he clearly wasn’t being racist, but he was always going to be punished.
Which is what I think might happen.
Either that or we just accept the charge after the Leicester game and he can then miss two home games vs. Wolves and Villa and the FA Cup game.
He's in for the 3 games then
I think that the FA want to set a precedence that this verbiage is not allowed and the best way to do it is ban anyone who uses is rather than deal with grey areas in which someone might argue that they're using it without malicious intent i.e. it's used as a friendly term.
It might seem harsh but it's probably meant to be punitive.
It might seem harsh but it's probably meant to be punitive.
He used a word that has no English meaning but looks like a taboo word.
Thats all it is
There's already a thread on this:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/cavani-charged-by-fa-for-his-social-media-post.459616/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/cavani-charged-by-fa-for-his-social-media-post.459616/
Does anyone in the world, outside of the English FA, think this was racist? Literally. Is there anyone?
Yeah it's improper rather than anything overtly racist. Our players need to learn that content they put on social media isn't private and they have to moderate their language as if they were doing a TV interview.
I can only assume those that think this is fine would be happy for him to repeat the same thing on air or down a camera during a goal celebration.
That timing would be sensible,
In this case the club and Cavani should take it on the chin and move on.
Unless we have a successful appeal, yes. I really don't think we will appeal though. We will time our response of accept decision & he will be banned from that point. All about games management this.
They've not said it's racist.
Whatever you think about whether he should be charged or not, I cannot help but feel they almost waited for him to be fit, so he can serve a punishment.
A week or two early and then it would have been academic because he was injured. Absolutely pathetic from the FA.
A week or two early and then it would have been academic because he was injured. Absolutely pathetic from the FA.
Well the word be used sounds similar to “negro” which, yes, is why he was punished.
He got unlucky, but they were never not going to punish him. All it takes is a few people to say “so you say you’re for equality but you let this slide” & all their great PR work on race equality goes out the window.
Do the FA give a shit? No. They don’t care about racism either, they just don’t want the negative coverage, so they are handling it the way they think they should for the best PR.
it’s a problem linking this to other events. Too many people are offended, that someone else might be offended. Even if no one of offended. That’s the default position.
A lot are actually offended that the English are governing their native tongue
thanks. Didn’t see that. Hopefully someone can combine the two.
They are just bringing negative PR upon themselves. Nobody would have cared if they just dropped it. It's things like this that ruin their good PR work on equality.
The word he used was 'negro' which means black in Spanish. I think the problem is that it sounds similar to the n word. In Spanish, people regularly refer to their friends as 'the white one'/'black one' and while it sounds awkward in English, it's somewhat innocuous for the most part in Spanish.
That said, the FA felt that they had to act and stamp out this term given the Suarez incident in the past and it's reccurance in an effort to oviate similar incidents in the future.
Cant we just accept the ban now? So he'll be out for today, leeds game and league cup.
Just because a foreign word sounds like an English word doesn't mean anything
So are the FA going to go through ever foreign language and ban anything that sounds like a rude word?
Christian Fuch's better not play anymore as his name sounds like f*ck!
Context is the important thing here, any sensible person can see that. IF Cavani had used it in a racially abusive way then fine throw the book at him, but he's just replying to his friend who congratulated him - the FA have no right to say this is a racial issue.
Yep, we can. Have until the 4th to respond so can at any time.
Apart from being the literal Spanish word for black, sounding like an offensive word in a different language doesnt mean anything otherwise id be too scared to ask for a babygrow in a shop
Well said close thread!
Can he play tonight then we accept? (Not that we should)
Typical bullshit from the FA. It reminds me of the time they brought in Portuguese lip-readers in order to find something to pin on Jose.
Man converses in native tongue.
Non speaker uses Google translate to get offended.
Man converses in native tongue.
Non speaker uses Google translate to get offended.
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As they should be.
@sammsky1 is delighted!
Really doesn't make any difference if the guy is Caucasian. You cannot use language that people will feel is racist no matter who you are talking too.
This is an unfortunate incident I don't believe there was anything racist intended I don't think too many do if any.
However I can see how it could be judged to be offensive to some in our society.
It makes no difference that it may be ok in South America he is playing and living here and that's what counts.
I expect he will get at most 3 games we just have to accept it
Yes imagine it happening the other way around? It's just the most bizarre thing. The FA have surely shot themselves in the foot and have been ignorant and actually causing racism by choosing to charge him.
I'm on the fence about him being punished. I think he should but only with a warning as the infraction wasn't intended derogatively towards the other interlocuter. Therefore a ban would be quite unjust, especially if you're asking the question: was Cavani being a big racist bastard? IMO, no.
However, I suspect the FA will want to put their foot down so outcome don't look good.
However, I suspect the FA will want to put their foot down so outcome don't look good.
Probably won't appeal, the world we live in these days the club would be called racist for appealing this type of charge. Pathetic.
This is just basically saying that you can't speak in other languages over here if it remotely sounds like a racist word. A pathetic concept that we should in no way accept.
Certainly can’t be any worse. How long was he suspended for?
Only by the ignorant. We cannot stand by and allow this to unfold... in cases like this even if it does short term damage you should do it. But with Manchester United being a global brand, I doubt they'll want to take the risk... they should though and it would be great if they did.