That’s life in a nutshell!
Chelsea appoint Thomas Tuchel
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That’s life in a nutshell!
Average manager, managed In a piss poor league with neymar and mbappe and still got booted out.
really couldn’t care less that he’s at a rival.
really couldn’t care less that he’s at a rival.
Neymar and Mbappe couldn't do anything about it. Tuchel and PSG didn't agree on a renewal
Strange signing, considering how often Roman clashes with managers about finances, precisely.
A combination of both, but his death sentence was his public clashing with Leonardo, so when the performances started to dip, it was the green light to sack him. I think he has some brilliance to him, but I'm not sure he has the personality to generate lasting success. He is difficult to work with according to multiple sources between Dortmund and PSG.
I hope he does well the second part of the season so he's granted funds in the summer and then fecks up Chelsea's next season as well. Besides obviously Mbappe, who was a no brainer, and Keylor Navas his other signings have been nothing short of average.
Icardi, Leandro Paredes, Kehrer, Diallo, Gueye, Sarabia, Danilo Pereira, Ander Herrera, etc
I don't know if it was PSG's fault or his but I hope he continues with that kind of signings.
Icardi, Leandro Paredes, Kehrer, Diallo, Gueye, Sarabia, Danilo Pereira, Ander Herrera, etc
I don't know if it was PSG's fault or his but I hope he continues with that kind of signings.
A trained monkey could win the French league with PSG. The club has so many billions that none of the other clubs can buy players who are just about as good as PSGs.
In Dortmund he won the DFB Cup, but otherwise nothing. I think it can be difficult for him in the Premier League where there are several rich clubs. The competition is insane and there is no monopoly on the championship as in the French league.
In Dortmund he won the DFB Cup, but otherwise nothing. I think it can be difficult for him in the Premier League where there are several rich clubs. The competition is insane and there is no monopoly on the championship as in the French league.
Sounds a bit like Conte in that aspect, so perhaps we can expect a whirlwind first 12-18 months followed by a spectacularly dramatic decline and we'll be here in about 2 years to discuss how Nagelsmann or Pep will do at Chelsea.
Ba doesn't say what he said, it's only implied and that's probably why this was never a story. There's nothing to quote. But Ba is pretty clear that he said something unacceptable, perhaps not directly racist but probably either defending racist behaviour or blaming black victims of racism for their abuse somehow
Just his word of course, but Ba seems quite sure about what happened and it's not good
Pretty sure the essence of the clash between Tuchel and PSG's board was down to the fact that Tuchel had minimal input into transfers and he disagreed with their targets.
It’s not like people to overrate new Chelsea signings...
Sky suggesting it'll only be an 18 month contract
He'll be expected to get top 4 I think, not sure he'd be sacked, but he's be under massive pressure going into the following season if they don't get CL.
So did Wise he will fit right in.
Looks like an 18 month deal with an additional year that can be triggered by either party. Apparently Tuchel didn't want to overcommit to something long term either.
Match made in heaven then.
I know nothing about him except he needs a decent haircut and PSG looked pretty disorganised under him.
I'll post this here because the Lampard thread is closed.
Tuchel just has to get a tune out of Werner and Havertz, or at least definitely instill some confidence into Werner..... Get Pulisic back on song and he'll be on to something.
Will he do it? Who knows
Probably find Mount will play a little less now. As i think Tuchel seems someone who goes for experience over youth. Also wonder whether theyll give him any room to move in the last week of the window
EDIT: Expect Rudiger and Jorginho to play often, too
Will he do it? Who knows
Probably find Mount will play a little less now. As i think Tuchel seems someone who goes for experience over youth. Also wonder whether theyll give him any room to move in the last week of the window
EDIT: Expect Rudiger and Jorginho to play often, too
He fell out with Leonardo at PSG as he wanted to keep Thiago Silva and Cavani and leonardo as DoF said no to an extension for both as i understand it. Its hard to gauge the purchases at PSG because like at other big European clubs the manager doesnt always have the final say. He told PSG he wouldnt be extending his contract and they got shot of him.
He got that disfunctional unit to a CL final which is no mean feat when you have to juggle egos such as icardi, di maria, neymar and play nice to hier apparent to messi & ronaldo.
I think he did a good job at Dortmund. Helped Pulisic and Dembele shine. He plays fast attacking football and like to press high. I think he will be a very good coach for chelsea. Question is how long can he keep from pissing off Marina Granovaskyia as all of his predecessors have done when not agreeing with her transfer targets.
He got that disfunctional unit to a CL final which is no mean feat when you have to juggle egos such as icardi, di maria, neymar and play nice to hier apparent to messi & ronaldo.
I think he did a good job at Dortmund. Helped Pulisic and Dembele shine. He plays fast attacking football and like to press high. I think he will be a very good coach for chelsea. Question is how long can he keep from pissing off Marina Granovaskyia as all of his predecessors have done when not agreeing with her transfer targets.
Does anyone think Chelsea have treated a club legend poorly?
Lampard barely got a chance to turn things around.
One bad run and we was given the bullet.
Lampard barely got a chance to turn things around.
One bad run and we was given the bullet.
Hardly underachieved, he guided Dortmund to a 78 point season in his first season there, scoring more goals than Bayern. For comparison, in the two seasons where Dortmund won back-to-back titles under Klopp they had 75 and 81 points. Tuchel was just unfortunate to go up against the best Bayern side of all time perhaps. And he still won the Cup, knocking Bayern out in the process. Some Dortmund fans still consider it one of the biggest mistakes to let him go, because he had a fallout with Watzke.
We are the club we are. I've accepted it.
Seems like a really shite choice, I’m not a fan of Tuchel.
Given that he had the worst points per game of any manager under Abramovich, he can hardly say this sacking is down to one isolated bad run. If the stories out now about his management of individual players are true, then he can have no complaints.
I do appreciate honesty a lot, and agree with you on that note, while at the same time, as scouring twitter 24-7 is not my interest, I really can use a few good aggregators to do it for me. Which is a big part of journalism too, to be fair.
Think they could've waited at least for the rest of the season but it would also be a bad thing to let him keep the job only on the merit of being a club legend with nothing else to back him up.
but wish him a speedy recovery?
What’s the story with his player management?
If The Athletic are to be believed, he was very cliquey - he was not shy about making his favourites known and he'd neglect to talk to those outside that inner circle, to the point where those on the fringes felt they had no avenue back into the squad.
This seemed quite evident given his team selections at times - pushing CHO to the fringes while giving huge minutes to Pulisic has made zero sense on the basis of form. Hence many players feeling that the selection wasn't down to merit.
Hopefully Tuchel fails miserably. I've always had time for Lampard, top professional as a player and a well-spoken person, in my opinion.
Wasn't Pulisic supposed to be levels above Rashford though? Didn't know his stock has fallen so low that Chelsea fans want him benched.
Still even in his Dortmund days he didnt signed exactly well besides Dembele and Guerreiro who were/are a huge success for them , Schurle, Gotze (back from Bayern), Rode, Castro, Mor, Isak, Bartra, Merino, Weighl, etc
Not saying it was as drose as PSG, but my point is he isnt exactly a great talent spotter, so hopefully it continues that way with Chelsea.
Don't think you'll find a single credible Chelsea fan who argued that to be honest.
It's also not so much a matter of wanting him benched as wanting him managed properly - Lampard played him for 90 minutes twice in 48 hours despite him having serious proclivities towards muscle injuries. This was absolutely insane.
He's struggled to find form since returning from injury and Lampard has given him a few too many chances for some online fans.
It's a difficult one, CHO also has looked shite most of the time he's started and Pulisic was excellent at the end of last season.
We've got a very deep squad and when the first XI are not playing well, all the fanboys of all the various players come out of the woodwork on Twitter. Pulisic doesn't play? Lampard prefers the academy players. Tammy doesn't play? Lampard is a racist. Havertz doesn't play? Lampard can't get the best out of his players. CHO doesn't play? Lampard can't bring through youth players.
Just looking at the Chelsea official Twitter after a team is announced is hilarious/depressing. I genuinely don't consider them to be Chelsea supporters, despite which player they have as their profile pic. Nothing to do with going to games or where they live but there's literally zero "support" coming from them.
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Yeah but even at Dortmund he had limited input into signings - at Dortmund (like most German clubs) recruitment is largely siloed from the coaching staff.
Apparently that was a big part of the push for Tuchel or another coach from the Bundesliga - they're used to adapting to the recruitment of the board rather than being the driving force behind it.
It’s not “recruitment”, it’s “investment” for the most German clubs
Barring relegation I would have given Lamps 18 more months - but that‘s not how football works. Considering his lack of experience in top football I would say he was given sufficient time, especially since he seems to be a little stubborn with his approach.
Oh didn't knew that, hopefully Chelsea's recruiment board is the one making the calls then. Luckily for us they havent been exactly well for a couple of seasons now.