Perhaps. However, it doesn't negate what I said. Nevertheless, black, white whatever, the best solution is to make these social media companies accountable. The government won't do it, so maybe the public needs to abandon them and teach them a lesson.
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No. As long as we give the social media companies power, they won't ever change their disgusting policies. Starve them. Otherwise, we're always going to have this problem.
The government would have to force social media companies to act which they're probably loathe to do.
The companies will say users need to report abuse and then they'll delete it. Rather than auto blocking any users who use certain phrases.
The companies will say users need to report abuse and then they'll delete it. Rather than auto blocking any users who use certain phrases.
Absolutely mate. Should’ve been done years ago.
You see it even with the likes of Harry Maguire, being called a slow goofy slabhead every single time he puts a foot partially wrong. It’s bullying right there in front of our very eyes and it just goes on and on and on.
Trolls exist everywhere online and as I say, I’m certain most of them do it just to hurt rather than anything else, they thrive off getting a reaction. Social media has just amplified this beyond belief.
People report abusive content all the time and social media companies say it doesn't violate their disgusting policies. We have kids who get bullied to the point of suicide and they still do nothing. That's the sort of corporations we're dealing with.
They won't do anything unless they see the profits disappearing. It's as simple as that.
Absolutely.
Look at young Greenwood. The comments he's received seems to have really affected him. He's just 19! He definitely should abandon social media - at least for a while. I really don't know how you discourage young lads from this though. I didn't grow up with social media so it's easy for me I suppose.
Are you sure about that. Isn't the actual case that people sometimes report abusive content which are dealt with but that outside of automated regulation there is no way to monitor billions of daily posts? Twitter alone has an estimated 500m tweets per day.
I'm sure they have the technology to do something but they just don't want to do it.
And yes, people report stuff all the time - not just racism - and social media companies don't want to do feck all. There is no way anyone will convince me they can't do better, they just don't want to. Hate is profitable for them.
There is a difference between maybe doing better and doing nothing, the latter clearly not being the case. You actually think that it's easy to monitor 500m posts, in multiple languages and determine whether something said is worthy of a sanction without giving it a thought? Because one could be bullied or insulted without the use of expletives, violent or racist terms and you can also use those terms in a conversation about these topics without causing any harm.
You can add Rashford to the list now.
5 players in the last couple of years racially abused by the club's own fans. Which other football club has as bad a record?
Yes. To put it very simply: anonymity brings the worst out of certain people and it's not in the interest of these corporations to undo this status quo for growth reasons.
Disgusting, twitter is toxic.
Just woke up to the news of Rashford getting it too.
These turds probably don't think they're being racist and are just lobbing abuse, but in reality they are. I've not seen anything on Rashford's page; just don't have the heart to look on a Sunday morning.
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As always, someone needs to make a Twitter alternative for verified accounts only where every single person is accountable for their words. They’ll make a lot of money and Twitter will become nothing more than Parler.
If celebrities then want to carry on posting on Twitter, that’s their look out. At the moment they’re knowingly and willingly posting on one of the biggest shitholes on the internet. You can cut the racism out of it and it would still be a shithole. It has its good, great and legendary moments, of course, but they don’t tend to come from anonymous accounts with lots of numbers at the end of their usernames.
If celebrities then want to carry on posting on Twitter, that’s their look out. At the moment they’re knowingly and willingly posting on one of the biggest shitholes on the internet. You can cut the racism out of it and it would still be a shithole. It has its good, great and legendary moments, of course, but they don’t tend to come from anonymous accounts with lots of numbers at the end of their usernames.
You don't need Interpol. All these companies know who these people are. All they need is do is ban them.
The problem is that it's now OK to be racists, anti semitic and Islamaphobic.
Players like Jones and Maguire gets abuse too but it's not racist abuse. All abuse should be banned.
The problem is that it's now OK to be racists, anti semitic and Islamaphobic.
Players like Jones and Maguire gets abuse too but it's not racist abuse. All abuse should be banned.
Have we had the “calling someone a monkey or ape is not racist they are just generic terms for calling someone crap” posts yet?
The things that baffles me about racist fans is...
As a fan you are nothing but a spectator, you add no value to the team other than cheering, buying tickets and merchandise.
Meanwhile, someone like Marcus Rashford, is a millions times better than the racist on the football pitch, and makes literally millions of dollars more than the racist every year.
Marcus Rashford adds real value to Manchester United's success, the racist fan, zero value, not wanted or needed.
As a fan you are nothing but a spectator, you add no value to the team other than cheering, buying tickets and merchandise.
Meanwhile, someone like Marcus Rashford, is a millions times better than the racist on the football pitch, and makes literally millions of dollars more than the racist every year.
Marcus Rashford adds real value to Manchester United's success, the racist fan, zero value, not wanted or needed.
Absolutely agree. The Tuanzebe comments looked to be from two kids in Malaysia or perhaps Indonesia. Now the entire fan base is being asked to do a load of soul-searching and genuflection.
We have shit fans, fans who are glory hunters, fans who would run over their family because United isnt successful. When United isnt successful it causes these fans stress and anger rather than simple disappointment over a sport.
Its not a surprise at all that some of our fans turn to racism as a way of expelling their feelings.
Our fans club is one of the most disappointing aspects of this football club.
Its not a surprise at all that some of our fans turn to racism as a way of expelling their feelings.
Our fans club is one of the most disappointing aspects of this football club.
The racism is disgusting enough as it is but the death threats, against not only Martial but also his family, are absolutely horrifying. There truly are some disgusting creatures in our society and I sincerely hope that there is some way of weeding them out once and for all.
I would say we comfortably have the worst fanbase on Twitter.
Absolutely brainless take.
I generally avoid Twitter, but whenever I dip my toes in the water I'm quickly reminded of what a cesspit it is.
The idiots hurling racial abuse should obviously be banned from Old Trafford, Twitter and anywhere else that it's possible to ban them from.
Said it a million times. Opening a social media account should require a valid means of ID.
It would change social media as we know it over night, and at this point I really don't see the downside.
How so?
Its a brainless attempt to stir up more trouble where there is none, you ought to be ashamed.
Assuming you're referring to 'donkey' which is commonly used in many professions to describe sub par work. (I'm a chef, donkey is used a lot)
Behave yourself.
You say this but there have been comments on twitter stating that these calls of racism are just excuses for players to not concentrate on their own performances.
What's that got to do with what I've posted?
Because what the poster broadly said might occur broadly did occur on another platform.
Monkey and Ape are also used to describe stupid or aggressive behaviour like the tone of your post but it’s also used as a racist insult. Often those that use it racially will hide behind “no I didn’t mean it that way, I meant it the other way”
And actually I was referring to Voodoo and numerous other examples which a “brainfull” person like yourself will already be aware of , clearly a term used mostly racially (although arguably not in Zlatan case due to previous context)..
The man who abused Ian Wright got off without a criminal conviction or even a fine, despite admitting he did it. So you're right that that the Irish police took it seriously but it's just a shame the judge didn't.
"At a sentencing hearing at Tralee District Court on Wednesday, Judge David Waters said he “didn’t see anything to be gained” by imposing a criminal conviction, and handed O’Brien probation."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...ter-racial-abuser-escapes-criminal-conviction
Whatever happened to throwing down the pad and snapping the disc in half like a normal person?
Seriously though, I've never lost a game of Fifa and thought "let me see who I can abuse"
Need a combination of things:
- make social media companies accountable
- proper punishment jail time for perpetrators and social media company executives
- education
You could see how upset Ian Wright was with the judge in the case about the Irish teenager
'At a sentencing hearing at Tralee District Court on Wednesday, Judge David Waters said 'he didn't see anything to be gained' by imposing a criminal conviction.'
How blind is the judge, everything was to be gained, in that if people are locked up for these crimes, it will be a deterrent for others.
Unfortunately it is everywhere including this forum sometimes, have a look at the thread 'Michael Owen has always been a cringe monster' and you will see some pretty nasty comments.
More troll posts about De Gea and Axel.
There's a lot, lot, lot more.
The media know what they're doing by offering every troll, no matter where they are, a chance to get 'famous' and be talked about constantly by publicising every one of these. You can see the trolls know it now too. There's more of them each time.
There's a lot, lot, lot more.
The media know what they're doing by offering every troll, no matter where they are, a chance to get 'famous' and be talked about constantly by publicising every one of these. You can see the trolls know it now too. There's more of them each time.
It's disgusting. Something needs to be done.
Mirror, Daily Heil and others reporting on it - again - while completely ignoring the many racist comments that were directed at De Gea, as well as the Axel ones asking to be screenshotted and talking about doing it for the headlines.
The media are extremely transparent. They're pouring gas on the fire, really deliberately.
The media are extremely transparent. They're pouring gas on the fire, really deliberately.
It's almost childlike.More troll posts about De Gea and Axel.
There's a lot, lot, lot more.
The media know what they're doing by offering every troll, no matter where they are, a chance to get 'famous' and be talked about constantly by publicising every one of these. You can see the trolls know it now too. There's more of them each time.
I'll never understand the need to add race to it, like it makes any difference.
Surely just calling him shit should cover it.