The Radiolab episode someone here recommended in the American Civil War thread about how the NRA latched onto and corrupted that sentence is very relevant listening.
The bad (typically gun related) things happening in America thread
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I tell this to friends who think I'm exaggerating, but I honestly believe this is the case. I've never wanted to be wrong about something more in my life. I'm from Texas and at one point I thought I understood the gun culture, but now it's clear the argument is intellectually dishonest at best. The more we become desensitized to it, the more this will happen until a real-life Gangs of New York script starts unfolding across America.
That was me and here you go:
Radiolab Presents: More Perfect - The Gun Show | Radiolab | WNYC Studios
This is, imo, essential listening for anyone who wants to have an opinion on the NRA.
Also Radiolab is pretty much always awesome.
I mean even for the literalists, there's the word 'well-regulated' right there.
It's concerning.
It's concerning.
I 100% agree.
As an aside, I remember exactly where I was when I first listened to this. The wife and I used to volunteer in Bama to be "victims" for a K9 SAR team. We would get dumped in the middle of the woods and wait till the team found us. It was really awesome to watch. Anyways, I was sat in the middle of nowhere listening to this episode while all around me dozens of gun shots were going off in the distance from some rednecks shooting at something. Kinda terrifying.
The US can be so random. In the worst possible ways.
Well, you have to factor in the obvious ‘crisis actor’ angle into this.
Racism still is the overarching factor here for me. Sadly, this might be another facet of it.
This fecking twisted trope again. The gall of these cretins. Such the Trump way, double down when wounded.
Suspect identified as Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/23/us/boulder-colorado-shooting-tuesday/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/23/us/boulder-colorado-shooting-tuesday/index.html
Is that a joke? That guy was not 21 years old.
Ah, now we shall see how quickly Fox News can cover this.
Sorry, the guy is clearly 30-45?
Tucker could be interesting tonight, no doubt.
well, considering he (and every single host) completely ignored it last night when it looks like a red neck white dude, this should be interesting.
I only had a quick scan but was pleantly surprised that many were sticking it to them
Top comment is from Jeff Tiedrich
feck sake.
I saw one saying people are fat so should we have fork control.
People be dumb.
For so many, many of those "people" I wish their parents had used birth control.
I love the ones who are saying that Biden let this murderer into the country due to his lax border policies.
I remember my pop telling me early in my life that ‘he loves individuals, but he hates people.’ It confused me at first.
This is a perfect example of his sentiment.
What if after a day of Fox frothing it was released that "oops, we made a mistake, is name is Chad McFacistface and he is a registered republican".
From my cold dead hands.
It's so fecking depressing isn't it. I refuse to live in fear but that doesn't stop me checking for the exits everywhere I go.
Gee, maybe it would have been better if this radicalized individual wasn't able to access firearms so easily. Over to you, Tucker.
A whole population radicalized by high fructose corn syrup, TV commercials and Zoloft
I hate how that'll change the discourse entirely. Before the identity was revealed, all of the talk was about gun control. Now, it'll all be about the darn foreigner and how they're coming in to destroy America. My question is how
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A bit off topic but your post got me thinking. Now we all know correlation doesn't equal causation,
(Rest in peace to the poor souls, i'm beyond discussing gun control at this point, I just despair)
I saw something, somewhere, that he had been in the USA for most his life. Forget ISIS, it's more likely he was radicalized by the US.
Not sure I caught everything, but wasn't it said he is a long term resident who came to the US as a child?
Mocking anti-depressants is really not the angle you should take in this situation, chief.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2021
107 mass shootings already in America.
107 mass shootings already in America.
Yes, when he was 3 years old.
That will have zero influence on how the right frames this. It's amazing how the arrangement of letters can shift how 40% of this country views a tragedy.
It is an angle when people are popping these pills like aspirin without having therapeutic assistance to go with it.
Edit: But quick googling tells me the anti-pharmaceutic line is a staple talking point used by US gun apologists, and that's not something I want to associate myself with at all, and it's also not an argument I want to make at all, so I retract the sloppy comment.
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One question I quite never seem to find a clear answer for: of all the mass shootings that happened in recent years, which % was done with legal weapons and which % with illegal weapons?
Yeah, Penna's right. I made a mistake in saying that. That might have been a Freudian slip on my end probably due to my concerns over how this will be framed by much of the American media.