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I'll agree I get this one being a red more than the shocker last weekend.
I think you're missing the fact that these days a legit attempt for a tackle is NOT a red anymore when last man. It changed.He missed the tackle not the ball. Like I’ve said numerous times he failed to take possession away from Vardy with his attempted tackle so the challenge on Vardy is still a denial of a goal scoring opportunity.
He can't retract his leg. You're basically saying even though he could easily get a touch to the ball, he's not allowed to.He made contact with the ball first yes, but it is no longer a successful tackle after raking his studs up Vardy's ankle.
Because VAR is useless. They're going to appeal and get it rescinded.So if I’m clearly wrong and the ref clearly got it wrong then why no VAR intervention if that’s clearly the rule?
But thats not how the rules are. As long as you get the ball first, then there are absolutely nothing which says you cant stop the player at the same timeAll he did was knock it slightly forward for Vardy to run onto and get a shot away. Vardy got taken out by the follow through so I think it’s a red.
Yeah that would be a real precedent for Var to be wrong, wouldn’t it?So if I’m clearly wrong and the ref clearly got it wrong then why no VAR intervention if that’s clearly the rule?
I thought that only applied to penalties?I think you're missing the fact that these days a legit attempt for a tackle is NOT a red anymore when last man. It changed.
You need to catch yourself on. That’s not how it’s refereed anymore. It’s only a red for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity if there was no attempt to play the ball. So a shirt pull is a red but a mistimed tackle is not.
This is why they virtually stopped sending off goalies.
Here, not only was there an attempt to play the ball, but he actually did get it. That’s simply not a red card.
Both wrong. Those things only apply if it's in the box. DOGSO outside the box is still a red card.I think you're missing the fact that these days a legit attempt for a tackle is NOT a red anymore when last man. It changed.
You don't have to "take possession away", you just have to make an attempt at a tackle, as opposed to say just kicking someone, or tugging them, which are not legit attempts.
The red only serves if it's for the reckless nature of the studs on leg follow through.
That’s for penalties.I think you're missing the fact that these days a legit attempt for a tackle is NOT a red anymore when last man. It changed.
You don't have to "take possession away", you just have to make an attempt at a tackle, as opposed to say just kicking someone, or tugging them, which are not legit attempts.
The red only serves if it's for the reckless nature of the studs on leg follow through.
JusticeJustice. Get in there
Really? Wow, they've really messed that rule up then. Like the handballs.That’s for penalties.
I would imagine the logic is that Vestergaard tries to make a tackle, touches the ball and then Vardy's foot but without dispossessing him, then makes contact with him a second time on the back of the leg which is what denies Vardy the goalscoring opportunity. Given that touching the ball in and of itself isn't enough to stop something being a foul and it's supposed to actively require a mistake on the ref's part to be overturned, that might be enough for it to stand.
Yeah I think that’s correct.I would imagine the logic is that Vestergaard tries to make a tackle, touches the ball and then Vardy's foot but without dispossessing him, then makes contact with him a second time on the back of the leg which is what denies Vardy the goalscoring opportunity. Given that touching the ball in and of itself isn't enough to stop something being a foul and it's supposed to actively require a mistake on the ref's part to be overturned, that might be enough for it to stand.
Same here.Genuinely baffled by the takes that he didn't get the ball. What are people watching?
I don't like what's happening to football.
I see you have more faith in other teams coming back than in the team you support.Still plenty of time. They came back against Palace too.
That would be absurd if true. What are you basing this on?Both wrong. Those things only apply if it's in the box. DOGSO outside the box is still a red card.
The rules.That would be absurd if true. What are you basing this on?
Interesting that they beat us without him then!Leicester game focuses around Maddison. Not much threat from others.
Oh shut up, you are conspicuously oblivious to any rules.The rules.
Don’t get mad at me because you don’t know the rulesOh shut up, you are conspicuously oblivious to any rules.
That is the rule. It's the "double jeopardy" thing. The idea is that both a penalty and a red card is too much of a punishment for one foul unless it's intentional.That would be absurd if true. What are you basing this on?
Can you find anything to support your views? I legit tried to look but cant find anything supporting youDon’t get mad at me because you don’t know the rules
I'm a pessimist.I see you have more faith in other teams coming back than in the team you support.
Yeah, that’s right. I realized it a minute too late. It is in fact because of double jeopardy. That very much explains it.That is the rule. It's the "double jeopardy" thing. The idea is that both a penalty and a red card is too much of a punishment for one foul unless it's intentional.
As far as I'm aware, he's correct.That would be absurd if true. What are you basing this on?
https://resources.premierleague.com...d-15878b6d33b2/2020-21-PL-Handbook-240321.pdfCan you find anything to support your views? I legit tried to look but cant find anything supporting you
Well I am not blind so could read your crybaby moaning at half time in the threads yesterday.I'm a pessimist.
But I'm glad to have made an impression on you. Do keep following me around.
Nothing you’ve posted here shows even a ghost any familiarity with the rules.Don’t get mad at me because you don’t know the rules
But as I see it, he tackles sucesfully - as he gets the ball - so its not denying any chance by unlawful meansAs far as I'm aware, he's correct.
If it happens in the area then you restore the goalscoring opportunity by awarding a penalty and give a yellow (if it's a genuine attempt to play the ball) or red (if it's not).
Whereas if it happens outside the area it's a red.
Might be wrong though.