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Why though? I don't think there's any point as he won't get a game and he's not been in good form really.Surprised Maddison didn't make the 33, I'd certainly have had a look at him over the next week if I was Southgate
Why though? I don't think there's any point as he won't get a game and he's not been in good form really.Surprised Maddison didn't make the 33, I'd certainly have had a look at him over the next week if I was Southgate
I would keep Shaw at LB or WB. He's flying.Dearth of depth at CB.
If I was Southgate I’d think about playing a loose 3 at the back with either Walker as RCB or Shaw at LCB and using wingbacks for width.
Maddison isn't even close to be honest. He's not been that good for Leicester and there is adequate depth I think. If you think of players who can play as a 10, there is Mount, Foden and Grealish already. Maddison doesn't play wide and probably is not seen as suitable to play deeper in midfield.Surprised Maddison didn't make the 33, I'd certainly have had a look at him over the next week if I was Southgate
Always been England's main failing when it comes to the crunch hasn't it?Our central midfield looks underwhelming.
Thank feck.We're clearly going in circles here, I'm done with this conversation.
JWP is different to Mings and Coady. Deserves a place in the squad.Something seriously wrong with our midfield if we're considering taking Ward-Prowse. Happens every tournament, all the mid table fans clamour for their average players to be taken to a tournament and we end up with squads filled with Matty Upsons and Emile Heskeys.
#NoToMingsAndConnorCoady
I hope he doesn't go 3 at the back. Its not our best formation.What I would like
...........................................Henderson............................................
Walker................Stones..............................Maguire..............Shaw
................................................Rice..................................................
..........................Mount.................................Foden.........................
............Sancho.......................Kane........................Rashford..........
What I expect from southgate
.........................................Pickford............................................
..............Walker................Maguire.............Stones....................
Trent.................Rice......................Henderson.............Chilwell
...................Mount........................................Foden...................
.........................................Kane..................................................
I agree - but Ive got a feeling he will... probably walker or shaw functioning as a CB? ... Im guessing Walker as he did it beforeI hope he doesn't go 3 at the back. Its not our best formation.
Ben White is not as good as Webster and DunkBetter than Mings/Coady
Rashford doesn’t deserve to startWhat I would like
...........................................Henderson............................................
Walker................Stones..............................Maguire..............Shaw
................................................Rice..................................................
..........................Mount.................................Foden.........................
............Sancho.......................Kane........................Rashford..........
What I expect from southgate
.........................................Pickford............................................
..............Walker................Maguire.............Stones....................
Trent.................Rice......................Henderson.............Chilwell
...................Mount........................................Foden...................
.........................................Kane..................................................
Agree with this. One thing I've noticed is that England have possibly the best bunch of attacking players at the tournament, including some very entertaining footballers to watch. It would be a shame if we don't see a team with Grealish, Foden, Sancho, Rashford, Trent, Shaw, and Kane playing attacking football with a bit of flair and arrogance. If we instead see a back five when these sorts of players are in the squad I'd be very disappointed in Southgate. Football would weep.Said it in another thread but if this England side doesn’t do well it’s on Southgate. 4of our back 5 are English with Rashford, Greenwood aswell. We are being linked with Rice,Grealish,Kane and Rice if people think they will take United back to the top then England should be challenging for this Euros nothing more nothing less.
I have said a WC SF was great but the performances were so poor 2 loses to Belgium scraping by Columbia and Tunisia and getting KO by Croatia. This England squad is only behind France IMO and they need to show it and if they don’t it’s all Southgate fault because there is so much talent there
I said after the WC that I thought England were poor and got slaughtered especially since I was Irish people thought I was just hating on England . Yes it was progress as a SF but the football was poor.Agree with this. One thing I've noticed is that England have possibly the best bunch of attacking players at the tournament, including some very entertaining footballers to watch. It would be a shame if we don't see a team with Grealish, Foden, Sancho, Rashford, Trent, Shaw, and Kane playing attacking football with a bit of flair and arrogance. If we instead see a back five when these sorts of players are in the squad I'd be very disappointed in Southgate. Football would weep.
Agreed. Put Rice at DM too and then you have a flexible quartet of two CMs and two forwards. But please no double pivot and a back 3.Dearth of depth at CB.
If I was Southgate I’d think about playing a loose 3 at the back with either Walker as RCB or Shaw at LCB and using wingbacks for width.
Gareth loves James. It’s him and walker going and between Trent and Trippier for the last spot I reckon.I'd be leaving behind:
Ramsdale, James, Mings, Godfrey, Ward-Prowse, Lingard and Saka.
No chance Gareth will agree with me, but it's a very debatable call.
I'm a fan of James too. I could just imagine him being quite vulnerable if it is a straight fight between him and Trent. However, you could well be right about it being Trippier battling with Trent instead.Gareth loves James. It’s him and walker going and between Trent and Trippier for the last spot I reckon.
I think he makes a lot of sense as a bench player, an impact sub. Not sure what Southgate is thinking but I couldn't imagine myself not taking a player you can chuck on across the front and can bag a goal from not much at all. Throwing on DCL and lumping in crosses in desperate search of a goal is probably the way they'll go but Greenwood would make sense for something different.Do people really think Mason will go? I'm not really sure Gareth has any trust in him
I agree 100% I just don't know if it's realistic that Gareth also believes that.I think he makes a lot of sense as a bench player, an impact sub. Not sure what Southgate is thinking but I couldn't imagine myself not taking a player you can chuck on across the front and can bag a goal from not much at all. Throwing on DCL and lumping in crosses in desperate search of a goal is probably the way they'll go but Greenwood would make sense for something different.
Would agree with that squad apart from Godfrey for White, having said that I do worry that we lack some defensive nous in the full backs if we come up against an Mbappe/Hazard at some point in the competitionWas thinking about this squad at the weekend and more-so today. The 33-man squad doesn't change my thoughts much on what I'd think/expect the 26 would be. I'm glad Southgate has made the call on players like Eric Dier at last, it shows evolution on his part.
This is the squad I expect and is pretty much what I would pick also:
GK: Henderson, Johnstone, Pickford
DF: Alexander-Arnold, Chilwell, Maguire, Mings, Shaw, Stones, Trippier, Walker, White
MF: Bellingham, Foden, Grealish, Henderson, Mount, Phillips, Rice, Ward-Prowse
FW: Calvert-Lewin, Greenwood, Kane, Rashford, Sancho, Sterling
Maybe harsh on Coady, but I have not been impressed with Wolves in general this season and think he has dipped slightly from what I've seen. I don't expect the '4th choice' CB to get on the pitch anyway. If Maguire gets injured again, Mings will play because he is the only one with similar aerial ability. Walker will play if we use the back three.
Lots of people like James, but I don't think there's much use for him in the squad right now. Trippier makes more sense as a utility full back who can provide quality set pieces of needed.
This would be the reason I'd take Ward-Prowse also. Whoever that midfielder is, they're automatically behind Rice, Henderson and Phillips anyway. They probably won't play, but to get in the squad you need to have something else. Set pieces can make a massive difference, so I'd throw Ward-Prowse in the mix.
Regardless of however people rate the ability / quality of the following players, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even get on the pitch in the whole tournament if there aren't injuries or suspensions:
White, Trippier, Bellingham, Ward-Prowse, Calvert-Lewin, Greenwood (or whoever is taken instead). That's six players, along with two goalkeepers is eight. I'd wager the other 18 players will play all the minutes between them - even if we had the luxury of resting players for the final group game.
What about if we got a free-kick in a central area, do you not think it would be good to have someone in the squad who can deliver something from set-pieces other than TAA that's if he still gets picked of courseYeah, absolutely. Fan pressure is something I think every England manager runs afoul of. There's not a chance Connor Coady would've got a call up had there not been a social media movement from Wolves fans clamouring for him.
What, the alternative for Ward-Prowse? Phillips, Bellingham, Rice, Henderson, Mount. He's so average it's painful, should be nowhere near an England Euros squad. If we're taking Ward-Prowse we might as well take Winks and Barkley.
Yeah, in that case I wouldn't be surprised to see Southgate use a back 3 with Walker or Shaw as the third CB. Or, put Phillips on them as a man marker.Would agree with that squad apart from Godfrey for White, having said that I do worry that we lack some defensive nous in the full backs if we come up against an Mbappe/Hazard at some point in the competition
Pretty good and well balanced squad but Marcus certainly needs little gametime in a couple of group games
- He cannot play wingback.Where the feck is Bissaka in the provisional squad?