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Lionel Messi’s Obscene Contract
- Thread starter Port Vale Devil
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Nope. It's just reducing advantages.
Smaller teams wont be affected by salary cap at all. It'll only hampers big teams.
Out of interest which team do you support?
Barca need talisman, Madrid are lucky they have Benzema to carry the mantle from Ronaldo. If i were Laporta i would let Messi go, sold some senior players like Busquet, Pique and players on high wages on discount, try to build the club from the stratch again. They are lucky playing in La Liga where the competition for CL spot isnt as stiff as PL so that they can always expect money from CL. Break the bank for Halaand or Mbappe next season.
Messi could paid the rest of his contract last season but no club would touch him if he did that.
Is he on that because of the high wages Messi got? Same with all the other "overpaid" players, they'd ask more because of the salary structure and Messi's high wages.
Of course Man Utd. I do follow Ronaldo’s game though as he is my favorite player.
Because there's a salary cap they need to be within. If he demands an extortionate contract they won't be able to have any other very good players.
Ronaldo Football Club
I appreciate your honesty on this issue.
When I seize power I shall only banish you to a remote island, unlike what I shall do to the likes of Agnelli and Perez
The cherry on top is that these players also need to cover for him on the pitch and make up for Messi's non-existent work rate. Some people think (myself included) he's entitled to be their best paid player but having insane wages does have an effect on the rest of the team. Like the most sick figures for me is what Griezmann earns, and then when you look at the numbers you realize the whole team is being overpaid and players like Umtiti refusing to leave even though being fully aware they're not wanted by the board or the fans. Another problem would be that they also gave huge contracts to players that overlap or are incompatible playing along with Messi, so no matter how you look they need to get rid of them.
If you have the GOAT in your team you have to work for him.
Thereby increasing competitiveness.
Nobody has even attempted to explain why would Barcelona keep Messi and his supposedly club-ruining wages against his will last summer instead of just taking the 100M+ offers and saying goodbye to his wages. Maybe the board were on drugs last summer, or were heavily affected health-wise by Covid and couldnt think properly, which then Evil Messi took advantage from?
Or maybe they did their analysis and were willing to go to trial against their best player ever for a reason?
Or maybe they did their analysis and were willing to go to trial against their best player ever for a reason?
This is said so regularly and I don't doubt that there are many sources that say he wanted to, but I'm dubious. What would have changed so quickly? Why would he now be keen to stay with the sinking ship that is Barcelona? It's not like he'd be short of suitors this summer and Barca no longer have him contractually. I reckon he never really wanted to leave - he's very comfortable at Barca, gas a club that bends to his every whim, he knows the club inside out, plays with players that are told to do his dirty work etc. Why risk moving?! Before the inevitable pile on, I think he's brilliant and one of the greatest to play the game. I just think he's very comfy at Barca and wouldn't want to step out of that bubble.
Some people here see an oportunity to bash Messi, they have no answer to that.
The thing is everything would be better if they were winning stuff like they used to, then you could justify it despite the financial issues but they're not doing it and this financial limitations is also going to affect their ability to reinforce the team. The team lacks balance and it must be clear now is that having Messi isn't absolutely necessary to win the league title or the UCL.
I don't see why that would be his problem? Footballers wages are ridiculous but his contract is fair based on the market.
He is not a charity and has done more for Barcelona than any player in history. It was not his choice for them to spend hundreds of millions on flops.
If he chooses to do so then good for him, it is very kind but if he is going to do an act of charity he would be better placed signing for City and donating the money he would be giving up to homeless shelters.
He publicly sent a fax to FC Barcelona telling them that he wanted out, then Barcelona publicly stated that they were willing to go to trial with Messi if necessary, then Messi decided not to fight them in court, then had a public interview explaining the whole saga. Its all there, there's no arguing against this.
He wanted out, and Barcelona kept him against his will. Now he's the bad guy because Barcelona cant afford him? Thats just laughable, even for the cafe
Fair enough mate I was just interested as you joined around the time Ronaldo made his United debut.
Or it was a PR warning shot across the bows to prep for this summer's contract negotiation. If he wanted out then, what's changed in the intervening year when the situation at Barca has got even worse?
Without Messi Barcelona would ended the season without Copa del Rey and 10th in La Liga, the defense was horrid, he was the pichichi and the assist leader, what more do you want from him?
Exactly, you see I named myself as RedRonaldo, when Ronaldo has just made his debut here. I was Man Utd supporters long before that, during Hughes/Cantona era and class of 92. But Ronaldo was something else, he was a very special talent from his very first day here.
From Messi he can pretty much do whatever he wants, he can stay at Barcelona or go to another that offer him a good project. It all depends on what he prioritizes but just like Ronaldo he's at the dawn of his career so I'm sure he would fancy to least win another UCL. Barcelona as a team and as a institution are the ones who need to asses the situation about what to do with this mess they're in.
Because if he takes a very large amount of the pot, it leaves little to build a team around him.
Of course, he may just be happy just taking the money and not worrying about trophies.
Perez bitching about TV rights not being enough, and how kids don't watch football on TV any more, is the biggest pile of horseshit to come from anyone ever. Of course they don't watch football on TV. What parents can afford to pay 8-900 pounds a year for their kids to watch football?
News reports from May this year said that watching the next premier league season is gonna cost about 8 times what Netflix/HBO/etc cost per month here in Norway (around 75 pounds a month). The reason is the TV rights cost THAT much more to buy from the clubs compared to last year. A 40% increase for the second year in a row. Poor Perez (and his like minded buddies) making only 40% more on his already multi billion dollar business, and wonder why regular people don't wanna pay for it..
And we're here bitching about the players beeing greedy - as if any of you wouldn't be grabbing what ever you could in the same market. Would you rather all that extra money that flow into this business every year just drops into the pockets of people like Perez instead? The real issue in football isn't the wages, the wages is just one of many issues that stem from the real issues.
News reports from May this year said that watching the next premier league season is gonna cost about 8 times what Netflix/HBO/etc cost per month here in Norway (around 75 pounds a month). The reason is the TV rights cost THAT much more to buy from the clubs compared to last year. A 40% increase for the second year in a row. Poor Perez (and his like minded buddies) making only 40% more on his already multi billion dollar business, and wonder why regular people don't wanna pay for it..
And we're here bitching about the players beeing greedy - as if any of you wouldn't be grabbing what ever you could in the same market. Would you rather all that extra money that flow into this business every year just drops into the pockets of people like Perez instead? The real issue in football isn't the wages, the wages is just one of many issues that stem from the real issues.
He certainly is at his dawn of his career but still providing, I think a two year contract 20 million a year would be fair for both parties, I'm more keen to see him in another league but it seems that his family is too confortable in Barcelona.
Personally if my company told me that they need to pay me less than I am worth because they have made poor financial decisions and need the money to hire the right amount of staff to achieve our targets then I would tell them to get fecked and go somewhere that can afford to pay me my worth and pay other staff. As I said if he wants to do it as an act of charity then good for him, not his responsibility though.
They could also say to him that, as the salary cap is so much lower, we'll have to pay you a lot less to fit in.
And he would be justified in saying "It is a shame that you can not afford my wages, all the best in the future."
You won't increase competitiveness unless if you think that players will take lesser contracts and also not join the current top teams. Because smaller clubs aren't seating on unused funds, they can't afford top players even if you cut their wages in half.
1) Ronaldo doesn't play for Barca
2) It's fine playing for him but he's charging their wages as well at this point. They can do what they want but Barca is going to self destruct pouring all their assets into Messi.
They don't pour all their assets into Messi, the only reason they are in trouble is the inflated wages and transfer fees that they pay to almost everyone else. Think about it this way if you consider Messi wage at 138m per year, it roughly represent the same portion of Barcelona's wage bill than Deshaun Watson's cap hit for the Texans or any other QB that is around 40m. Also keep in mind that Barcelona generate more revenue than any NFL franchise not named Dallas Cowboys.
Barcelona should be perfectly while paying Messi the way they do, the issue is that they wasted every other cents.
But he won't, because he's very comfortable in his Barca bubble.
You have to remember that he also had a rift with the previous president and other execs, so it's not that crazy that he has changed his mind and now wants to stay. This is not to defend Messi, as I personally think his and other players' salaries are insane and I try in my own small way not to contribute to funding the madness
One of the main reasons he wanted to leave was the president and the board which has now been replaced.
Interesting, didn't know that tbf!
He did in the 90s to be fair.
Didn't realise this, thanks!
Do you not think that those players' salaries are so high because Messi's is?