Final: Italy vs England

[Mr Pigeon]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

 

[Bosws87]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

 

[0le]

For those wondering, here was that incident:

 

[Bosws87]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

Jokes aside, i don't remember this but is absolutely crazy in what world was that an italian freekick even a bad decision would be its a throw in

Did that coincide with the match fixing in the Serie A years by any chance as it looks unexplainable

 

[Mr Pigeon]

Jokes aside, i don't remember this but is absolutely crazy in what world was that an italian freekick even a bad decision would be its a throw in

Did that coincide with the match fixing in the Serie A years by any chance as it looks unexplainable

Which one? The 2006 scandal or the 2011 scandal

It's probably fair to assume that there was something scummy going on, but we just accepted the loss because we're Scotland and we're not allowed to have nice things.

 

[Reiver]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

Haven't forgotten it but all is forgiven if they win on Sunday.

Interestingly, I heard the referee for this match travelled over to Scotland with the Italian squad, stayed at the same hotel as them, ate his meals with them, and travelled to the stadium with them. Would that happen?

 

[djembatheking]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

Weak defending that, deserve to go out.

 

[TheReligion]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

Jesus I don't even recall that happening.

Ridiculous decision. How on earth is that an Italian freekick.

 

[Pretzels81]

Jesus I don't even recall that happening.

Ridiculous decision. How on earth is that an Italian freekick.

Corruption.

 

[FootballHQ]

It was bad but the Barry Ferguson goal that made it 1-1 was a yard offside aswell.

Oh and Scotland actually needed to win to qualify.

 

[abundance]

It was bad but the Barry Ferguson goal that made it 1-1 was a yard offside aswell.

Oh and Scotland actually needed to win to qualify.

Di Natale also got a perfecty valid goal disallowed in the first half.

Spoiler: (at 1:07)

Pretty crap refereeing overall.

 

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[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

"Why didn't he clear it? He had the chance, put your foot through it, that's your job" - Roy Keane

 

[Pink Moon]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

How is that Italy cheating us?

That's the referee cheating us. The same referee also gave Eduardo a penalty v Celtic for the worst dive of all time. Clearly hates Scotland

 

[Wolf1992]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

Italy was superior that match, they deserved to win anyway, it doesn't matter if it came out of referee mistake.
When one team it's superior it doesn't matter if they win with referee's help, it's all about the better team winning.

BTW I'm using the same logic that people used here to defend the penalty given to England in semifinals.

 

[tenpoless]

Why do you hate Italy when Fabio Capello managed your NT for 5 years.

 

[abundance]

Wasnt pasta invented in China?

Thanks for the interesting question, which I'll happily answer with an uncalled-for, obnoxious off-topic essay.


Making some pasta is a straightforward idea that surfaces the very moment you have fire, cookware, and flour.

Just mix flour, water, and optionally a proteic binder like eggs, into a unleavened dough that's then portioned into whatever bite-sized shape or clump to be boiled or steamed. Even a troglodite can come up with that and oh! that's yummy!

Noodles, maccheroni, lasagna, dumplings, gnocchi, spätzle, cous cous... it's all the same stuff, and it's deeply rooted in many traditional dishes everywhere.

So, if it's true that agriculture was first developed in the fertile crescent, then pasta most probably first appeared somewhere around there and was then exported or reinvented anywhere agriculture was exported or reinvented.

China has remarkably ancient archaeological proofs of existence of proper miàn noodles, just as ancient Greek literature has mentions of their own ("itria"), just as a passage in the Talmud debates whether unleavened dough is still kosher if boiled...

Dried pasta was probably a Mediterranean or middle-eastern development as it requires durum (hard wheat) which is endemic in the sub-saharian region but wasn't available in east Asia.

So, what the italians have done exactly? Well, for whatever reason, they simply developed an obsession for pasta during modern cuisine era (that is, after the influx of new ingredients from the Americas), and so, alongside a lot of new recipes with fresh homemade pasta, they perfectioned dry pasta manufacturing with the "trafilatura al bronzo" (extrusion with bronze tooling) method.
Creating this sturdy dry pasta with virtually infinite shelf life which comes in so many cute shapes, stays "al dente" in the core, and loves to bind its rough surface to the sauce (the latter feature is a bit lost with very smooth contemporary industrial pasta extruded with teflon, but I digress).

So, well, definitely italians didn't invent pasta, they simply put lots of love into some specific variants of it.
We did invent the four-pronged fork to eat spaghetti though - that, we did.

 

[Beans]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

I mean is probably the wrong call, but it's shoulder to shoulder, hardly dirty. Do you expect them to kick it out of bounds because of that?

 

[Beans]

Thanks for the interesting question, which I'll happily answer with an uncalled-for, obnoxious off-topic essay.


Making some pasta is a straightforward idea that surfaces the very moment you have fire, cookware, and flour.

Just mix flour, water, and optionally a proteic binder like eggs, into a unleavened dough that's then portioned into whatever bite-sized shape or clump to be boiled or steamed. Even a troglodite can come up with that and oh! that's yummy!

Noodles, maccheroni, lasagna, dumplings, gnocchi, spätzle, cous cous... it's all the same stuff, and it's deeply rooted in many traditional dishes everywhere.

So, if it's true that agriculture was first developed in the fertile crescent, then pasta most probably first appeared somewhere around there and was then exported or reinvented anywhere agriculture was exported or reinvented.

China has remarkably ancient archaeological proofs of existence of proper miàn noodles, just as ancient Greek literature has mentions of their own ("itria"), just as a passage in the Talmud debates whether unleavened dough is still kosher if boiled...

Dried pasta was probably a Mediterranean or middle-eastern development as it requires durum (hard wheat) which is endemic in the sub-saharian region but wasn't available in east Asia.

So, what the italians have done exactly? Well, for whatever reason, they simply developed an obsession for pasta during modern cuisine era (that is, after the influx of new ingredients from the Americas), and so, alongside a lot of new recipes with fresh homemade pasta, they perfectioned dry pasta manufacturing with the "trafilatura al bronzo" (extrusion with bronze tooling) method.
Creating this sturdy dry pasta with virtually infinite shelf life which comes in so many cute shapes, stays "al dente" in the core, and loves to bind its rough surface to the sauce (the latter feature is a bit lost with very smooth contemporary industrial pasta extruded with teflon, but I digress).

So, well, definitely italians didn't invent pasta, they simply put lots of love into some specific variants of it.
We did invent the four-pronged fork to eat spaghetti though - that, we did.

My God. Is anything I was taught in school true? Marco Polo bringing back noodles was in my history book!

 

[Judas]

Why do you hate Italy when Fabio Capello managed your NT for 5 years.

No one hates Italy, do they? Not that your reason for liking Italy makes much sense! He didn't exactly bring the glory home did he.

 

[Gee Male]

Thanks for the interesting question, which I'll happily answer with an uncalled-for, obnoxious off-topic essay.


Making some pasta is a straightforward idea that surfaces the very moment you have fire, cookware, and flour.

Just mix flour, water, and optionally a proteic binder like eggs, into a unleavened dough that's then portioned into whatever bite-sized shape or clump to be boiled or steamed. Even a troglodite can come up with that and oh! that's yummy!

Noodles, maccheroni, lasagna, dumplings, gnocchi, spätzle, cous cous... it's all the same stuff, and it's deeply rooted in many traditional dishes everywhere.

So, if it's true that agriculture was first developed in the fertile crescent, then pasta most probably first appeared somewhere around there and was then exported or reinvented anywhere agriculture was exported or reinvented.

China has remarkably ancient archaeological proofs of existence of proper miàn noodles, just as ancient Greek literature has mentions of their own ("itria"), just as a passage in the Talmud debates whether unleavened dough is still kosher if boiled...

Dried pasta was probably a Mediterranean or middle-eastern development as it requires durum (hard wheat) which is endemic in the sub-saharian region but wasn't available in east Asia.

So, what the italians have done exactly? Well, for whatever reason, they simply developed an obsession for pasta during modern cuisine era (that is, after the influx of new ingredients from the Americas), and so, alongside a lot of new recipes with fresh homemade pasta, they perfectioned dry pasta manufacturing with the "trafilatura al bronzo" (extrusion with bronze tooling) method.
Creating this sturdy dry pasta with virtually infinite shelf life which comes in so many cute shapes, stays "al dente" in the core, and loves to bind its rough surface to the sauce (the latter feature is a bit lost with very smooth contemporary industrial pasta extruded with teflon, but I digress).

So, well, definitely italians didn't invent pasta, they simply put lots of love into some specific variants of it.
We did invent the four-pronged fork to eat spaghetti though - that, we did.

fecking hell hahaha

 

[TheReligion]

Italy was superior that match, they deserved to win anyway, it doesn't matter if it came out of referee mistake.
When one team it's superior it doesn't matter if they win with referee's help, it's all about the better team winning.

BTW I'm using the same logic that people used here to defend the penalty given to England in semifinals.

You've literally had Italy fans on here doing the very same and pointing out other errors that were made that night by the referee such as disallowing Di Natalie's goal..

Again that's football. You'd think some of you lot live under a rock.

 

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[Ayoba]

Why on earth is the final at 8pm on a Sunday?? Saturday would've made more sense

 

[Adcuth]

Thanks for the interesting question, which I'll happily answer with an uncalled-for, obnoxious off-topic essay.


Making some pasta is a straightforward idea that surfaces the very moment you have fire, cookware, and flour.

Just mix flour, water, and optionally a proteic binder like eggs, into a unleavened dough that's then portioned into whatever bite-sized shape or clump to be boiled or steamed. Even a troglodite can come up with that and oh! that's yummy!

Noodles, maccheroni, lasagna, dumplings, gnocchi, spätzle, cous cous... it's all the same stuff, and it's deeply rooted in many traditional dishes everywhere.

So, if it's true that agriculture was first developed in the fertile crescent, then pasta most probably first appeared somewhere around there and was then exported or reinvented anywhere agriculture was exported or reinvented.

China has remarkably ancient archaeological proofs of existence of proper miàn noodles, just as ancient Greek literature has mentions of their own ("itria"), just as a passage in the Talmud debates whether unleavened dough is still kosher if boiled...

Dried pasta was probably a Mediterranean or middle-eastern development as it requires durum (hard wheat) which is endemic in the sub-saharian region but wasn't available in east Asia.

So, what the italians have done exactly? Well, for whatever reason, they simply developed an obsession for pasta during modern cuisine era (that is, after the influx of new ingredients from the Americas), and so, alongside a lot of new recipes with fresh homemade pasta, they perfectioned dry pasta manufacturing with the "trafilatura al bronzo" (extrusion with bronze tooling) method.
Creating this sturdy dry pasta with virtually infinite shelf life which comes in so many cute shapes, stays "al dente" in the core, and loves to bind its rough surface to the sauce (the latter feature is a bit lost with very smooth contemporary industrial pasta extruded with teflon, but I digress).

So, well, definitely italians didn't invent pasta, they simply put lots of love into some specific variants of it.
We did invent the four-pronged fork to eat spaghetti though - that, we did.

What just happened?

 

[FootballHQ]

Why on earth is the final at 8pm on a Sunday?? Saturday would've made more sense

Can't recall a euros final or world cup final ever taking place on a Saturday in recent memory although kick off time obviously varies, think Russia world cup had the final at 4pm as remember it clashed with Wimbledon final.

 

[TheReligion]

Why on earth is the final at 8pm on a Sunday?? Saturday would've made more sense

Because the English will run riot throughout the streets, raping and pillaging all before them if it's played on a Saturday. Can't have it interupting Indian takeaway night and a punch up in the local boozer.

Am I doing this right?

 

[Pow]

Because the English will run riot throughout the streets, raping and pillaging all before them if it's played on a Saturday. Can't have it interupting Indian takeaway night and a punch up in the local boozer.

Am I doing this right?

 

[KirkDuyt]

I was kind of neutral, but the incessant whinging about England in our media has put me in their corner.

Italy fecking invented defensive, game killing shithousery, but now that they decided to attack a bit for all of 5 matches, they're suddenly God's gift to sportsmanship and the worlds embassy of attractive football?

And Chiellini isn't fecking Ghandi, he's a play acting, cheating twat who somehow should be respected because he's going bald and has a degree in business administration?

Oh and, screaming you national anthem in such an off key way my fecking brain starts hemorrhaging isnt passionate, it's daft.

Get the feck out of here. It's coming home.

 

[Bepi]

Thanks for the interesting question, which I'll happily answer with an uncalled-for, obnoxious off-topic essay.


Making some pasta is a straightforward idea that surfaces the very moment you have fire, cookware, and flour.

Just mix flour, water, and optionally a proteic binder like eggs, into a unleavened dough that's then portioned into whatever bite-sized shape or clump to be boiled or steamed. Even a troglodite can come up with that and oh! that's yummy!

Noodles, maccheroni, lasagna, dumplings, gnocchi, spätzle, cous cous... it's all the same stuff, and it's deeply rooted in many traditional dishes everywhere.

So, if it's true that agriculture was first developed in the fertile crescent, then pasta most probably first appeared somewhere around there and was then exported or reinvented anywhere agriculture was exported or reinvented.

China has remarkably ancient archaeological proofs of existence of proper miàn noodles, just as ancient Greek literature has mentions of their own ("itria"), just as a passage in the Talmud debates whether unleavened dough is still kosher if boiled...

Dried pasta was probably a Mediterranean or middle-eastern development as it requires durum (hard wheat) which is endemic in the sub-saharian region but wasn't available in east Asia.

So, what the italians have done exactly? Well, for whatever reason, they simply developed an obsession for pasta during modern cuisine era (that is, after the influx of new ingredients from the Americas), and so, alongside a lot of new recipes with fresh homemade pasta, they perfectioned dry pasta manufacturing with the "trafilatura al bronzo" (extrusion with bronze tooling) method.
Creating this sturdy dry pasta with virtually infinite shelf life which comes in so many cute shapes, stays "al dente" in the core, and loves to bind its rough surface to the sauce (the latter feature is a bit lost with very smooth contemporary industrial pasta extruded with teflon, but I digress).

So, well, definitely italians didn't invent pasta, they simply put lots of love into some specific variants of it.
We did invent the four-pronged fork to eat spaghetti though - that, we did.

Dear @Penna , patron of all the Caf n00bs still wandering in this forum’s basement, May you please get this compatriot, albeit an Inter fan, his tenth like asap and make him a full member, please? It could be his last couple of days on these shores and he deserves to go on a high, in case we all get banned. Thank you and “L’Italia chiamo’, si’!! “.

 

[Adcuth]

Dear @Penna , patron of all the Caf n00bs still wandering in this forum’s basement, May you please get this compatriot, albeit an Inter fan, his tenth like asap and make him a full member, please? It could be his last couple of days on these shores and he deserves to go on a high, in case we all get banned. Thank you and “L’Italia chiamo’”!

Id wait until after we win tomorrow. Might not be an enjoyable place for Italian's when our smug englishness comes out in full force. We've had to wait 55 years after all . palloni che tornano a casa

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Why on earth is the final at 8pm on a Sunday?? Saturday would've made more sense

It’s not the day, the time of KO is strange.

for anyone in the stadium, they have a decision to make watch one of the teams lift the trophy or spend an extra 2-3 hours getting home.

can’t honestly fathom why it is not 3pm or 5pm if worried about heat (although it’s bloody England, so not really a problem…!)

 

[Ramshock]

I had to remind one of my more neanderthal friends that cheering anyone other than England in this final means cheering for Italy. And any real Scottish football fan should remember that Italy cheated us out of Euro 2008 qualification with this absolute farce. Seriously, just watch it.


I still can't believe it.

Go and smash the cnuts.

No

 

[Bepi]

Id wait until after we win tomorrow. Might not be an enjoyable place for Italian's when our smug englishness comes out in full force. We've had to wait 55 years after all . palloni che tornano a casa

Moving to a near-by sea village in half an hour and re-opening the Caf on Monday morning. I survived the Conte / Mazzarri / Guidolin period , I cannot be banned until Juve wins their 3rd CL medal……… whooooops..

Ciao and good luck England, it has been a fantastic football month and it was nice to see some of your usually restrained players smile, maybe for the first time in their life, they are not really used to.

 

[Ramshock]

We are all Italians

 

[Red Dreams]

We are all Italians

Hope you are crying into your Guinness after the match.

 

[Sweet Square]

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Yeah might not want to use the guy who lost his head to the english.

No wonder these lot can't get independence.

We are all Italians

 

[shahzy]

Good lad. I lived in Australia for two years and picked up the habit from yous of using "c*nt" as a greeting/compliment, e.g. "he's a good c*nt", "alright c*nt".

Got me in some bother when I came home.

It's basically a compliment here at this point. More insulting if you don't say it