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No way did Southgate pick the penalty takers. Sterling and Grealish bottled it and he was forced to work with what he had. He's just saying that to protect the players.
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Yeah from actual matches - he's featured in shootouts for us and also for Derby though which was the original question as far as I could see. Certainly I'd have fancied him over Saka at the very least.Mount has only ever taken 1 pen for you.
He takes kicks in shootouts.Mount has only ever taken 1 pen for you.
I can't actually remember a pen shootout you lot have played in so fair enough.Yeah from actual matches - he's featured in shootouts for us and also for Derby though which was the original question as far as I could see. Certainly I'd have fancied him over Saka at the very least.
Interesting take from a person who has an incorrect opinion.Bullshit, it’s a free shot from 12 yards they chocked simple as that, Rashford’s penalty was a fecking disgrace, stupid run up and to stick it wide was embarrassing
Yeah. It shouldn't have been Saka, at least.True, and we just did it with Mata and Telles (though they've both been around the block) but I dunno, the weight of the nation on your shoulders and all that
Said the same. If those 2 aren't taking pens, bring rashy and sancho on at half time of ET and try and win the game, and they are still on for the penalties.You only play Rashford etc at RB to make room for pen takers. If Sterling and Jack arent taking one then theres no point in doing that, just sub those 2 off.
Mind boggling decision.
100%.You only play Rashford etc at RB to make room for pen takers. If Sterling and Jack arent taking one then theres no point in doing that, just sub those 2 off.
Mind boggling decision.
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Yeah it's not been a huge number or anything - league cup vs Spurs this past year off the top of my head and I think there was at least one the year before? He definitely was involved in the shootout between United and Derby the year before that I believe.I can't actually remember a pen shootout you lot have played in so fair enough.
Yep. This is surely on them. I can't imagine the manager wouldn't listen to the players.More experienced players sat back and watched a 19 year old kid take a pen. Grealish is hailed as the second coming Christ and he didn’t take one. Pathetic.
If he let them go first and Kane 5th he might never have gotten to take one. Didn't Portugal get caught out holding back Ronaldo for the 5th peno vs Chile and Claudio Bravo saved 3 in a row before it even got to him.Seriously. The captain was the first taker and the substitute youngster the fifth?
Fergie was actually a good man manager though. He could do things like that.Amazing how Anderson came on in 2008 in the same circumstances, don't think he even got a touch of a ball, probably on less than a minute, buried his pen. It's a very risky strategy, looks brilliant when it works, but when it doesn't, nightmare scenario.
Both of these lads deserved to make a difference in normal time, they were robbed of the chance to truly influence the final.
You might have a point and maybe he was meant to, but in the huddle might have suddenly doubted himself….these are thing no one will ever know but it’s certainly a possibilityAnother thing:
If Sterling could barely run/walk, then why you aren't talking him off for Sancho/Rashford if you don't want to shoot him a pen anyway?
Instead of this you are taking off two more experienced players with Henderson and Walker, while Sterling and Grealish can't/don't want to take a pen anyway.
It's just strange.
And nearly won the euros, if things had gone his way tonight he would have been a one of the penalties that win them the tournamentRashford gave up his op to sit on England's bench, get overlooked for players like Saka and then get thrown on for 3 minutes to take a penalty.
I don't begrudge him anything ... did I say that?And nearly won the euros, if things had gone his way tonight he would have been a one of the penalties that win them the tournament
Can you begrudge him that?
Hes got more than a point I think. You don't take walker of for rashford, re sub Henderson who fought for a penalty In the warm up games, unless think sterling and grealish are on your top 5 list.You might have a point and maybe he was meant to, but in the huddle might have suddenly doubted himself….these are thing no one will ever know but it’s certainly a possibility
True, Anderson came on in the last minute of play that night. But it was for Wes Brown who I imagine would otherwise have been taker #10 on United's list just before VDS. And Anderson himself only got the responsibility of being the taker for penalty #6, not even one of the initial 5. Belletti came on similarly for Chelsea and was tasked with penalty #2 for them which he slotted in fairly coolly.Amazing how Anderson came on in 2008 in the same circumstances, don't think he even got a touch of a ball, probably on less than a minute, buried his pen. It's a very risky strategy, looks brilliant when it works, but when it doesn't, nightmare scenario.
Both of these lads deserved to make a difference in normal time, they were robbed of the chance to truly influence the final.
Have you seen the penalty? He absolutely twatted it and it flew right smack in the middle. I bet he had no idea where the shot was going.Amazing how Anderson came on in 2008 in the same circumstances, don't think he even got a touch of a ball, probably on less than a minute, buried his pen. It's a very risky strategy, looks brilliant when it works, but when it doesn't, nightmare scenario.
Both of these lads deserved to make a difference in normal time, they were robbed of the chance to truly influence the final.
Did not know that. Just when I thought it couldn't get more moronic.Saka has never taken a penalty in his career and Southgate decided there's no problem with having him as the 5th taker. Utterly brainless decision.
Funny how he suddenly trusts them when he's hardly given either a kick during the whole tournament.I wasn't talking about his management of the game.
He's always been a terrible manager who England were doing well in spite off, but he didn't set up Sancho and Rashford to fail. If anything, he trusted two of his best penalty takers, and they failed to deliver.
Since when is Maguire one of the best 3 takers? His penalty technique was beyond risky and more lucky than anything. He took it like a goal kick, easy chance to sky it.If he let them go first and Kane 5th he might never have gotten to take one. Didn't Portugal get caught out holding back Ronaldo for the 5th peno vs Chile and Claudio Bravo saved 3 in a row before it even got to him.
Your three best should be your three first and it was, Kane, Maguire and Rashford.
Anderson literally said in an interview later that he thought he was totally fecked before the penalty and just decided to “kick it hard, close my eyes, and pray for it to go in.”Have you seen the penalty? He absolutely twatted it and it flew right smack in the middle. I bet he had no idea where the shot was going.
Rashford, Sancho and Saka psyched themselves out. Their penalties are very similar to the one Ronaldo missed for us. For Anderson it was the opposite.
You're kidding right? They played England off the park. They played everyone but Spain off the park, and that Spain game they held on but was a relatively even game too. They haven't lost in 30+ games and were the best managed from the start despite big injuries and being the away team. They're deserved winners.Italy are shite. Shouldn’t have even gone to pens. They got outclassed by Spain. I don’t read too much into pens but they were a poor finalist IMO.