Below, the tweet I posted was supposedly his initial response to the criticisms.
https://news.sky.com/story/rapper-d...c-comments-at-gig-i-needed-education-12371885
Doubt he'll be fully cancelled mind.
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Doubt he'll be fully cancelled mind.
Ah. Ok. Right. Sounds like a lovely fella.
Unlikely. Because Eazy-E was actually proper hip hop. I’d never heard of DaBaby until just now. I listened to three of his songs and I can safely say he’s not very good.I mean, it's the 21st century. We have all kinds of information at our fingertips. There's no excuse for that kind of ignorance anymore. Has this feckwit ever heard of Eazy-E?
But he fits in well with these modern day rappers who go around butchering the hip hop genre with their irritating mumbling auto tuned crap, playing over some generic beat that sounds like it’s been cooked up on a keyboard.
That would be in the clip from the concert.
i think the problem with we are seeing and the differences in opinions between people who are open minded and accepting is down to age and the type of comedy you listened to growing up and banter that was acceptable in your childhood teens.
So many people in their late 20s to 40s, grew up listening comedy and partaking in banter that today would get cancelled by the generation below.
On the other side of that coin many people in their late 20s to 40s, esp the 30/40 group, probably find the stuff said in humour that younger people find offensive over doing it
So many people in their late 20s to 40s, grew up listening comedy and partaking in banter that today would get cancelled by the generation below.
On the other side of that coin many people in their late 20s to 40s, esp the 30/40 group, probably find the stuff said in humour that younger people find offensive over doing it
Are you white? If yes, then yes.
And this happens with every generation tbf, hence why the likes of Roy Chubby Brown and Jim Davidson (and presumably whoever their American equivalents are) didn’t have particularly flourishing careers in the 90s. Every Gen gets to set the ‘rules’ of the kind of comedy they find appropriate, and ‘cancel’ those it deems outdated and offensive… the issue arises when the older generation become entrenched as the status quo and either forget this, or just assume that because they’ve had the levers of culture for so long; that their way is intrinsically right, rather than just another progression in an art form that regularly ‘dates’ quite badly to newer generations… I mean, how many people hold up ‘It Ain’t Half Hot Mum’ as an example of great comedy these days?
the alternative comedy counter culture of the late 80s & 90s completely changed how mainstream comedy was appreciated… it’s only right that Gen Z, or whoever, get the chance to do that too…
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Sometimes you change and don't find those things funny anymore.
I saw an Andrew Dice Clay video on YouTube the other day and thought I'd watch it because I remember how much he used to make us laugh back in the day. I lasted about five minutes before I turned it off.
It's also the fact that people conflate being offensive with being boring. You can joke about some really dark stuff, but you have to do it in a certain way that's different than the way the olds do it, and you have to be funny. Old people are, with a few exceptions, primarily funny to other old people.
Even Jerry Seinfeld complains that he can't do gigs at colleges anymore because the young people are too easily offended, and what's worse is that people believe that and chalk it up to political correctness gone mad.
No one's offended by Jerry Seinfeld, including young people, but young people don't laugh at his jokes because he's old and out of touch. Comedians can't accept that they're past it, so it has to be something wrong with the new generation. Joking about airline food is now offensive, because there's no way prime material like that can be stale and unfunny. These people have been telling the same jokes for decades, of course they're funny!
Or maybe, you know, different people have different senses of humour? And there are good old comics and bad old comics. Just like there are good young comics and bad young comics.
So tiresome the way fecking everything has to be spun into an inter-generational battleground these days…
Different materials for different times. I prefer observational humour like Billy Connolly and Dylan Moran. Tommy Tiernan to some respects too but he is a but more formulaic.
First he did the nursery rhymes which were kind of amusing but then basically devolved into what was essentially hate speech about homosexuals. So if we follow this logic then the 80s/90s were a horrible time for everyone who wasn't straight and white. I suppose that actually may be true. Thankfully, many people have changed.
Dana Carvey is another one. Aside from George Bush and the Church Lady most of his material was making fun of people from different ethnicities. That's not really funny anymore either and the act that from a few years ago I saw suffered for it.He literally had nothing without that.
I think comedy is subjective and to each their own, some people might like dark humour which often involves offensive material, the comedians who tailor to that niche shouldn’t be at risk of being cancelled. Although clearly with social media and in public they need to take the responsibility to distinguish their work material from public comments etc to make sure the two don’t get confused.
Can a white comedian make jokes about non-white people?
I feel like cancelling is basically only a mainstream thing anyway. For when someone contemporary says/does something out of turn. Those fringe comics you mention with niche humour will be fine as they weren’t mainstream in the first place. They’ll have their fans who like that stuff and will continue to support it, while the people who would be offended by it weren’t listening anyway.
Of course, you can joke about anything. Other people can decide whether or not to laugh though.
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What Comedians have actually been “cancelled” for edgy material?… that aren’t just not very good ones shunned by the mainstream, or sex pests?
Yeah, Frankie Boyle would've been cancelled a million times over for his edgy humour were it not for the fact that his edgy humour also has some humour to it. Most of these allegedly edgy comedians go completely over the edge to compensate for their utter lack of wit.
Anthony Jeselnik is a full on, unapologetic offense comic… he has 3 specials on Netflix.
Generally whenever people bring up “cancelling” in a comedy context, it almost always just means “some really shit jokes got criticised”
I guess you could say that guy that got hired and then unhired by SNL for making (bad) racist Asian jokes was a potential example?… But then is “not being hired by the most famous sketch show in the world” really being cancelled? Cos if so, it’s a low bar.
Generally whenever people bring up “cancelling” in a comedy context, it almost always just means “some really shit jokes got criticised”
I guess you could say that guy that got hired and then unhired by SNL for making (bad) racist Asian jokes was a potential example?… But then is “not being hired by the most famous sketch show in the world” really being cancelled? Cos if so, it’s a low bar.
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I’m sure there are lesser known comedians who actively crave the exposure they might get from a high profile cancellation.
I don’t think the well known comics doing bits about “cancel culture” are doing so because they think they’re at risk of being cancelled anyway. They have an established fan base who enjoy their shtick and know what to expect from them. If a load of people who would never pay for their material anyway takes offence at their comedy then it’s no skin off their nose. They just see the easily offended as a source of material for their act.
nice oneHahaha, I think text slang is not allowed so , I laughed out loud when I saw that,
Even in that guy's case, I'd be pretty confident the SNL controversy ultimately left him better off and selling quite a few live tickets. Being "the guy who was cancelled by SNL" is more of a career boost than just being some guy nobody knows. He was on the Joe Rogan podcast just a couple of weeks ago for example, exposure which sure as shit wouldn't have happened if he had never had that experience with SNL.
Jesus. Everything about that is terrible. Right from the very first word. “Statement”. Feck off.was wondering which thread to put this in, your post made it easy
It's wild to me that a person as rich and scrutinised as Trump doesn't have any PR reps, social media manager etc...clearly writes his own stuff.
Almost makes me appreciate his deranged ramblings a bit. I'd love to know why he chooses to capitalise completely random words.
Almost makes me appreciate his deranged ramblings a bit. I'd love to know why he chooses to capitalise completely random words.
The way media frames issues related to trans women as a form of attack on cis-women is nothing more than a right-wing tactic.
Which has precisely feck all to do with cancel culture but relevance doesn’t matter when you’re only interested in rehashing the same old tedious online culture war…
Thoughts on this Maher segment? He mentions cancel culture, starting at 0:40.
Hahaha you lost to Canada! Losers.was wondering which thread to put this in, your post made it easy
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Snickers in trouble for this ad. Wtf were they thinking?! Read the fecking room.
Snickers uses the catchphrase 'you're not you when you're hungry'. They've had many commercials where one person is kind of going off on one as one person and then once they start eating the candybar return to normal. I can see why they are getting flak for this particular scenario, although it is from Mexico and who knows, maybe the transgender person is somewhat recognizable in that market as the "not you" people in the example below are.
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It’s from Spain. The flamboyant camp bloke with the long hair is apparently a well known influencer. Incredibly bad taste considering there was a recent high profile case in Spain of a young gay man beaten to death because of his sexuality.
Thanks for clarifying. Yeah, based on that information it's in very poor taste.
I guess the question is would it be poorly received if that incident wasn't in the back of people's minds? I think Snickers utilize well known people to try and avoid criticism. It's arguable that the Betty White ad I posted is both sexist and ageist but because it's Betty White, everyone gets the joke. If it were some random old lady people might perceive it differently.