Exactly the same? We've all had Europe games.
Chelsea are the only team if I remember rightly who have faced more than 1 of the big six since the start of the season
How could you possibly be content with this?
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Exactly the same? We've all had Europe games.
Chelsea are the only team if I remember rightly who have faced more than 1 of the big six since the start of the season
No, it hasn't been the same, all the other title contenders have had tougher matchups so far compared to us. We've had a super easy schedule to start the season with in comparison. Chelsea have played Liverpool (away), Arsenal (away), Spurs (away), and City at home today. City have played Chelsea (away), Leicester (away), Spurs (away), and Arsenal (home). You could discount Arsenal there, and that's still a significantly tougher schedule so far. Liverpool are the only other team who have had a relatively easy start in the PL, but they've also played Chelsea already. We haven't played any of the top teams yet.
We've achieved this 3 times in 29 seasons of PL. 07/08, 08/09 and 11/12.
We have not played one of City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal or leicster.
I don't remember that one.
Solskjaer keeps saying we've made progress and a lot of us have believed it. But in all honesty have we? We've gone from not winning the league to still not winning the league. Also we haven't won a trophy for four years and Solskjaer has been in charge for nearly three of those.
The football is probably better but still not as good as it could be. The constant insistence on the double pivot is just so we simply don't get beaten when in some games it's not needed and is too restricted.
The football is probably better but still not as good as it could be. The constant insistence on the double pivot is just so we simply don't get beaten when in some games it's not needed and is too restricted.
Reminds me a bit of England under Southgate where the goal is not to concede. Especially with the double pivot to protect the defense and then through the brilliance of the front four you score a kind of lucky goal. Then the opposing team attacks and this leaves space for the counter.
When teams sit back we are shite though. When we play teams that attack us, we look better.
When teams sit back we are shite though. When we play teams that attack us, we look better.
You seriously don't think the league is miles stronger than 2010, for example?Like Sheffield United and West Brom last season and Norwich this
Many of these are thanks to City playing with a FIFA All-Stars team. Liverpool did have an amazing season that one year. Do you disagree with my claim the league miles stronger than it used to be? Results seem much harder to predict.
must watch for every underperformer of us.
I'm exaggerating a bit perhaps, I don't have the stats in front of me. I recall some extremely lopsided games two decades ago. That's a fine Stat you've come up with though.
For the record I'm not one who likes Ole in charge, but I'm assuming our approaches for better managers have been unsuccessful. He's a decent caretaker manager until we can find the right person, but I don't see him winning multiple league titles and getting to CL finals.
Don’t check to see how we did against Sheff United and Baggies last season whatever you doLike Sheffield United and West Brom last season and Norwich this
They weren't "waltzing through our midfield". They created a few chances largely through St.Maximin's and Almiron's speed and skill, which they do every game and against everyone.
So you agree then
Call it what you want. They were breaking through us with ease just like Wolves did and others do.
Are people that thick or just trolling when they say shit like, how we are on same amount of points as other top teams but fans claim that we are playing piss poor? Result and performance aint the same shit, guess people forgot that in our away winning streak we have games like last season vs BHA away, when they wiped the floor with us.
Sir Alex is the only manager that has survived a sack under Ronaldo after a trophyless season. One thing I'm 100% sure of is CR7 won't accept playing Europa League Football considering he's literally nicknamed Mr Champions League. If we lose on Wednesday and the prospect of dropping out the group stages becomes real Ole will be in big trouble just like Sarri, Pirlo and Pellegrini in 2010. We probably sack him a little later on while the group is salvageable
The funniest thing is watching us press. We don't know what the feck we are doing?
How often do we actually perform well for the majority of a game? Should we really be expecting to have a dodgy first half (at least) most games? Because that's generally how it seems to go more often than not.
I just want to enjoy watching the majority of our games, I don't think that's too much to ask.
The last good game I remember us playing well minute 1 to minute 90 is the City win 2-0. After that, I don't know.
I think you're wrong there.
I actually do think Ronaldo is the only presence around the club that might actually be able to influence things. The usual metrics the club uses to assess performance are Top 4 and ???????? with the ??????? making up the vast majority of it. However, Ronaldo is the sort of voice that the club hierarchy are likely to listen to if he were to voice some discontent. I certainly don't think he's going to be happy with a potential Europa League run and top 4 battle.
Ive been saying this too. Last year the excuse was, McFred and the double pivot only exist because they have to baby sit the most expensive defender on the planet because he hasnt got a world class partner.
So this year he has that partner, but surprise Ole still plays a double pivot that baby sits the defence in every bloody game.
They have been playing big games against other title contenders. We haven't.
Some of them showed that they can go on a title winning run of form. So they're not really in form. They also have trophies to show for it to build up belief. Go figure.
Our match-going fans didn't even turn on the toxic one nor Moyes.
It'd take a monstrous collapse from us for the Glazers to act and it won't happen, because our team has too much quality.
We might be stuck in football hell. Not good enough to contend for top honors, but not poor enough to incite change from the board.
I highly doubt Ronaldo will be satisfied with a mere top 4 battle if it pans out that way.
Even at 36, he has way higher standards than that.
We've only won 1 of our last 4, and that was by virtue of Noble missing a late penalty (credit to DDG). Were playing very poorly, are fortunate that 2 of those losses came in cup competitions with respect to the league. Were going to waste this team if we dont get rid of Ole.
I’ve feared this since Jan 2020, the squad has too many good players to ever do poorly enough for the board or enough fans to call for a change, yet too lacking on the coaching side to ever get the side challenging for big trophies.
We’re stuck in football limbo, always doing just enough to get enough fans and the board on side thinking that “one more position filled will be the secret”, then we fill that position and it’s another position, and so on and so on. These days it’s Declan Rice that’s somehow suddenly gonna make this football just work and us start challenging for top honours.
Next year it’ll be a new keeper, then a new striker again, then a new right back etc etc
I'll figure that one out for you. We've had far easier fixtures in the first 6 matchdays whereas our rivals have had a rougher ride (with as many points and better performances).
League Cup is meaningless. We have our eyes set in bigger things, apparently.
Pretty much. All depends on the Glazers' ambitions.
Are people really making the argument that we are one point from the top after the games we had? Let's see where we are after next 5 games.
Plus the issue is performance. It's nearly October and we had probably 2 good half till now. Rest of the time we were hanging out for our lives. Table position could have been much worse and certainly doesn't reflect our performance
Plus the issue is performance. It's nearly October and we had probably 2 good half till now. Rest of the time we were hanging out for our lives. Table position could have been much worse and certainly doesn't reflect our performance
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Atleast the boys tried!
Ole is kinda guy who doesn't move much in the office, but puts in huge sales at key apraisal moments. People will remain undecided for a long time before realizing the productivity isn't optimal.
This is something people are forgetting. I said after we signed him that Ronaldo was a blessing and curse for Ole because on the pitch he'll get goals but off the pitch any dissatisfaction he'll have will be listened to more earnestly by players because he's Ronaldo and The Glazers because he's a bigger money making machine for them than Ole at this point. People here thinking Ole will just have it easy if he finishes trophyless or loses again in the CL are in for a rude(or pleasant) shock
If we continue to lose I hope you are right but I'm afraid you are not. I get your point about Ronaldo being the one player who can make glazers listen. But I fear Glazers prefer to be absentee owners, do minimum necessary, let things meander till the end of the season when we are out of tip 4 to sack him.
I think the first big disaster will be when we are out of the CL group. I don't see them doing anything there. They will waste another season.
And then at the end of the season, once we finish without a trophy but in top 4, what do they do then?
How we can spend so much money and got outplayed by Wolves, Southampton, Villa, Young Boys and West Ham is beyond me.
We are easily one of the highest spenders in world football since SAF retired. The scale of mismanagement has not happened before in the history of football. We are lucky that Man Utd is big enough not to go under.
We are the laughing stock of world football. We have the highest spending but play negative disjointed football.
Apart from Ole, we need to look at Glazer, Ed, Murtough and the management team. Who is making the call? Who is planning the long term future of the club? Is this the manager they are happy with? Is this the style of negative football they are happy with? What is their vision for the club? Top 4 is good enough?
When is the next Glazer dialogue with the fans again? These issues need to be addressed with a clear strategy to achieve it.
We are easily one of the highest spenders in world football since SAF retired. The scale of mismanagement has not happened before in the history of football. We are lucky that Man Utd is big enough not to go under.
We are the laughing stock of world football. We have the highest spending but play negative disjointed football.
Apart from Ole, we need to look at Glazer, Ed, Murtough and the management team. Who is making the call? Who is planning the long term future of the club? Is this the manager they are happy with? Is this the style of negative football they are happy with? What is their vision for the club? Top 4 is good enough?
When is the next Glazer dialogue with the fans again? These issues need to be addressed with a clear strategy to achieve it.