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I don’t understand the criticism of Arteta on this forum. As stated before, he is an good manager and what he is doing at Arsenal is installing the right philosophy to get them back to where they should. I see who are criticizing him though and then I don’t become too surprised.
Hes a shite classless manager who's underperforming considering the money he's spent.
 

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Yea he’s an awful manager, but the amount of fawning from pundits and Arsenal fans is arguably worse.
 

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Not gonna lie, That Martinelli Smith-Rowe Saka trio has serious potential. Rest of the team is meh but if they keep those three fit they can do some damage. They seem to make the right decisions a lot of the time. All very silky, quick and with good technique. cnuts.
 

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That should be enough to secure his position until the end of the season. Thank god.
 

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They've got some really exciting young talents. So glad Arteta is their manager so they probably won't fulfil their potential.
 

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He is a very clever guy, first he takes his side to a low and then wins some matches and all look great. I always maintain his greatest achievement with arsenal is lowering their standard that even a 6th position will be celebrated.
 

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Very strong performance tonight, they’ve often struggled massively to create chances this season but it wasn’t a problem for them tonight. It’ll be interesting to see if they can build on that without sacrificing defensive stability.

They’re the youngest side in the league and it shows sometimes, often retreat into themselves when trying to hold on to a lead, so the red was pretty handy for them tonight.
 

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I don’t understand the criticism of Arteta on this forum. As stated before, he is an good manager and what he is doing at Arsenal is installing the right philosophy to get them back to where they should.
They don't play very good football.
 

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Yea he’s an awful manager, but the amount of fawning from pundits and Arsenal fans is arguably worse.
The hilarious thing he's (literally) brought himself more time with these signings he's made. Even at the end of a match they won easily the commentary team went out of the way to list the age of the players.

Unless he's has a massive collapse he's going to be able to hide behind the work in progress line for the next 2-3 season's.

I don't understand the power he seems to have, if he was a club legend you can almost get it but he's not.
 

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He is a very clever guy, first he takes his side to a low and then wins some matches and all look great. I always maintain his greatest achievement with arsenal is lowering their standard that even a 6th position will be celebrated.
I honestly don't get it. They wouldn't accept just 4th under Wenger and that was with arguably weaker squads for the last few years.
 

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I honestly don't get it. They wouldn't accept just 4th under Wenger and that was with arguably weaker squads for the last few years.
Consistent 4th place and regular decent runs in the CL. All with the tiniest fraction of the investment under Arteta. Wenger was sacked with a view to someone else taking them to the next level. Yet his time in charge seems like a golden era compared to these last 3 years. Absolutely incredible this guy still has a job.
 

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Positive GD, we are firmly back in the top 6. Glory to Mikel !
 

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I honestly don't get it. They wouldn't accept just 4th under Wenger and that was with arguably weaker squads for the last few years.
It's amazing how consistent Wenger made them despite poor investments, it took me a while to realize that he wasn't doing a poor job as a coach. I wonder what he could do with their current team.
 

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It's amazing how consistent Wenger made them despite poor investments, it took me a while to realize that he wasn't doing a poor job as a coach. I wonder what he could do with their current team.
No worries, people did the same thing with Pochettino. Not many people have the capabilities to see beyond black and white. In this instant some fans gets comfortable and believe that their team are better than what they really are. Typically the team that spends the most and spend it on the right talent are the ones are the most successful. Their are a very few outliers but that is how football is runned.
 

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No worries, people did the same thing with Pochettino. Not many people have the capabilities to see beyond black and white. In this instant some fans gets comfortable and believe that their team are better than what they really are. Typically the team that spends the most and spend it on the right talent are the ones are the most successful. Their are a very few outliers but that is how football is runned.
Don't respond to my posts.
 

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Arteta's man management skill need to improve as so far players he has frozen out for different reasons includes Saliba, Maitland Niles, Guendouzi, Ozil, and lately Aubameyang. On the other hand the young players are playing very well at the moment.
 

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I don’t understand the criticism of Arteta on this forum. As stated before, he is an good manager and what he is doing at Arsenal is installing the right philosophy to get them back to where they should. I see who are criticizing him though and then I don’t become too surprised. Their next major transfer window will be important for them if they want to challenge for top four consistently. Getting rid of Auba and getting someone like Vlasic or Lewin will be a good step forward for them
Easier to say that now but look at how many Arsenal fans wanted him gone at various points
 

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Easier to say that now but look at how many Arsenal fans wanted him gone at various points
i don't know about others but unless he is replaced with Conte back in summer i don't see better candidate available out there.
 

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i don't know about others but unless he is replaced with Conte back in summer i don't see better candidate available out there.
Right now no, but pretty sure this time last year he was called into question and earlier in the season at least
 

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They’re 6th if Spurs and United win their games in hand. Two clubs who fired their managers because results were so bad. Bravo Mikel. Getting them back where they belong.
I’m not defending Arteta as I’m still on the fence about him but we are underachieving and they are where they should be.
The fact they lost their first 3 and even lost to us they shouldn’t be near us.
We are far superior to them but it’s don’t to us being poor than them being great
 

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I’m not defending Arteta as I’m still on the fence about him but we are underachieving and they are where they should be.
The fact they lost their first 3 and even lost to us they shouldn’t be near us
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We are far superior to them but it’s don’t to us being poor than them being great
Well, exactly. And we fired our manager. They should be far ahead of us after our awful start to this season under Ole. Yet all we have to do is win our game in hand and they’re below us in the table. Which says it all really.
 

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Watch the game tonight and besides the gift of the referee for the penalty and red card arsenal played really well.

I don't think Arteta is a manager capable of reaching titles with Arsenal but I do see them fight for top 4-6 with him.
 

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Well, exactly. And we fired our manager. They should be far ahead of us after our awful start to this season under Ole. Yet all we have to do is win our game in hand and they’re below us in the table. Which says it all really.
United lost to Liverpool, City, Villa, Watford ( :lol: ) and Leicester.
Arsenal lost to Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Everton (:lol:) and Brentford.

We're all exactly where we deserve to be. It's weird how you all sound more angry at our table position than actual Arsenal fans. We'll probably finish 5th or 6th if we don't implode because there is at least 4 clubs with better players than us at the moment. Simple as that. If spending 160M was enough to comfortably be in the top 4, everybody would do it, it would pay for itself.
We had an absolutely rotten squad in terms of numbers/positions/ability and age. We will need and have 1 or 2 more windows of heavy investment. Will they be led by Arteta ? No idea, probably not. But whenever he gets the boot, he will leave behind a healthy group of players to work with.

I can agree with a lot of things that are not good enough with Arteta but right now who would we get that could be a unanimous choice ? Conte was available to both clubs and we let him grab his 20M check from Spurs for various reasons. We're sticking with the "internal cheap and young solution", you went for Ragnick and his "demands". To each his own.
 

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Watch the game tonight and besides the gift of the referee for the penalty and red card arsenal played really well.
That's a clear penalty, the tackle is anything but controlled, the fact that the defender touches the ball doesn't allow him to take everything after that. We're not in 1990 anymore.
 

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They're a good side, very young as well. Room for a lot of improvement but I think they're in a better state than most people think. Just important they hold onto players like Saka and Smith-Rowe. However, I don't rate Odegaard.
 

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Always feels like they are just on a similar trajectory to United under Ole (minus the cup semis/final and second place/top 4 finishes).

I mean in the sense they look rubbish for a bit then go on a bit of a run then go back again. Rinse repeat.

Just don't see the progress.
 

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That's a clear penalty, the tackle is anything but controlled, the fact that the defender touches the ball doesn't allow him to take everything after that. We're not in 1990 anymore.
Well have to agree to disagree on this one mate, I'm of the idea that if the defender gets the ball first then the subsecuential contact is allowed when its not a wreckless challenge. I really dont know what the defenders are supposed to do? if the player has his leg close to the ball it's almost impossible to get it without afterwards contact.
 

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Arteta's man management skill need to improve as so far players he has frozen out for different reasons includes Saliba, Maitland Niles, Guendouzi, Ozil, and lately Aubameyang. On the other hand the young players are playing very well at the moment.
This actually doesn't sound that bad on paper to be honest (except I personally liked Guendouzi's play style but could see he had a weird attitude).

Anyway, Are arsenal fans starting to peak across London and wondering what life would be like with Vieira as manager instead of Arteta - or are people happy with Arteta's work?
 

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This actually doesn't sound that bad on paper to be honest (except I personally liked Guendouzi's play style but could see he had a weird attitude).

Anyway, Are arsenal fans starting to peak across London and wondering what life would be like with Vieira as manager instead of Arteta - or are people happy with Arteta's work?
Very few fans are happy with Arteta's work. But if we're around the top four, it'd be hard to make a case for him to get the sack. This year the expectation was always a top 6 finish, we're still missing a midfielder and a striker. If we get both of those in next year the target can be top four and a sack.
 

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it took me a while to realize that he wasn't doing a poor job as a coach.
I got my current tag for (persistently) arguing on Wenger's behalf despite the entire forum believing he was holding them back and there was someone (magical) out there who elevate them despite their meagre spending.

As much as I believe half of the criticism aimed at Arteta in this thread is fueled by some need to have him treated the same way Ole was... They'd be much better with Wenger in charge. No sympathy for them though, they hounded him out.
 

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I got my current tag for (persistently) arguing on Wenger's behalf despite the entire forum believing he was holding them back and there was someone (magical) out there who elevate them despite their meagre spending.

As much as I believe half of the criticism aimed at Arteta in this thread is fueled by some need to have him treated the same way Ole was... They'd be much better with Wenger in charge. No sympathy for them though, they hounded him out.
I don't agree, the game well and truly passed Wenger by almost as much as it has Jose.

There was a reason fans of both our clubs and more were chanting that they wanted him to stay.