I thought it was coming, gonna miss being at the football but I think it’s the right move.Wales and Scotland will now play BCD from Boxing day. England surely will follow soon.
I thought it was coming, gonna miss being at the football but I think it’s the right move.Wales and Scotland will now play BCD from Boxing day. England surely will follow soon.
On that background - that is a quote from the Guardian Covid News from some minutes ago - it probably would be smarter...I thought it was coming, gonna miss being at the football but I think it’s the right move.
That’s grim . I remember last year the principality stadium was actually turned into a field hospital. Makes sense.On that background - that is a quote from the Guardian Covid News from some minutes ago - it probably would be smarter...
NHS leaders in England have reportedly been told to make plans for temporary “field hospitals” in hospital car parks in preparation for the expected surge of Covid patients over the next five weeks.
Health Service Journal reports NHS England held a series of calls on Tuesday during which they asked local leaders to review the capacity of their mortuaries.
Leaders were also asked to identify hard standing areas where temporary “field hospitals” could potentially be erected, which would effectively be large “tents” with a capacity for around 100 patients, according to one source.
it won’t stop the spread of covid though. My works shut down with a outbreak of 11 people and every single person Barr two people are vaccinated.They should make it mandatory to be fully vaccinated unless for valid medical reasons.
If only some of that 300 bn quid spent on Covid restrictions instead went on building new wards and paying docs and nurses 50% more.On that background - that is a quote from the Guardian Covid News from some minutes ago - it probably would be smarter...
NHS leaders in England have reportedly been told to make plans for temporary “field hospitals” in hospital car parks in preparation for the expected surge of Covid patients over the next five weeks.
Health Service Journal reports NHS England held a series of calls on Tuesday during which they asked local leaders to review the capacity of their mortuaries.
Leaders were also asked to identify hard standing areas where temporary “field hospitals” could potentially be erected, which would effectively be large “tents” with a capacity for around 100 patients, according to one source.
Jabs won't completely stop it but they do significantly lower how many people catch and spread the virus. This is absolutely key to avoiding further waves and the NHS being overwhelmed.it won’t stop the spread of covid though. My works shut down with a outbreak of 11 people and every single person Barr two people are vaccinated.
it won’t stop covid. Nothing will stop it from spreading and people getting it. The vaccine makes your symptoms less severe, for sure.. but it doesn’t stop it from spreading. My step dad has had all three jabs and currently has it, he feels pretty awful still.
92% of players and staff in football are vaccinated now.. still had 90 positive cases and your telling me only unvaccinated have it?
it’s the winter. It’s a highly contagious virus.. it was always going to spike this time of year. Watch it improve in the summer, just like this year.
one thing is for sure, it’s not going anywhere and if each and every human on the planet were triple jabbed..covid would still be rife.
Is it just a payment problem? The biggest problem is that there aren't enough people with the right qualifications available - and when you import them from other countries that just puts the problem from one side to the other. For the Covid stations you need people that are already specialised.If only some of that 300 bn quid spent on Covid restrictions instead went on building new wards and paying docs and nurses 50% more.
Now we’re back to WWII hospital ideas and soon NHS claps! More short term planning is definitely what we need, our leaders have learnt so much.
Isn’t in part due to the quarantine rules of unvaccinated players? If an unvaccinated player has a close contact who tests positive, they themselves have to isolate for 10 days, even if they test negative.With the vaccinated players still testing positive (I know the vaccine isn't a cure) it means even if every player in the football league was vaccinated, games would still potentially be postponed.
Therefore, my question is, why is there such an uproar regards players who haven't been vaccinated? I know the severity of the virus could be a lot less if you were to get it again, but are you less likely to get Covid if you have been vaccinated? If so, then could you please provide the statistics.
Two things. The first is the issue that an unvaccinated player has to quarantine when they come into contact with a positive case, even if they test negative. So a lot of games will be called off because players who don’t even have the virus are isolating.With the vaccinated players still testing positive (I know the vaccine isn't a cure) it means even if every player in the football league was vaccinated, games would still potentially be postponed.
Therefore, my question is, why is there such an uproar regards players who haven't been vaccinated? I know the severity of the virus could be a lot less if you were to get it again, but are you less likely to get Covid if you have been vaccinated? If so, then could you please provide the statistics.
Isn’t in part due to the quarantine rules of unvaccinated players? If an unvaccinated player has a close contact who tests positive, they themselves have to isolate for 10 days, even if they test negative.
Thanks for your replies.Two things. The first is the issue that an unvaccinated player has to quarantine when they come into contact with a positive case, even if they test negative. So a lot of games will be called off because players who don’t even have the virus are isolating.
Secondly, the whole point of calling games off is for player safety. As the virus spreads, so does the chances of a player getting seriously ill, and that chance is much higher if they aren’t vaccinated. If a situation arises where a Premier League footballer is having to go to hospital because they didn’t get a COVID vaccination, then there should be uproar. Obviously that alone wouldn’t overwhelm the NHS, but these fit and healthy young men can almost elimate that possibility by getting jabbed, so why wouldn’t they?
That’s before you get into other arguments such as them being role models, or that 3 jabs appears to stop symptomatic COVID altogether which would help reduce the spread.
Who’s gonna work in the field hospitals? Are they staffing them with Mannequins?Is it just a payment problem? The biggest problem is that there aren't enough people with the right qualifications available - and when you import them from other countries that just puts the problem from one side to the other.
I think they were never needed and diverting resources from existing hospitals was deemed counter productive. An intensive care unit bed is more than just a bed as it turns out. As you say they couldn't necessarily staff them.What's happened to those Nightingale hospitals? Last year that was part of the Governments self-congratulatory narrative. I know they didn't have enough nurses, doctors to staff them but have they all been dismantled?
We heard this was case thanks to the South African woman who treated omicron patients early on. It is a mild covid she said but that didnt stop the hysteria from people and governments who didnt listen to the doctor. They chose to hear the alarmists instead wich is sad.Omicron Hospitalization Risk Is Two-Thirds Lower Than Delta, Study Shows
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-22/omicron-hospitalization-risk-two-thirds-below-delta-study-shows#:~:text=Researchers%20in%20Scotland%20suggest%20omicron,though%20it's%20also%20more%20contagious.
Hmmm this could still overwhelm the NHS through sheer infectious volume but it's also at an individual level much less scary. Hard to know how that plays out. People might just stop caring...
People stopped caring a long time ago.Omicron Hospitalization Risk Is Two-Thirds Lower Than Delta, Study Shows
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-22/omicron-hospitalization-risk-two-thirds-below-delta-study-shows#:~:text=Researchers%20in%20Scotland%20suggest%20omicron,though%20it's%20also%20more%20contagious.
Hmmm this could still overwhelm the NHS through sheer infectious volume but it's also at an individual level much less scary. Hard to know how that plays out. People might just stop caring...
Leeds calling off a game as expected. With their form and injuries they’d be stupid not to try.
Oh shit here we go again
That's a bit of a weird one. Presumably it's driven by Leeds but I thought their issues were around injuries rather than covid as they have a high vaccination rate.Leeds calling off a game as expected. With their form and injuries they’d be stupid not to try.
Yes, Rangnick press conference at 15:30.I'm confused as the match day thread isn't updating. Is our Newcastle game still on?
BBC article says that their training ground has been closed, so have to presume its covid mainly.That's a bit of a weird one. Presumably it's driven by Leeds but I thought their issues were around injuries rather than covid as they have a high vaccination rate.
This seems a bit tenuous. Their issues appear to be mainly due to injuries but closing the training ground is likely what swung it.BBC article says that their training ground has been closed, so have to presume its covid mainly.
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Learn go quietly so the rest of us don’t have to listen to those. Or somethingBy learn to live with it I assume you mean learn to die with it?
Get your hands ready, your claps will power the NHSIf only some of that 300 bn quid spent on Covid restrictions instead went on building new wards and paying docs and nurses 50% more.
Now we’re back to WWII hospital ideas and soon NHS claps! More short term planning is definitely what we need, our leaders have learnt so much.
It's not that simple. If it's a third of the virulence but three times the infectiveness, mathematically you can end up in the same place in terms of hospitalisations and deaths. And if you then refuse to lock down on top then you can end up in a world of trouble.We heard this was case thanks to the South African woman who treated omicron patients early on. It is a mild covid she said but that didnt stop the hysteria from people and governments who didnt listen to the doctor. They chose to hear the alarmists instead wich is sad.
We haven’t closed anything but we are training with an ultra thin squad, having to use our youth team and having to rush back people like DCL just to play which doesn’t seem fair as he will be classed as one of our ‘fit’ players when he is nowhere near match fit. Doesn’t seem fair to me but we just have to do what we can if it still goes ahead.Did Everton have to close their training ground a couple of days before that match?
You think not having a game against a depleted Leeds team works in your favour? It was a home walkover, probably 5 or 6 nil job.That actually works in our favor. We'll be fresh for Leicester on the 28th whilst they have to play on Boxing Day against City. It does mean that Robertson misses the Chelsea game now though.
I suspect you'll suddenly get a couple more covid cases to sneak over the postponement threshold.We haven’t closed anything but we are training with an ultra thin squad, having to use our youth team and having to rush back people like DCL just to play which doesn’t seem fair as he will be classed as one of our ‘fit’ players when he is nowhere near match fit. Doesn’t seem fair to me but we just have to do what we can if it still goes ahead.
Yeah but I'd still back us against Leeds at home. That game will take place at a time after AFCON and we now have a break until the 28th, then a five day gap before we play Chelsea.You think not having a game against a depleted Leeds team works in your favour? It was a home walkover, probably 5 or 6 nil job.
Instead You'll have it moved to a midweek in a packed schedule later on with Leeds back to full strength.
Van D has missed 2 games (3 with yesterday) already hasn't he?Yeah but I'd still back us against Leeds at home. That game will take place at a time after AFCON and we now have a break until the 28th, then a five day gap before we play Chelsea.
We would've been without Fabinho, Thiago and Van Dijk on Boxing Day due to Covid.