Gaming PlayStation 5

Alock1 said:
Yeah i don't think that's driving motivation either, though of course they would do it if Sony would have it as it'd be a quick way to increase their subscriber numbers. But they're thinking long term beyond consoles into pure subscriptions on whatever device people wanna play on, likely on streaming sticks and native apps in smart tvs. At that point gamepass will be like Netflix, where pretty much every gamer will almost have to get it.
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That's the thing I think if you asked Microsoft they would gladly put it on a Playstation. As you say we know the future plan is and why wouldn't they want it on 140 odd million PS4/5s. It would probably become the console with the most Game Pass subs come from. As we all know Sony would say no, but I do wonder if this deal changes that.
 
Bosws87 said:
My only thought is long term Microsoft don’t see consoles or making them as thing and intend to go strictly into gamepass and publishing.

It certainly will be interesting to see what happens the short term is obvious instead of creating and supporting new talent they just wanna stop the competition.
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I think that's undoubtedly the case.

I can't support the way they're going about it atm. They're attempting to monopolise the industry to kill competition and then they can release their streaming services everywhere. At that point gamers will be at the whims of a big tech company.

I've always thought there were nefarious purposes behind Gamepass.
 
Berbaclass said:
How much cash on hand do they have?
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Sony vs Microsoft is incomparable. MS have hundreds of billions in the bank, Sony have been struggling to make profits for the last decade and it's the PS that's been heavily responsible for their profits. MS can crush Sony easily if they want to, and it looks like they want to.
 
Alock1 said:
Nah. Bethesda was great. This is probably a little far for my liking. A bigger deal was inevitable but I wasn't expecting Activision.
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I'm going to check resetters...

b82REZ said:
I think that's undoubtedly the case.

I can't support the way they're going about it atm. They're attempting to monopolise the industry to kill competition and then they can release their streaming services everywhere. At that point gamers will be at the whims of a big tech company.

I've always thought there were nefarious purposes behind Gamepass.
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Loveable Phil ain't about all that though surely?
 
Rooney1987 said:
That's the thing I think if you asked Microsoft they would gladly put it on a Playstation. As you say we know the future plan is and why wouldn't they want it on 140 odd million PS4/5s. It would probably become the console with the most Game Pass subs come from. As we all know Sony would say no, but I do wonder if this deal changes that.
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The problem with Game Pass on Playstation, at least for Sony, is that it would mean a major part of the PS store revenue would be lost and turned into sub revenue for MS. I don't see how Sony could survive something like that. There'd be no point staying in the console industry for Sony that way.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Sony vs Microsoft is incomparable. MS have hundreds of billions in the bank, Sony have been struggling to make profits for the last decade and it's the PS that's been heavily responsible for their profits. MS can crush Sony easily if they want to, and it looks like they want to.
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I mean it is comparable, a quick google says Microsoft had cash reserves of 132 Billion in comparison to 44 Billion of Sony. It's more obvious but not absolutely huge.
 
Berbaclass said:
I mean it is comparable, a quick google says Microsoft had cash reserves of 132 Billion in comparison to 44 Billion of Sony. It's more obvious but not absolutely huge.
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There’s no way Microsoft just spunked 70 billion (half their money) if they aren’t looking to crush PlayStation I’m afraid.
 
Berbaclass said:
I mean it is comparable, a quick google says Microsoft had cash reserves of 132 Billion in comparison to 44 Billion of Sony. It's more obvious but not absolutely huge.
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It is slightly more complicated than that I think. You'd need to look at Sony Interactive Entertainment specifically, not Sony as a whole. I don't know exactly how it works at MS, but it's worth bearing in mind that unlike Sony, Microsoft is a software company so maybe they treat their gaming division differently than Sony does with SIE. In any case, in terms of spending power, it's not exactly a contest.
 
Ainu said:
It is slightly more complicated than that I think. You'd need to look at Sony Interactive Entertainment specifically, not Sony as a whole. I don't know exactly how it works at MS, but it's worth bearing in mind that unlike Sony, Microsoft is a software company so maybe they treat their gaming division differently than Sony does with SIE. In any case, in terms of spending power, it's not exactly a contest.
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Fair point.
 
Berbaclass said:
I mean it is comparable, a quick google says Microsoft had cash reserves of 132 Billion in comparison to 44 Billion of Sony. It's more obvious but not absolutely huge.
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It is huge. Microsoft absolutely dwarf Sony year on year for net income, market caps, sales etc. They are a far, far, far more powerful company.
 
Massive Spanner said:
It is huge. Microsoft absolutely dwarf Sony year on year for net income, market caps, sales etc. They are a far, far, far more powerful company.
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I asked how much cash on hand they had. Simple question. I was told the difference is incomparable when in reality it's not really.
 
Welp. That's a pretty big move by Microsoft. I don't really play Activision and Blizzard games so it doesn't directly affect me but there's every chance Microsoft swallowing up all these big names publishers somehow makes it harder for Sony to continue making the games I enjoy like The Last Of Us, Ghost Of Tsushima, Unchartered etc.
 
That is absolutely insane. $70B is unfathomable money. This is very bad for Sony. I think it is for the entire gaming industry. Microsoft are buying the industry.
 
Bosws87 said:
My only thought is long term Microsoft don’t see consoles or making them as thing and intend to go strictly into gamepass and publishing.

It certainly will be interesting to see what happens the short term is obvious instead of creating and supporting new talent they just wanna stop the competition.
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Yeah, while Phil Spencer comes out and paints it like a pro-consumer move. Never got why people would fawn over him. These companies don't give a single feck about you.
 
Finally completed Kena. That Rot Boss finale was insane. Took me about 30 attempts and about 4 different sittings to finally crack it. As usual once you do it you realise it wasn’t as bad as you’d made out the previous 30 times haha. Might try and go for some of the collectibles but tbh the plat seems beyond me so might not bother do it all.
 
You can get 3 months of EA Play for £3.99 currently. Seems like a great deal. I may get it to play the Mass Effect Legendary Edition.
 
NinjaZombie said:
Welp. That's a pretty big move by Microsoft. I don't really play Activision and Blizzard games so it doesn't directly affect me but there's every chance Microsoft swallowing up all these big names publishers somehow makes it harder for Sony to continue making the games I enjoy like The Last Of Us, Ghost Of Tsushima, Unchartered etc.
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This is my concern. If Microsoft creates a exclusive domain for Activision Blizzard games resulting in a hugely dominant Xbox on the market then PS5 or PS6 ends up with a smaller user base and less people to buy those PS exclusives. It makes it more like PS becomes like Nintendo with a hardcore fanbase that only buy the console for those exclusives.
 
sparx99 said:
This is my concern. If Microsoft creates a exclusive domain for Activision Blizzard games resulting in a hugely dominant Xbox on the market then PS5 or PS6 ends up with a smaller user base and less people to buy those PS exclusives. It makes it more like PS becomes like Nintendo with a hardcore fanbase that only buy the console for those exclusives.
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They will have to go a long way to take that much of a market share. As it stands Playstation still has the best exclusive games and the bigger player base. These moves will make an impact but the game quality will be the real deal breaker. Sony will absolutely smash it this year with Horizon and GOW.
 
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