For a lot of people, that's true. However, there's clearly a very large audience that doesn't care as much about the quality of the games and just wants to play the latest CoD with their mates. Those people will have to move to the Xbox eco system when the deal is finalised, so that's an instant impact on the player base.
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
Nope.
It's only some of the money they already had in the bank and despite Activsion-Blizzard's terrible reputation of late they still turn over a ~$2bn net profit a year.
That sounds like heaven! Leave PlayStation with the decent games.
It is around their yearly profit. They are a 2.5T company, an absolute behemoth.
70 billion is a massive sum of money, but they can easily afford it. The feckers are buying the industry and are becoming like Disney in movies. Unless Google or Apple enter the game.
Sony's exclusives do well and it will obviously take time but Nintendo appeared dominant in the 90's. It's not that far-fetched that by the late 2020's there is a dominant Xbox and PS operating in a smaller space. I also just don't think its good for the industry to consolidate like this. We want more companies with different ideas and philosophies making games. Hollywood consolidation has resulted in much more generic fare at the box office and I fear for games in the same way.
Especially for a company that producers shooters....
I mean Sony's first party games still shit over nearly all activision games... I wouldn't be too concerned...
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44 total hours, of which 12 came between Christmas and NY when I got the PS5 and hammered Astro and Spider-Man.
906 hours total. 382 on PS5 games and 524 on PS4. Spread over 48 games.
1. Assassin’s Creed Valhalla (98 hours)
2. ME Legendary Edition (73 hours)
3. Yakuza: Like a Dragon (65 hours)
4. Ni No Kuni II (60 hours)
5. The Witcher 3 (51 hours)
23 platinum, 137 gold, 306 silver, 1,013 bronze for a total of 1,479 trophies.
Man, I loved “working” from home earlier this year.
What's the going rate for a used ps5? I found an add selling it for 360 quid. Feels too cheap.
At least they can't buy the indie market
There's no guarantee that it will stay that way, like any business they could lose money at any time, especially if things are mis-managed. I'm not sure how long the likes of COD/Candy Crush etc are going to captivate the public. I'm shocked that they're even still popular TBH.
It's already been confirmed they don't intend to make COD exclusive. Whether this only means for the deals that have already been agreed with Sony or they will publish it across all platforms like they have the Minecraft remains to be seen in the long term.
Thing is are they still a 2bn net profit company if they take one of there major markets out of it.
621 hours with 421 spent on NBA 2K21 and 70 on NBA 2K22... I need to add more diversity to my library.
It wont be long term, they are talking about current CoD imo...
Doesn't work for me
For me perosnally I couldn't care less. I like some Blizzard games (Hearthstone and Overwatch) but the Activision catalogue does nothing for me really.
Saying that they're hugely popular among casual gamers. MS have received quite a bit of backlash based on this acquisition and will want to have positive PR to attract more users.
I can see the big titles like COD remaining available everywhere. For this gen at least. I think the occasional time Activision publish something out of their normal wheelhouse it'll be Xbox/Gamepass exclusive.
I like your optimism..... most would be okay with timed exclusivity, but I have a feeling this is about full exclusivity going forward. Let's see... I'm not that fussed either tbf.
Are they any good? Was looking at the lastest one but there's a lot of awful user reviews online.
I’m glad. If only Sony were as consumer friendly. But we’ll see what happens when those agreements come to an end.
I reckon they keep COD multiplatform. Surely the exclusivity argument is far more relevant for single player games where they can't make extra money from microtransactions? Unless Microsoft really does just want to monopolise Sony out of the market, I suspect they will take the duel income from COD across consoles and then migrate games such as Overwatch 2 into exclusives.
Yeah it's nothing we didn't know or that wasn't obvious. Like Bethesda, deals that in place they honour (and who knows how far ahead Activision and Sony had a deal in place.. could be a good few years yet) and similar to ESO or Fallout 76, Warzone will stay on Playstation.
I do think there's a chance that multiplayer could stay on Playstation long term too. I wouldn't be as certain as others that it won't. Warzone and the multiplayer including battle pass are integrated so tightly. For Microsoft, exclusive campaigns (on gamepass), free multiplayer (on gamepass) and potentially guaranteed battle pass and exclusive tiers for GPU subscribers may well be enough of a pull without removing it from Playstation completely. Long term the marketing deal isn't in place for Sony and swings back with Xbox positioned as the best place to play COD. On PS they may even login with a single sign-on that is connected to gamepass/xbox account rather than battle net.
It also gives Microsoft a bit more power when it comes to third-party deals that Sony are making. We saw with Resident Evil Village? that Sony were putting clauses around not being on Gamepass for a period of time. 2nd party deals and timed exclusivity won't go away as Xbox do it too, but I do think Xbox might use it as a chip on some of that stuff.
I'd still lean to exclusivity in 2 or 3 years but there's a chance.
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I like them a lot… 2k21 was ruined by the fact they completely botched pick and roll defense and you could just get to the basket with ease. They fixed that in 2k22 but managed to ruin CPU offense but that can be fixed quite easily with sliders. I still think it’s one of the best sports games.
User scores are often dictated by online and MyCareer, none of which I’m really interested in. I only play MyNBA offline seasons.
I do think long term MS hope to choke Sony out of the console space and acquire every big dev.
But as they found with their attempts at introducing DRM on the Xbox One, one bad move can have long lasting ramifications on their image and PR.
I think they'll play nice this gen as they slowly start increasing the exclusivity on their platforms.
MS plan long-term has always been to get GP on as many platforms as possible.
If MS continue to acquire every big third party developer I can see Sony potentially take a NIntendo approach of having their own closed ecosystem where they specialise in their Hugh quality first party games. That'll be years away though.
Even after this deal MS are still a fair way behind Sony on gaming revenue.
Apple, Disney or Meta will acquire Sony or buy PlayStation at some point anyway I'd expect. Only deal challenge is with them being a Japanese company. Part of this move from Microsoft is no doubt pre emptive with that in mind.
Apple, Disney or Meta will acquire Sony or buy PlayStation at some point anyway I'd expect. Only deal challenge is with them being a Japanese company. Part of this move from Microsoft is no doubt pre emptive with that in mind.
I held the opinion when the deal happened that COD would remain on PlayStation. Don't know why, really, but I still think that will happen. And it has nothing to do with Phil Spencer coming out yesterday and saying it because I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I could throw him.
The doomsday merchants in various quarters of the internet who are proclaiming the demise of PlayStation are ridiculous though, regardless of whether COD remains on the platform or not. "It's over for PlayStation" Calm the feck down
Obviously losing COD will be a blow (the numbers tell you that) but I'm sure they'll survive. Would love for them to actually focus on a First Person multiplayer shooter now. I know others have tried to take on COD and have failed, but if ever there was a time to really go for it, it would be now.
The doomsday merchants in various quarters of the internet who are proclaiming the demise of PlayStation are ridiculous though, regardless of whether COD remains on the platform or not. "It's over for PlayStation" Calm the feck down
Obviously losing COD will be a blow (the numbers tell you that) but I'm sure they'll survive. Would love for them to actually focus on a First Person multiplayer shooter now. I know others have tried to take on COD and have failed, but if ever there was a time to really go for it, it would be now.
I held the opinion when the deal happened that COD would remain on PlayStation. Don't know why, really, but I still think that will happen. And it has nothing to do with Phil Spencer coming out yesterday and saying it because I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I could throw him.
The doomsday merchants in various quarters of the internet who are proclaiming the demise of PlayStation are ridiculous though, regardless of whether COD remains on the platform or not. "It's over for PlayStation" Calm the feck down
Obviously losing COD will be a blow (the numbers tell you that) but I'm sure they'll survive. Would love for them to actually focus on a First Person multiplayer shooter now. I know others have tried to take on COD and have failed, but if ever there was a time to really go for it, it would be now.
Yeah.. If they weren't already working on an FPS multiplayer franchise they certainly will be now.
Agreed, that commentary is silly, Sony are the biggest and even if in the future they aren't the market leader they will certainly be up there.
His desire to see it remain on the platform could well be "You can have it, but it's going to be through Game Pass on PlayStation, or not at all".
Is it time for Sony and Nintendo to do the unthinkable?
Eventually, maybe. No way he can enforce that currently. Sony still have contracts for timed exclusivity to some COD shit.
I also think Sony would give big Phil a polite feck off to such a proposal in the future. Especially if the rumours are true that Sony plan to create their own rental service to rival GP.
Is it time for Sony and Nintendo to do the unthinkable?
Nearly happened in the 90s.
They cannot. They have a higher market capitalisation (260B for Disney vs 140B for Sony), but Sony has higher revenues and higher profits, and Disney definitely does not have 200B or so to buy Sony. At best, they could do a 1.5-1 merge in favor of Disney.
On the other hand, Meta, Google, Apple, or Amazon could likely afford to buy Sony (in the case of later, funding it via Amazon shares) but I do not see Sony being interested in that for at least another few years. They totally dominated the last console war (more than double the sales of XBox) and despite that you cannot buy a PS5 cause of chip shortage, they still sold more than XBox console. I think they still have the better first-party games, and I am not sure how much long term these purchases will hurt them. For example, Fallout has gone to crap, and the last ES was in 2011, so Bethesda even going full Microsoft, won't hurt Sony too much. WoW was always a PC game so that won't hurt Sony. Call of Duty sure, but then Sony was never that big in first-person shooters (unlike Microsoft who has Halo and Gears). At the end of the day, despite the Bethesda and Activision Blizzard purchase, Microsoft Gaming will still have a lower revenue than Sony.
Saying that, obviously these purchases are putting Microsoft in a very good position to fight back after their defeat in the previous console. I still think that Sony are gonna win this console generation war, but it is going to be much closer, or probably a draw like with PS3-XBox 360.
It would also be interesting to see if Sony has any move. For example, buying SquareEnix and ensuring that FF, KH, DQ, TR and other games become exclusive. I do not expect a Sony-Nintendo merge, to be fair, totally different things.
Then there is always the possibility of a new player entering the scene (looking at Tencent).
NintonyIs it time for Sony and Nintendo to do the unthinkable?
Is it time for Sony and Nintendo to do the unthinkable?
This would be interesting however I’d imagine Sony would need to get its shit together given the fiasco with the PS 5 stock which is still ongoing.
Don’t think Nintendo would tolerate such amateurish production.
Fiasco? A little over a year since its launch, it's their fastest selling console ever despite ongoing global semiconductor shortages, which clearly seem to be affecting newer manufacturing lines more.
Absolute fiasco yes
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Meta buying Playstation would be pretty hilarious to be fair. It'd instantly go from one of the world's most beloved and loyal brands to one of the most hated.
Apple? Maybe, but unlikely, they're not as in to big acquisitions as Microsoft.
Disney? No chance, as Revan said, Sony would be impossible for them to acquire.
Also Sony would never willingly sell the Playstation brand or section, it's easily their most profitable.