I'll admit I don't know the answer to this question, but has any City manager ever been directly challenged about their owners like Eddie Howe was yesterday?
Newcastle United now owned by the PIF | PL receives "legally binding assurances that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will not control NUFC" ;)
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This is totally meaningless nonsense. Your posts read like tweets from a twelve year old pretending to be a member of Anonymous.
Nope. I mean that you've clearly done some reading on the internet which has led to you post loony nonsense like the US is as responsible for the invasion as the actual country doing the invading which, however you slice it, is tinfoil hat mental. I think the reason you're swimming against the current on this is because you want to feel like you're smarter and more informed than 'the masses'. The irony being that that is a depressingly common and predictable way of conspiracy theories gaining traction. The US are far from blameless (like our own government) on many, many foreign policy issues but to say that they're as much to blame for this situation as the country actually doing the invading is one of the stupidest things I've ever read on here.
Speaking of amplifying stupidity...
fecking hell this thread is turning into the scripts for several perfume ads.
Not sure that's what's been confirmed here. Thanks for confirming you can't spell or construct an articulate sentence or argument. Keep reading your online sources though...you're clearly extraordinarily well informed. Who'd have thought that the US was actually as culpable as Russia for the invasion of Ukraine...you've really opened my eyes!
Oh boy, looks like some fireworks...is it worth the unignore though...
Russia are INVADING UKRAINE you absolute loon. It is impossible for anyone else to be as responsible for their actions. This is the last post I'm wasting as you're either a tinfoil hat nutter or Russian.
How some people become full members and can survive this forum is beyond me….
Mentioning no names
Mentioning no names
I'm not mentioning names but one poster is writing like he's been briefed by Peskov who recently said Russia didn't want to attack cities in Ukraine but did it cause of the attitude of the West. Poor sods didn't want to invade Ukraine but NATO and West made them do it..
"Russian democracy is far advanced." Fell of a chair when I heard that.
"Fit and proper" just means rich at this point. I'm amazed they even bother to pretend otherwise.
Feck I knew I had missed some quality haikus
lads.
My apologies for derailing this thread and for talking down to a couple of you lads.
My apologies for derailing this thread and for talking down to a couple of you lads.
Whatever your day job is, leave it… do this instead.
Some people have a calling. Perfume script writing is yours.
This is not the own you think it is
That’s, again, NOT true. Their is a reason we approached the OPEC leaders BEFORE going after oligarchs. Pressing the oligarchs is meant to ratchet up the internal pressure in the country to take Putin out, but they don’t have the funds or ability to affect the invasion at all.
OPEC stabilizing the price per barrel down to 60 bucks would essentially make this war impossible for Putin, wether he wanted it or not. He’s having to beg China to feed his soldiers as is.
OPEC and the crown prince could do it, we asked them, they met with Putin twice after that and sided with him instead.
That is exactly what happened. The crown prince is an ally of Putins and is directly enabling this invasion. States like the UAE wanted to break off and help and he shut it down REAL fast.
I feel like Chaos would be more a Calvin Klien fragrance, and spelt Kaos. He's American too so it's all his fault.
I dunno, seems pretty newsworthy to me.
I wasn't prepared for the level of crazy. Also, that's a helluva film.I know there's a 'morality maze', but I personally would be very uncomfortable with and would definitely oppose such a takeover of Blackburn, knowing what I know about the regime. I'd rather us remain a mid-table Championship team without such ownership, that become a major force in the Premier League with it, and I'm not really a 'win at all costs' kind of fan, though maybe people won't believe me there. But then again at least in my lifetime Blackburn have won 2 major trophies (I still find it funny that we've won silverware more recently than the likes of Everton, Villa, Leeds, Newcastle, West Ham etc.), while Newcastle on the other hand haven't won anything.
A colleague of mine that's a Liverpool fan said they would strongly protest in they'd ever been linked with such a takeover. I will say though that it is easier to take such a stance, when you've already seen your club win plenty of silverware. Yes they had a 30 year league title drought, but they'd at least won numerous cup competitions (Champions League x 2, FA Cup x 2, UEFA Cup x 1, Club World Cup x 1, League Cup x 3) just in the 21st century before finally ending it. Would he have had exactly the same attitude if Liverpool had gone more than 50 years without winning any major silverware like Newcastle have done? I'm not so sure.
A colleague of mine that's a Liverpool fan said they would strongly protest in they'd ever been linked with such a takeover. I will say though that it is easier to take such a stance, when you've already seen your club win plenty of silverware. Yes they had a 30 year league title drought, but they'd at least won numerous cup competitions (Champions League x 2, FA Cup x 2, UEFA Cup x 1, Club World Cup x 1, League Cup x 3) just in the 21st century before finally ending it. Would he have had exactly the same attitude if Liverpool had gone more than 50 years without winning any major silverware like Newcastle have done? I'm not so sure.
This sounds like my estranged friend’s girlfriend telling me to “do my own research” when explaining how Democrats and Hollywood are satanic pedophiles. I did Google the conflict, btw, and found no reason why the US, as terrible as they may be, are as responsible for this as Russia. As far as I can gather, Ukraine had a corrupt President who decided to opt out of an agreement with the EU and instead go for one with Eurasia and Russia, resulting in massive protests and ultimately him fleeing the country.
own?
I completely went off the rails from being pissed off from another thread and took it out on the two lads who had nothing to do with it.
Thus my apology.
btw. I have not seen you around much.
You only come out when England play as I remember.
The US directly helped with the overthrow of the regime that was friendly to the Russians and helped install an extreme right wing government that was anti Russian.
Our senators Graham and McCain were there in 2014 promising help.
Thus the 14,000 dead in the Donbass conflict.
But to your point on 'do your own research' You are right.
I responded to Mockney above.
Dont mock him -. people leave out a word in sentences all the time. I am sure he meant to write "FAR from advanced"Feck I knew I had missed some quality haikus
You'd believe literally everything the Russians say it seems?
How many were killed then?
Its not about the number but about the notion it was all Ukraine's fault cause they bombed Luhansk and Donbas thus making poor Russia to invade which they didnt want to, at least its how they portray it.
The point is it need not have happened.
REMINDER:
This is the football forum, for football discussion. This is a thread about Newcastle and their new owners.
It is not a thread about America, Ukraine and Russia.
This is the football forum, for football discussion. This is a thread about Newcastle and their new owners.
It is not a thread about America, Ukraine and Russia.
Still awaiting evidence that this actually happened. And even if it did, this is a dangerously pathetic false equivalence.
"Hey, the biggest club in the world has a few bellend fans. Therefore that club cannot criticise other clubs for being vessels of murderous autocratic regimes".
You are completely missing the point so I am not really sure if it is worth trying to explain but what the hell.
Putin, bad guy with nukes who will potentially launch them at NATO members.
MBS, bad guy with lots of oil who wants to do business with NATO members.
If you seize Newcastle you are going after a sovereign state which is not engaged in conflict with the West or it's allies. Leaving aside the lack of pretext for taking this action you will not achieve anything other than pissing off MBS and the only thing you are likely to accomplish is to push him further towards Russia in retaliation.
Seizing the assets of the oligarchs who support Putin is justified due to the conflict and they have no capacity to strike back at NATO. They might if you squeeze all of them hard enough be able to effect regime change as they and their supporters are within Putin's inner circle with direct access. It is a long shot but it is a legitimate strategy when attempting to avoid the potentially world ending consequences of a full blown military confrontation between Putin and NATO.
For the record I believe we should not have allowed the ownership groups of Newcastle or Manchester City to buy their way into the game in this country and I would stop supporting Manchester United in a second if they were bought out by a similar entity. None of this is relevant though because again the current actions of the Government are not related to any ethical or moral concerns but are part of a far larger strategy enacted by all NATO member states of sanctions and asset seizure designed to isolate and punish Russia to the point where continued aggression on their part becomes untenable.
Of course. I agree, Russia shouldn't have invaded Ukraine.
Eau de parfum.
UnacceptableI think you should let it play. To not do so is being complicit in their sports washing. Fcuk it. Let every thread on Newcastle descend into absolute chaos.
I’d be over the moon if, when someone mentions their new golden boy striker has ‘42 goal involvements this year’, someone chirps up with ‘42 is the same number of humans executed without trial by cousins of your board members last year’
Not 100% serious but also hoping it happens.
Yes. Constantly.
There's certainly more of a media highlight now because of the Saudi relations to the war in Ukraine.