Mitten has been fairly dubious on him since he arrived to be honest but has been pretty consistent in saying that he's had little to no involvement in board room matters, even though fans are crediting him.
You obviously didn't go into the players performance threads after almost every game last season if you think the players were generally liked. Most who didnt rate Ole said it wasn't going to be sustainable and here we are today.
If Rangnick has been the driving force behind all the restructuring at United and if that restructuring leads to success then the clusterfeck we've had to endure the last 5 months would have been worth it, huge if though.
I said this weeks ago about Rangnick. Didn't know who in his team were fasting. Never said nothing to Maguire when he got bomb threatened. You can tell he doesn't engage with his players so it's no surprise they're not responding to him. Yet his sycophants are quick to absolve him of any responsibility for the shitshow this season. He's never appeared bothered by any defeat.
lul
Being competent and making a mistake aren't mutually exclusive.
Yep, 100% this. No coincidence that suddenly all the armchair tactical rants have stopped as well. At least the coaches aren't getting abused week in week out anymore.
Absolute nonsense.
These players needed a motivator and simple tactics. It's not ridiculous to say someone like Big Sam would have been a better choice in getting something from this season.
Again, there can be more than 1 reason at a time. A lot of the players are playing like total shit and a lot aren't good enough and need moving on but he has also been absolutely shit, top 4 still could have been achievable under an actual coach rather than someone who has had 1 year in the last decade coaching a top flight team.
Nobody has said they are free of blame. Ralf also has to take a massive portion of it, however.
Andy Mitten is a good journalist but this stinks of client journalism.
People are saying it, we agree. You said people weren't saying it but obviously realised you were wrong. Now you're saying people are saying it but trying to justify it. You're all over the shop but I forgive you.
I've heard Andy say that a few times I don't really understand it. The Rangnick to Austria rumours started months ago, he's clearly had a new job lined up for awhile. Why would he need to protect his rep when he already had something coming? Also, in the last couple of weeks Rangnick has been more open about the fact that he has to be self-critical and accept he hasn't got everything right. Seems a bit of a strange charge to make about Ralf. In my opinion, Andy, Rio Ferdinand and others who've been pushing this line of Ralf distancing himself from the club, have only been banging this drum hard since Ralf fell out with Fletcher. Which I think reflects personal relationships as much as reality.
Let's be honest here Ralf giving the players so many days off to the point where the players were rumoured to be upset about it and thought they weren't doing enough training reflects poorly of Rangnick.
Am I?
So people are saying it?Am I?
I’m saying that “we may as well have kept Ole because of how terrible a job Ralf has done”, does not mean that “we shouldn’t have sacked Ole”. It’s not hard to understand. For most people anyway, for you it obviously is.
That sounds pretty unprofessional it that were true which is why I doubt it in all honesty, in fact I doubt most of the squad have gave up either. But things just wren't working out for whatever reason, most of these players will look better under a different manager. Or at least we have to hope they will as 70-80% of them will still be here under Tan Hag.
Huh? Murtough is the one doing everything, literally.
The Phil Jones bit has to be taking the piss.
Nobody's letting them off the hook. But you can't be saying that and saying Solskjaer had to go in the same sentence. He was held accountable for the results and rightly so, so why aren't you holding Rangnick to the same standard? We had about 4 or 5 real chances to cement that top 4 slot under Rangnick.
No? I think you need to take a break.So people are saying it?
Odd. Losing them was celebrated on here.
People say this like he should have been expected to be a really good manager.
There are many reasons. Ole built this team and was backed over multiple windows and pre seasons to get it right. Rangnick is interim and inherited a fractured bloated squad with a toxic dressing room.
Genuinely hilarious. When has a manager’s overall opinion gone up so successfully despite objectively failing in his current job? Currently he reminds me of Jose in his last season. Calling out a bunch of problems which probably have some merit, but either not addressing them effectively or actively contributing to them. Jose at least had two previous years of success though.
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I think this is clearly the case.
There's also a video of Mitten saying Rangnick isn't that good whilst then saying Fletcher is a top lad with bags of football knowledge and experience as if Rangnick as zero. He has a bit of an agenda even if some of his comments on Rangnick are correct
Perfect, this is all we should be using Ralf for and the point many were trying to make. I think the silver lining of this season is that the disaster it has been seems to have initiated real change to our football recruitment structure. So happy to see Judge has fecked off as well.
You can hold the players responsible without also letting the manager off the hook. Him failing to extract anything from the squad over 6 months is objectively a massive managerial failure regardless of how good/bad the players have been.
Doesn’t really fit with the lazy players narrative very well though does it?
