You literally admitted you were wrong several times.
I think he should be focusing on how to get cheap unknown young players into our club. That seems to be his speciality.
Where did I admit I was wrong?You literally admitted you were wrong several times.
I'm disappointed in you Mr Zen; I would have thought you would have learned some humility after so arrogantly defending Ole for 3 bloody years.
It's ok, you said no one said "we should have kept Ole" but they literally have, today too. You are merely using silly justifications for it now, but your initial assertion was that no one said it. You're wrong yet again, and haven't learned any humility
I think you need a re-read of this conversation tbh. Maybe you're the forgetful sort. You claimed no one said we should have kept Ole? They literally did, today. Sooooo, you're wrong, again. You were wrong about Ole too, but were too arrogant to admit it. This is a time to redeem yourself dude and I'm rooting for you, I really am.Where did I admit I was wrong?
Your attempted twisting of the argument is tedious. But that’s you as a poster in general.
Use the ignore function, it's perfect in such cases.Where did I admit I was wrong?
Your attempted twisting of the argument is tedious. But that’s you as a poster in general.
Who is genuinely saying Ole shouldn’t have been sacked?I think you need a re-read of this conversation tbh. Maybe you're the forgetful sort. You claimed no one said we should have kept Ole? They literally did, today. Sooooo, you're wrong, again. You were wrong about Ole too, but were too arrogant to admit it. This is a time to redeem yourself dude and I'm rooting for you, I really am.
Yes, yes, your username is oh so ironic; you've never come across as remotely 'zen'
What actually is your point here?His self righteousness is too entertaining, but yeah this conversation is derailing this disaster of a thread even more.
Who said they did? Your issue was the 'people like me kept bringing Ole up' and no one said 'we should have kept Ole'. Fact is, they did, with obvious caveats. By virtue of brining up Ole, people are going to counter the bullshit argument, and take a swipe at Ole. Soooo, 'people like me' will keep bringing up Ole, as long as Ralf is used as a weird way to absolve his 3-year tenure.Who is genuinely saying Ole shouldn’t have been sacked?
What about the **** of calling everything a ****? That has to the wild and most active **** on this forum
He’s tried to be as down the line as possible when I’ve heard him but he definitely leans to the side of Ralf has made many mistakes and can’t do the day to day of club management. It would seem that perhaps some of his sources are United players.
Does that mean we can forget moronic posts such as the above and you won't write dumb essays again on the same topic by revealing your total cluelessness?
Yes, of course! When he has fecked off, then happy days.
Or has he just been given the wrong job to do, which has now tainted him as been some sort of failure to some people.
Fair enough. I've tried to keep the same energy with regard to OGS.
Nah, he was just an interim coach. Shit, but coaches who got to spend ton of money for several years while winning nothing are far worse than any interim manager doing a bad job in 6 months time, without spending a benny or affecting the squad.
You're hatred is marginally more evident than your short-sightedness.
Not sure what this means. Would he have taken just the consultancy role alone?
I'm just looking at what's happened at Burnley in the last month alone, look at what Steve Cooper's done at Forest in the Championship since he took over a few weeks before Rangnick joined United. Simply no excuse for the shitshow here.
Sorry, you don't get assessed by £spent per point achieved. Doesn't work like that. Just your standard league position and W/D/L record is what matters. I know the Rangnites like to move the goalposts to suit their agendas but that's how it is.
It doesn't seem like you understand that Ralf was an interim manager who was hired for 6 months just to steady the ship before leaving. He was not in contest for the permanent job and had no target bar salvaging things and trying to finish top 4. He was shit and failed in that of course, doesn't make him in any way or shape worse than permanent managers who managed United for 2-3 years winning feck all and hindering the team with shit players that needed to move on.
No different to the 'Ole inners' and 'Ole outers' that was getting bandied around a lot on here previously. Get over it. And @el3mel, all previous managers have been appointed because of pre-existing circumstances i.e. previous manager getting sacked due to poor performances/state of squad etc., and Rangnick was brought in to save our season. We were favourites at one point for top 4. And how do you know he was not set any targets when he was appointed?Rangnites? Oh dear
This thread sunk lower today, somehow. From the obvious gaslighting, to the lack of willingness to discuss Rangnick in a fair or balanced manner, leaves a-lot to be desired.
I didn't say he didn't fail.
Interim managers can do no wrong apparentlyRangnites? Oh dear
This thread sunk lower today, somehow. From the obvious gaslighting, to the lack of willingness to discuss Rangnick in a fair or balanced manner, leaves a-lot to be desired.
if they succeed they'll get the credit obviously.He's been shite from a coaching POV, I have no quarrel about that. But come on, the levels of hate are crazy. Also, trying to discuss what he might do with the club in the future can't be discussed rationally.Interim managers can do no wrong apparently
We should apply, there's no risk!
But the same people who had an issue with 'Ole inners' etc, are the ones throwing around 'cultists' etc. I'm not under it enough to get over it, but the levels of hypocrisy are hilarious.
I hope he can give youngsters the last three games. Otherwise, this thread will continue to fill pages and pages with completely nonsense for Ralf ****.
Spot on. They haven’t given Bayern a scare since Klopp. For all the credit they get for developing young talent, given their fan base, they should be better.
Criticism of his coaching IS rational discussion...he is still our manager.
How come when ole was at the helm it was coaching but now it's not.
If Ten Hag is smart, he’ll take Ralf’s supposed dossier and throw it in the bin. Ten Hag should start preseason with everyone as a clean slate. It’s a new system, and he needs to see who follows HIS instructions, who is willing to do HIS work.
