Only if these condolences come from the heart, which I doubt.
Mino Raiola has died
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RIP super agent
He wasn't good at his job, unless you think his job was solely to make a fat wedge for himself.
He's always in his players' ear to convince them to move, purely for his own wallet. Has Pogba's career been helped in the last 6 years by Mino spouting crap about the club and publicly angling for a move away? No, Pogba has wasted the prime years of his career being disinterested and distracted. In 10, 20 years time will players think, I'm glad I have 5% more money in the bank, or will they think, I regret not achieving more as a player? If you think it's the former you're deluded.
I even think the notion that agents help get a better financial deal for their clients is at best overexaggerated, and at worst possibly a complete falsehood. Mino and his ilk were taking millions or even 10s of millions for themselves for a transfer or contract renewal.
Agents, especially the mega agents, don't help facilitate deals, they hinder deals, for their own purposes. They don't care about the players interests, they just care that players think they care about their interests. It's a leach industry. They exploit wealthy young men who generally haven't had as much academic qualification or life experience.
His ability and influence was overrated on here, because Pogba was our highest status player upon arriving and for the first few seasons, and it was a deal Mino had milked a ton from. Other than Haaland, he doesn't have (m)any top bracket players now. What City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barca, Madrid, Bayern players are on his books? Surely a top agent would get his players to those teams and regularly be doing business with the biggest ? No, he has a few top players wasting their careers at PSG though. I'm sure he convinced them it was the best move for their careers. Could he help a young player get a good first move or first big move, and make a big amount? Probably. Was that move necessarily best for the player? Not necessarily.
Anyway, whatever. Bye Mino.
He's always in his players' ear to convince them to move, purely for his own wallet. Has Pogba's career been helped in the last 6 years by Mino spouting crap about the club and publicly angling for a move away? No, Pogba has wasted the prime years of his career being disinterested and distracted. In 10, 20 years time will players think, I'm glad I have 5% more money in the bank, or will they think, I regret not achieving more as a player? If you think it's the former you're deluded.
I even think the notion that agents help get a better financial deal for their clients is at best overexaggerated, and at worst possibly a complete falsehood. Mino and his ilk were taking millions or even 10s of millions for themselves for a transfer or contract renewal.
Agents, especially the mega agents, don't help facilitate deals, they hinder deals, for their own purposes. They don't care about the players interests, they just care that players think they care about their interests. It's a leach industry. They exploit wealthy young men who generally haven't had as much academic qualification or life experience.
His ability and influence was overrated on here, because Pogba was our highest status player upon arriving and for the first few seasons, and it was a deal Mino had milked a ton from. Other than Haaland, he doesn't have (m)any top bracket players now. What City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Barca, Madrid, Bayern players are on his books? Surely a top agent would get his players to those teams and regularly be doing business with the biggest ? No, he has a few top players wasting their careers at PSG though. I'm sure he convinced them it was the best move for their careers. Could he help a young player get a good first move or first big move, and make a big amount? Probably. Was that move necessarily best for the player? Not necessarily.
Anyway, whatever. Bye Mino.
Sad that he has died so young, nobody deserves to die that young.
That it nothing else.
That it nothing else.
Makes you think how futile greed and the pursuit for more and more money is.
RIP
Strange how there were those stories about him dying two days ago, then the back and forth on if it actually happened or not, then the announcement today again.
Strange how there were those stories about him dying two days ago, then the back and forth on if it actually happened or not, then the announcement today again.
No condolence from me. I'd never understand why football fans "respect" this guy? He was just another leeches in the football world "extorting" money for himself, what has he done for the supporters that warrant "respect" and "awe"?
Respect for his skills more than him advancing / contributing to the sport or the fans. Football is a global business, agents are necessary and as far as agents go he was probably the best one out there.
I agree that there are a lot more people out there deserving respect than a guy who gets already rich / spoilt players a little more money.
Proper dead this time
Unless you have telepathic powers, it's something unnecessary to say
RIP
There are people that take a cut to promote/make a deal from books, music, modeling, etc.
Negotiating a contract for someone isn't extortion.
What have you done that warrants respects and awe? If you were to pass away, we shouldn't offer condolences to your family? What a weird criterion..
You're aware agents exist in other lines of work?
There are people that take a cut to promote/make a deal from books, music, modeling, etc.
Negotiating a contract for someone isn't extortion.
What have you done that warrants respects and awe? If you were to pass away, we shouldn't offer condolences to your family? What a weird criterion..
Is it just me or were people a lot more sympathetic when he died first time around 
RIP.
The ethics of the amount of money he took out was nonne of his business. That should have been up to the authorities to regulate.
Having a loud mouth was part of why he was very good. As an agent, you can only judge him from the pov of his clients. He was paid a lot of money to get shit done for his clients and he was undoubtedly very good at it. The way he did it was none of their concern.
Don't get me wrong, I didn't like the man and wanted us to have nothing with him but as a professional, you can only say yeah, he was good at his job.
To say he wasn't good at his job is so wrong. His job wasn't to cater to fans
Yep. His job was to get his clients fat stacks of cash, and he did that excellently.
RIP.
I did notice that myselfIs it just me or were people a lot more sympathetic when he died first time around
RIP Mino. Certainly a tremendous agent to his clients.
is this some sort of reverse april fools joke?
what has he done that benefits you as supporter especially supporter of this club?
I wont bother if you didnt, we dont even know each other either. Also theres an agent and theres Mino. in what world should agent received 20 millions for brokering a deal? and what good hes done to you as supporter, particulary supporter of this club? lastly, will you be trully devastated when Joel passed away?
Thoughts and prayers go out to Mino's close family who will be hurting next week following on from their pallbearer duties.
He doesn't need to have done anything for me, in order for me to offer condolences. What a weird requirement that is.
There's a difference between "being truly devastated" and offering sincere condolences. Raiola hasn't damaged this club in the way the Glazers have. He was just the recipient of millions the glazers and their minions decided to voluntarily throw at him.
In what world should Raiola have received 20 million for brokering a deal? In a world where both parties agree to it? It's not like he was forcing anybody to do business with him. His clients seemed to love it and were free to dump him at any time.
Raiola ran a good legitimate hustle. Respect.
Gutted
My mother always said if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything.
But she was a cnut like Raiola too.
But she was a cnut like Raiola too.
I understand this is meant to be rhetorical but in no world should someone receive 20 million for effectively acting as a middle man. There’s has to be little skill to this job if Wanda Icardi is able to do it. What he created was a monopoly that forced negotiations by virtue of acquiring the worlds best players
I can't say I was his biggest fan but those saying he was bad at his job are missing the point. He did what players asked him to do. Yes he got a huge cut but that's called commission - bit like the guy who got you to sign your mortgage papers or loan deal or the guy you bought your car from (if you went to a dealership.) And the clubs play their part by agreeing the deals (and by the way, people who keep mentioning how much players get paid are off the mark too - would you turn down more money if your boss offered it to you?
How many Liverpool and City players are Raiola clients? Which of the world's best players are his? Haaland, and?? Don't tell me Zlatan, Pogba, Dumfries and Malen are in that category.
I get the impression a lot of negativity towards comes out of jealously. Your post is a perfect example. Apparently, there is no skill involved. But he keeps getting the highest salaries and the best buy out fees in his client's contracts. He also keeps upgrading the contracts for his good players and is able to to get shit footballers into clubs they have no business being in (Van der Wiel @ PSG)
You guys don't respect a good hustle it seems.
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and why did he get those top players? because they wanted the guy who'd get them the best deal: I wish I had and agent to do that for me
Awful that his family had to first deny and now confirm it. Media in Italy really have embarrassed themselves.
RIP
His players seemed to absolutely adore the bloke, I guess he’ll be missed by many.
RIP the agent GOAT.
The game lost a real one, clubs taking back abit more power now. Rightly or wrongly.
The game lost a real one, clubs taking back abit more power now. Rightly or wrongly.
Probably already signed up Jesus! Imagine the fee he'll charge for the 'second coming'...
Seriously though, RIP dude.
Seriously though, RIP dude.
Definitely a Covid victim.
RIP; while he was nowhere near the awful person some claim he was, he represented eveything wrong with current "overpriced signings/monstruous salaries in football".
RIP; while he was nowhere near the awful person some claim he was, he represented eveything wrong with current "overpriced signings/monstruous salaries in football".
What the heck is going on here?!
Eric Hall is turning in his grave.
recovery from what?
Lingard ditched him a while back I believe