Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp | Depp wins on all 3 counts

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Right, but, in the corporate world over here (USA) we actually have training that specifically references this. The idea is, a woman should be free of having her appearance commented on by the male gaze, whether that's a positive or a negative comment is irrelevant. You are told to refrain from saying to a coworker things like "you look nice today" or "that outfit/dress really suits you". It may sound harmless, the person saying it may not have any evil intent or sexual impulses bubbling beneath the surface, but those comments will (and do) get you reported to HR. The same way a man wouldn't go up to another man (presumably) and say, "You'd be a lot prettier if you smiled more" or something of that nature, a man might feel entitled to say that to a woman. Misogyny is represented in the power imbalance between the sexes, where women are judged on their appearance (and how much they smile) where men are not. Doesn't mean you hate women. It means you're participating in misogynistic behavior.
You’re making a mess of it again.

No-one on redcafe is working with, or meeting with Depp’s lawyer.
A couple of people she will never meet simply remarked that she was hot.

You’re having a fecking nightmare here.
 

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Right, but, in the corporate world over here (USA) we actually have training that specifically references this. The idea is, a woman should be free of having her appearance commented on by the male gaze, whether that's a positive or a negative comment is irrelevant. You are told to refrain from saying to a coworker things like "you look nice today" or "that outfit/dress really suits you". It may sound harmless, the person saying it may not have any evil intent or sexual impulses bubbling beneath the surface, but those comments will (and do) get you reported to HR. The same way a man wouldn't go up to another man (presumably) and say, "You'd be a lot prettier if you smiled more" or something of that nature, a man might feel entitled to say that to a woman. Misogyny is represented in the power imbalance between the sexes, where women are judged on their appearance (and how much they smile) where men are not. Doesn't mean you hate women. It means you're participating in misogynistic behavior.
Wtf did I even read, human species is in a need of a big reset.
 

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I mean, whilst I really do get where you are coming from @Wing Attack Plan R in many ways, the second you bring up Corporate America as any kind of benchmark...


...nope



What strikes me about these photos is that pint of Hefeweizen. Anyone who has done a ton of blow knows that cocaine does not pair at all with Hefeweizen. I refuse to believe Johnny would make this rookie mistake.
Now this is a true statement. Clearly staged right there!
 

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Heard's lawyer is basically trying to get Heard to self diagnose scar tissue in her nose and represent it as expert opinion.
 

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Might be all that cocaine she snorted trough the vaginal tablet applicator :lol:
Oh yeh scar tissue could definitely be cocaine related.

But the problem is if she really went to an ENT specialist they could have just given the evidence for that rather than have Heard putting a false diagnosis out there in her own testimony.
 

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Oh yeh scar tissue could definitely be cocaine related.

But the problem is if she really went to an ENT specialist they could have just given the evidence for that rather than have Heard putting a false diagnosis out there in her own testimony.
They probably told her it's Cocaine damage :wenger:
 

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Amber Heard's lawyers reaction to hearing sustained, is like when my dog surprises itself with a fart and looks at me puzzled like "Was that me?"
 

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Right, but, in the corporate world over here (USA) we actually have training that specifically references this. The idea is, a woman should be free of having her appearance commented on by the male gaze, whether that's a positive or a negative comment is irrelevant. You are told to refrain from saying to a coworker things like "you look nice today" or "that outfit/dress really suits you". It may sound harmless, the person saying it may not have any evil intent or sexual impulses bubbling beneath the surface, but those comments will (and do) get you reported to HR. The same way a man wouldn't go up to another man (presumably) and say, "You'd be a lot prettier if you smiled more" or something of that nature, a man might feel entitled to say that to a woman. Misogyny is represented in the power imbalance between the sexes, where women are judged on their appearance (and how much they smile) where men are not. Doesn't mean you hate women. It means you're participating in misogynistic behavior.
No offense but the US really isn't a leading beacon of equality and defender of women's rights. In leading countries like Iceland, Sweden most companies do not even have a HR department.
 

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No offense but the US really isn't a leading beacon of equality and defender of women's rights. In leading countries like Iceland, Sweden most companies do not even have a HR department.
So we shouldn't even try? I never said the US was a beacon - leading or otherwise - with regards to women's rights. I said we have training over here to try and correct this behavior.
 
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So we shouldn't even try? I never said the US was a beacon - leading or otherwise - with regards to women's rights. I said we have training over here to try and correct this behavior.
During your training, may I ask when you get the thumbs up to complement a woman.
At what point is, “you look great” given the ok?

Can you ever tell a co-worker & friend that you think Kelly from finance is gorgeous?
 

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So we shouldn't even try?
I agree you should try but there seems to be a deeper problem in the US if rules like that are needed, if people can't give and receive compliments without its becoming something strange, ugly. I've worked in many countries including the ones I've mentioned and there were no problems I could see. If it's culture, education or a mix of everything I have no idea but they don't seem to suffer one bit, honestly the women were even more forward than the men in both countries.