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Elon Musk's epic bacon adventures
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The cars are fine. Not particularly attractive given that they look like giant dinosaur eggs sawed in half, but functionally they are very popular. The supercharger network is also a massive selling point.
They’re not well built cars Raoul. The tech is good, but the cars themselves are horrendous. “Made in the good ol us of a”.
Built in Shanghai, Freemont, Austin and soon to be Berlin. I think they're ugly personally (with the possible exception of the new Model S), but I struggle to find a better EV in terms of the car plus supercharging network infrastructure combo. That said, I'll probably end up with the new BMW EV.
You're surely not a car person are you? American built cars have been some of the highest quality for a decade or so now. This isn't the late 90s/early 2000s anymore.
If you're talking about Tesla's though, yes they are a little poorly built but you're essentially paying for tech. I'm not a fan of Teslas but I'm not gonna knock them for the market they serve
Even on tech, many car makers are quickly catching up. The area where Tesla is light years ahead is in still having its own proprietary supercharging network, whereas all the others have to rely on a patchwork of third party charging stations.
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True that. Model3 base price for the tech is still pretty good but likely won't last long as such
Interesting, is this something you've experienced yourself or just the general news? They've improved the build quality (inc panel gaps) as they ramp up and improved the new factories plus the new single cast shell (Model Y) is very different from their first versions. That said, they aren't built like a BMW. That may be down to supply of materials, weight and costs, for example there are aftermarket providers that will add more sound insulation material in the doors - so you have to wonder why Tesla haven't done that. It may be a different story with the new Model X and S which is their premium range.
The problem with EVs is building them - the big guys (Merc, Ford, BMW, VW, Toyota) are already electric now and released their lineups but they can't ramp up production. VW are needing to open new factories to compete (margin). Tesla already have the contracts with the likes of Vale and CATL plus Tesla are building their own 4680 batteries. They've all warned there will be a battery/materials shortage vs demand in a few years so I don't think it will be straightforward as you think.
I really like the new BMW i4 but it's still a converted petrol car not built EV first so it shows how far behind the big guys are (and that sucks for us consumers because Tesla can and have increased their prices such is their demand/pricing power).
Nobody has released an affordable quality decent sized car - that for me is the key.
In the UK and I think across Europe the supercharger network has now been opened to other cars (not all stations yet) - was announced the other day. Interesting move, has a downside but they may bring in additional revenue from the usage and it fits in with the vision of EV adoption.
A private company being miles ahead of state funded one? Well I'll be.
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a40175990/ford-online-sales-no-negotiation/
Finally getting competition
Finally getting competition
It was also super nice of Tesla to make sure the connectors were the same as other EVs in Europe.
EU regulations winning out there.
Don't think it's fair to say that SpaceX are way ahead of NASA. SpaceX is one of many companies working for NASA, to do stuff NASA no longer thinks it should do. Maybe it was wrong of them to do that, but NASA certainly does a lot more than SpaceX in the grand scheme of things.
That's fair, but I was comparing in terms of what SpaceX do which is build launch vehicles and they are a long way ahead in that. It's not entirely true there's no overlap as NASA are still attempting to get SLS finished and when they do it won't be a regularly used launch vehicle due to the cost, is years behind schedule, and will have a direct competitor in the Super Heavy.
I do agree that we should be comparing against the other commercial suppliers as NASA appear to be in the process of leaving the launch vehicle sector for now.
He wants to fire 10% of Tesla employees?
https://www.reuters.com/technology/...cut-staff-by-10-pauses-all-hiring-2022-06-03/
So much for having the largest market share.
He's not wrong here but not in the way he meant it.
In late May, when asked by a Twitter user whether the economy was approaching a recession, Musk said, "Yes, but this is actually a good thing. It has been raining money on fools for too long."
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I reckon his life ambition is to be a bond baddie, blowing up targets from space in his moon base
This guy is such a monumental wanker, isn't he? Plenty of billions available to buy Twitter, but feck those 10,000 guys that work for his company, he can't afford to pay them.
Yeah I know he started a very limited pilot program in Holland about 6 months and has now apparently expanded to a few other countries in Europe. Long term, it may be a strategic move to offset Tesla's reduced EV market share revenue by using the Supercharger network to charge non-Tesla owners more than Tesla owners to recharge at SC locations, thereby further incentivizing them to switch to Teslas. That would be an expected strategic move for a company that knows it will lose market share in the coming years as all the others catch up.
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If I know Musk he will take that well, for sure.
Does he go with;
A) old man
B) pedo man
C) the elite hate me, which is why I'm now supporting Trump.
D)Brandon
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"Expect more attacks like this on innovation, space exploration, and the future of humanity".
His bullshit con artist fooled a lot of smart people who wanted to work in space/aviation join Space-X
They were one of the most favored places for MIT grads to join for years.
Understanding that space and rockets were cool and selling that dream is his most impressive achievement.
A private company with public funding.
The man has a super bad feeling about the economy
Does he have insider knowledge?
Are the boom times over? His comments have made me wary of investing in the markets
Does he have insider knowledge?
Are the boom times over? His comments have made me wary of investing in the markets
companies that have their entire value based on hype/vibes and no justifiable product for that market value tend to suffer the worst in even mild economic slowdowns. For the likes of elon and tesla, their entire justification for obtaining power/influence/wealth is stock price over product. So if inflation bites and the economy slows, mirage companies are the first to feel it. In any slowdown investors will look for safety and when that happens you look for product value over vibes.
He should just refrain. Would avoid getting constantly bitchslapped online.Tweet
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John Lydon is an idiot then, if that quote is even real
My Model 3 has definitely gotten dumber lately. It'll brake on autopilot for no reason now, and has so many stupid alarms because it senses things that aren't there. Didn't do that before