Pitch is dog shite, will be a cagey game
Manchester United 2:2 Steven Gerrard's Villa (Sat 23rd July, 10:45 UK time)
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Me too. Delaying plans to watch the game this morning whereas recent seasons I’ve not been arsed one bit about missing them. The ETH factor.
Is this shown live anywhere?
Erik’s first real test?
Nani had been poor and Maguire has been poor. Either it's ok to boo both or none.
During pre-season preparations for a completely new season? Ten Hag's answer was brilliant because Maguire is in control of only one thing, his performances. If he sorts that, everything follows.
However, that doesn't mean it's not extremely idiotic to boo a guy during a pre-season tour for his performances last season where almost every player was poor - particularly considering it wasn't like he wasn't trying. One would have to be a really sad, bitter individual to participate in that.
It's a new managerial era, the team is trying to build positivity and forget the toxicity of the past, and some folks think it's a good idea to bring all that back? Read the room folks - Absolutely mental
Wouldn't surprise me if some of them asked him for selfies at the end of the game.
Spot on.
Especially when the whole squad was shite and player is trying his best and never said a bad thing about the club. This is all about "fans" putting their own egos before the club.
It's a sorry sight when Aston Villa arguably have a better midfield than Manchester United. Fortunately that front three should be too much of a handful for their backline, but we're also desperately thin there and can't afford any injuries.
If anyone gets a “river” I’d love a PM
signed up for MUTV and paid, but it’s had technical errors they can’t fix, so I’ve missed every game and paid for nothing. So I feel morally okay using a river
signed up for MUTV and paid, but it’s had technical errors they can’t fix, so I’ve missed every game and paid for nothing. So I feel morally okay using a river
Nonsense. Nani was booed for a very specific action. Walking off slowly when he was subbed in a game where time was running out and we needed a goal. That was the one and only time it happened.
Maguire was being booed every time he touched the ball, irrespective of what he was doing on the day. Completely different scenarios.
I'm playing devil's advocate here, and you're obviously showing your biases on how to be a fan, you're very narrow minded.
@Catt it was okay to boo Nani, I just said it was harsh? So yes, it's okay to do both.
A supporter can do whatever they want, I won't call other fans they're fake if they choose to boo or not, it's stupid and scream "I'm a top red, do as I do or you're not a real fan" - it makes said person even more of a bellend than those that choose to boo after 1 bad game to be fair (not sure any fan has ever booed a player after one bad game).
On a side note, is it okay to criticise that player, is it just the act of booing that makes you a fake fan, or criticism in general?
@Samid what channel is showing the game in Norway?
But you will go around calling other fans top reds?
I still consider booing Nani as harsh.
And that's your view, which you're completely entitled to, but Maguire has performed terribly over the season, and the fans in the stadium booed him because of that.
I just don't like supporters calling other supporters fake fans, it's stupid and where does it end? Even in your post you said it was fine to boo at one point but not another? Do we, as supporters come up with guidelines on how to support the club, and if you deviate you're no longer a "real" fan?
Basically, yes. They’re unwritten but they’ve always been there and they’re obvious.
Yes, that's not saying they're not supporters, they clearly are, they just take a holier than you attitude, which is the definition of a top red?But you will go around calling other fans top reds?
MUTV
Calling United fans glory supporters made sense in the 90s and 2000s …. Not anymore, more like jumped up despondency supporters
All the talk of booing makes me laugh. It's ultimately harmless and criticism is part and parcel of being in any very well paid and high profile job. Get over it already and quit using it as an excuse to jump on your high horses
Well then we agree ti disagree, choosing at what point to boo a player is subjective - its like saying you can't get angry until a certain point, everyone has different thresholds.
100%.
Forgot this was the match thread for a second. Lads. Stop please
If anyone is looking for a river, PM me and I’ll show you an example of one that is completely unacceptable and one which I do not endorse at all 
United fans should boo every player, all the time. It'll force all of them to play better.
Razzmatazz
Anyone with a river, please message. I AM AT A WEDDING AND CANT USE THE VIRGIN APP.
Hate virgin so much.
Hate virgin so much.
All the way from fellaini to now Maguire booing your own players is just bellend behaviour.
It never used to be.
Full strength Villa team, let's see how we perform.
Trying to get the stream going on my apple TV app but whenever I press the live button I just get the same 15-second loop going. Anyone know what the problem is? Working fine on my computer.
Apple TV doesn’t always play paid to air services. It could be that.
Looking forward to seeing how Donny plays today alongside Fred
This Villa XI looks no worse than ours on paper.
Didn't realise villa has quite a strong team
Strong Villa team, which is exactly what is required considering the Premier League is starting in 2 weeks!
What the hell is this kit selection?!
Booing an individual player based on a previous match is pathetic (if your team). Booing a team performance after they all play dog shit is fine. But they're human beings. Booing or whistling someone on your own team is always dumb and ok maybe not fake fan, but shit fan 100
Jesus those kits