I have a feeling that we will quickly move onto Plan B or C now and leave Barca to deal with this shite with Frenkie alone. I was optimistic until today after seeing those tweets
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Gazza quite famously told Fergie he was going to sign for United then signed for Spurs instead
Extra sauce?
The only thing this saga thread hasn't had is posters keep telling us not to worry as there's still xxx days of the window left.
im bored to tears with it mate may as well have some funIts going to happen soon.
Stay the course muppets. Don't let the noise distract you.
Stay the course muppets. Don't let the noise distract you.
It really isn't sir
Gazza probably didn't what he was signing for.
Give up on Frenkie now, move on to other targets.
That tickled me pal. Tbh though I’m with you. Would love him here of course but if he is still undecided about moving to United then feck him. I want players here who can’t wait to pull our shirt on and run out at Old Trafford. Not uppity fecks looking down at the club.
I guess we don’t know exactly what’s going on but is a strange saga that’s for sure.
It's going to happen soon.
Stay the course muppets.
Don't let the noise distract you.
(It's haiku day)
When have you ever seen the reverse?
Thiago agrees personal terms with Liverpool, now Liverpool will talk to Bayern.
It really might or might not
Chelsea's new guy is too busy spending time with insufferable clowns. No way will he sign De Jong. An association with Corden alone should put off anyone wanting to join Chelsea.
Plus i genuinely doubt Chelsea are interested.
Plus i genuinely doubt Chelsea are interested.
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What is it with our owners and being involved in crimes against humanity. Boehly out! What in the actual feck is this? I'm disgusted.
Quite funny that our own fans are embarrassed about our club in this pursuit, whereas the media, other than the dodgy Sport, actually have been understanding on our position on this. Usually, the media would be battering us on this type of pursuit.
Imagine being mates with James Corden. Jesus, Chelsea are doomed.
And I’m here to take in every second of it.
And I’m here to take in every second of it.
Are you not getting mixed up with Gascoigne?
The whole thing has reached the level of the utterly bizzare. Why would ETH be pursuing the guy if he doesn't want to come here? Is Frenkie able to speak? If so, why would he not tell ETH a simple 'No'? Saying now that he wants to go to Chelsea would really be an insult to ETH. A kick in the balls. I don't believe that, and as pointed out in the title, it is a shit source. So, like Elvis before him, he don't want to go to Chelsea...
But what the feck IS going on? And are the CAF muppets beaten?
Has anything been posted to confirm the reports from earlier? Or are we still where we were before, with nothing really happening or changing?
Would love to know why the club wasted time on this if FDJ is adamant about not coming. Or is it a case of the club pretending to be doing something with no real intention of signing any other midfielder apart from Eriksen?
Shearer could have joined us too but went with Newcastle in the end. He really isn't the only one at all though.
What blasphemy is this?
Beaten? Not a chance. Its not over until our usual mouthpieces say we've moved on or link us to other targets
My guess is that its like this:
FDJ wants to stay at Barca - its his boyhood dream club, they are much better positioned to compete for big trophies than United over the next couple years, his fiancee likes the city, and they just bought a big mansion in town. But he and his agent know that his position is complicated due to the club's finances and that they will likely need to enter into some kind of negotiation about further wage deferrals/cuts. Staying at Barca under acceptable terms is their priority but there is uncertainty about what will happen. In that situation, no decent agent will foreclose the possibility of moving clubs because (a) its always good to have a backup plan and (b) informal talks with other clubs about wages gives you a useful data point and some leverage in your negotiations with Barca. So they tell United something to the effect of "We're delighted to hear you're interested. It could be a good fit under the right circumstances but we'll have to see what happens."
United really want FDJ as ETH sees him as perfect for the project. Up to a point, they are willing to wait for the situation to resolve. There are still five weeks left in the transfer window and this is a long term project. They're not going to bail on the manager's top target until they know for sure its not a possibility. And in the meantime it makes sense to hash out what a potential transfer fee would look like with Barcelona.
Barcelona would prefer to sell FDJ, but also know that they can't fully control the situation and that the player wants to stay. So they apply a little pressure to see if he is willing to move, also knowing that this might help set them up better for eventual negotiations about wage cuts/deferral. And they're happy to negotiate the potential fee with United in the meantime as part of this strategy.
That scenario makes everything up to this point perfectly understandable regarding the actions of all parties. And it means that the situation could still go in any direction, although its probably most likely that FDJ stays after some kind of agreement is reached between his agent and Barcelona.
We refuel and move forward. This will happen.
Fear you have nailed it with the latter
Gary Neville reported to the German courts by Barcelona fans regarding his tweet about Barcelona bullying De Jong.
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Aye they even went to the nth degree sending Murtough and the other fella to Barcelona to pretend to negotiate before heading to Holland to pretend to buy Martinez (note how he hasn’t actually been unveiled yet?)
it’s all one huge conspiracy… even ten Hag is in on it.
it’s all one huge conspiracy… even ten Hag is in on it.
I'm 35. I work in what everyone classifies as "IT" despite not working in IT, but my job is so unbelievably boring that it's not worth explaining to folk. I have four kids which means that TV time consists of Moana on repeat and outdoor time involves standing around in a park watching someone go down a slide three million fecking times.
I have to spend most of my day nodding and maintaining a minimal level of attentiveness whenever my missus talks about some mundane shite she had an argument with someone about, and watch drab horror and sci-fi movies just to ensure I can get my hole three times a week and not be forced to sleep on the couch with the dog.
If my life was a colour it would be the most tepid grey you've ever seen. Muppet Transfer Season is all some of us have. Don't be evil. Don't take it away from us.
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I'm afraid your pissing in the wind, with this one.
It should have been dealt with by now.
I am not sure I actually want this player anyway . I am not sure about his attitude and level of fortitude. He has not been that spectacular.
Any he and his agent have been taken for mugs, by that club. So I say them to it and find someone else.
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It seems I’m no longer the only one who questions whether ETH is this major attraction for de Jong.
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It wouldn't matter who was chasing him. He would be forfeiting the money they owe him if he agreed to leave on their terms. There's no way that wouldn't be part of any deal Barcelona would sanction at this point. If he holds out they basically have to pay him or negotiate with him. Or they can just not pay him which would be a breach of contract and he'dthen be able to take legal action.
And of course he's going to say he's happy to stay as that ramps up the pressure on them and means they can't villainise him....and there are worse fates than being forced to play for Barcelona FC while they are in turn forced to pay you the £13m you're owed .
I'm not exactly saying it means he'll sign for us, but the stupidity is all on the Barcelona side of the fence here as far as I can tell.
The only thing I'd say from our end is that with Ten Hag and Arnold running things there is the hope that we wouldn't be dumb enough to pursue it this far if there wasn't an indication from De Jong that he would actually sign. Woodward would absolutely have wasted the entire summer pursuing it regardless.
Is the same report from this morning no?
Nah he was just another one. Jack Walker hated us and told Shearer the fans would never forgive him if he came.
How I long for those cucumber days when there were no reports
Because our offer is still on the table and they are forcing him to take the offer.
Unless we walk away or it's nearing the end of the window and he is still not budging on his wages by then will I see them lowering their price to bring in others.
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