Other Bill Burr

[MarylandMUFan]

The worst thing about the new special is the audience. I've never been to Colorado, but the people there seem fecking insufferable, as evidenced by the fact that Lance Armstrong moved there.

What's the point of this post? He never or rarely shows the audience during his specials. It's just a strange take that the audience (that he doesn't even show) was the worst part of the special. Did they not clap loud enough?

Having lived in Colorado, I can tell you, it's a very diverse state with farming and ranching on the eastern high plains (no mountains in site), loads of people (including insufferable Texans and Californians that have moved their in the middle of the state, then a mix of ranchers and crunchy rafting guide types in the west.

 

[adexkola]

I watched the special.

The venue looked stunning. I can't imagine how it would feel like to perform there.

I agree with those tired about comedians bitching about cancel culture so I started cringing 5 minutes in. Thankfully he didn't stay on that for too long. As someone above noted, his self deprecating nature helps a lot. May he never speak on it again in his specials.

I also enjoyed his bit about his anger issues. Really honest and brave from him. You know he's an angry bloke but I've never heard him dissect it on that angle.

Was hoping he'd go on another rant about the population crisis, he slightly brushed on it. I'm building my own sub as we speak.

The abortion bit at the end... Good stuff that I think I've heard Louis CK say before in a slightly different way. I guess there's only so many ways you can speak about it.

Not his best special but it was good, and I think he has room to refine his introspective segments more. I think for many comedians, the gold standard is Carlin and Pryor, where their best material was profound insight about society or facing and fighting their personal demons we can all relate with. There's only so much you can riff about cancel culture and sex and fart jokes without being a hack... At some point you gotta go deeper. I think Ol Billy Red Nuts is headed in the right direction. Will definitely watch his next special.

 

[BenitoSTARR]

I really enjoyed it first time in a long time I’ve laughed out loud at a Netflix special.

Probably one of my favourite shows he’s done.

 

[Bebe]

Liked this a lot, probably my favourite of the various Netflix stand up specials following some of the Chappelle ones.

 

[Moby]

The pedestrian bit had me in stitches. Always enjoy the way he picks up little mannerisms.

Overall I enjoy that he basically goes out to find stupid behaviour in whichever group it is and takes on that behaviour not the actual group (something Chapelle etc go on about and make the whole thing sore).

It makes it a lot better viewing when he takes it a notch up even when there's a bit of social commentary or whatever but then stops it before it becomes a drag, and mixes up other stuff well. Watched it twice and it was great entertainment. His style of comedy works for me even though a lot of times I completely disagree with the underlying sentiment, due to the lack of seriousness in anything.

 

[youngrell]

Enjoyed it. The synopsis doesn’t do it justice, I also went in thinking ‘oh not this again’ but it’s very different to the tired stuff others have been doing.

I had never heard of Red Rocks before, looks like an amazing venue, would love to visit one day.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

The pedestrian bit had me in stitches. Always enjoy the way he picks up little mannerisms.

Overall I enjoy that he basically goes out to find stupid behaviour in whichever group it is and takes on that behaviour not the actual group (something Chapelle etc go on about and make the whole thing sore).

It makes it a lot better viewing when he takes it a notch up even when there's a bit of social commentary or whatever but then stops it before it becomes a drag, and mixes up other stuff well. Watched it twice and it was great entertainment. His style of comedy works for me even though a lot of times I completely disagree with the underlying sentiment, due to the lack of seriousness in anything.

Good observations.

Those two elements and the general air of self-deprecation is the difference between being properly funny and being a smug, irritating bell end like Ricky Gervais. Even though the themes they cover are similar.

 

[Rado_N]

You'll judge the set by the 22 word blurb?

Yes that’s what I said.

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

I felt this was a good special, the last one not so much. I do feel Bill Burr is a lot more tongue in cheek with the "woke cancel culture stuff" than others.

He's been doing this and having specials for almost 20 years and the themes are really similar, points fun and thinks every side is insane.

Trouble is, in this modern social media, clipped clips world we live in, his "gold digging whores bit" goes viral and lumped into the algorithm for 15 year old lads who hate women.

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

Yes that’s what I said.

Sorry Rado.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

Not content with pushing folks towards his new special…

He also hosts ‘Friends who kill’ on Netflix which was just released. His absolute dismantling of Kyle Rittenhouse and those who defend him is brilliant and brutal.

Spoiler: Rittenhouse

People defending him ‘He went there to defend his town. He loves his town, he loves his town’

“REALLY? He loves his town? When it snows does he show up with a shovel? Private Rittenhouse reporting for dooty! I’ll clear this sidewalk. Boy oh boy do I love this town”

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

I had never heard of Red Rocks before, looks like an amazing venue, would love to visit one day.

It’s on my bucket list too. Their annual line up looks incredible.

I think some of the criticisms of the crowd are a result of the venue. Ordinarily a comic will record 2-7 sets, which allows for lots of editing flexibility. This set was a one shot, so anytime a bell end pipes up at a point, he had to roll with it as they couldn’t cut in the joke from a different recording.

Due to venue costs and red rocks scheduling, comics simply can’t record multiple sets/nights there.

 

[MarylandMUFan]

Enjoyed it. The synopsis doesn’t do it justice, I also went in thinking ‘oh not this again’ but it’s very different to the tired stuff others have been doing.

I had never heard of Red Rocks before, looks like an amazing venue, would love to visit one day.

I think the U2 Red Rocks video helped make both Red Rocks and U2 more popular, at least in the United States. This video was a staple on MTV back in the day:
Sunday Bloody Sunday (Live From Red Rocks Amphitheatre, Colorado, USA / 1983 / Remaste... - YouTube

 

[2 man midfield]

As Leslie Nielsen would say: it’s not red and there are no rocks in it

 

[Red Stone]

I think some of the criticisms of the crowd are a result of the venue.

That's actually a good point. I guess I'm too used to seeing polished and edited specials, so this one was jarring in that respect. It started with the feckwit yelling "MUR'CA!", but that seemed to set a portion of the crowd off. So many pricks yelling out shite after that. I felt like Bill himself was getting noticeably pissed off with them too, but maybe that was just in my head.

 

[sugar_kane]

I enjoyed the special but the production is crap, it sounds like a bootleg recording rather than taken from the mixing desk - with Bill sounding far away and drowned out every time there is crowd noise.

For what it's worth I think Bill is a decent guy deep down, he occasionally says something really stupid or over the line but tends to counter it with the face he knows he's an arsehole, or even that he knows what he's saying is ignorant or bullshit.

He was brave enough to call out the cancel culture stuff very early on in a fairly common sense way which was hard to pick a hole, not in a macho/edgelord way just in a 'this aspect makes no sense to me, help me understand' kind of way which I think a lot of people can relate to.

Chapelle's approach on the other hand (particularly re: trans issues) genuinely comes across as quite hateful/ignorant nowadays, and I say that as someone who used to think he was amazing.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

That's actually a good point. I guess I'm too used to seeing polished and edited specials, so this one was jarring in that respect. It started with the feckwit yelling "MUR'CA!", but that seemed to set a portion of the crowd off. So many pricks yelling out shite after that. I felt like Bill himself was getting noticeably pissed off with them too, but maybe that was just in my head.

There was one part where he restarted a joke but what must have been some god-tier editing mitigated it. The part where he says ‘I know I said this before but I’m still working on it’. He’s almost certainly restarting a joke, or correcting a mistake.

I’ve been to a couple of Comedy Special tapings (as in 2 of them). The comic got about 90 seconds into a joke and just stopped, apologised, said he fcuked up and needs to start the joke again. The crowd were solid. Lost a little energy in the room but the guy got to have a ‘proper’ version of his joke recorded.

It’s probably harder to do that at Red Rocks in front of 10,000 drunk people.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

I think the U2 Red Rocks video helped make both Red Rocks and U2 more popular, at least in the United States. This video was a staple on MTV back in the day:
Sunday Bloody Sunday (Live From Red Rocks Amphitheatre, Colorado, USA / 1983 / Remaste... - YouTube

Unsure if Bono has ever made something more popular to be fair.

 

[UnrelatedPsuedo]

As Leslie Nielsen would say: it’s not red and there are no rocks in it

I mean yeah, but it is made of rocks and they are red.

 

[Solius]

Just watched it. I didn’t hate it by any means but I think I only laughed out loud a couple times, and I really like Bill Burr. Not sure why it didn’t click with me.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

Just watched it. I didn’t hate it by any means but I think I only laughed out loud a couple times, and I really like Bill Burr. Not sure why it didn’t click with me.

I felt the same too. The bits about wokeness, cancel culture and feminism just seemed a bit tired. I don't think he really had anything new to say on these topics.

Big fan of him, but definitely prefer other specials of his.

 

[lsd]

I like bill but at this stage he has just become that guy who just tries too hard to shock as he has nothing he really wants to say.

 

[Gringo]

I think I just prefer his rambles out in the wild rather than his actual stand up. Those driving segments he did on youtube were hilarious.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

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[Anustart89]

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I bet she feels really smart about that post too.

 

[kthanksbye]

Really enjoyed this one. Would be my 2nd fav just behind "you people are all the same", every segment in that one was funny, same as this new one, this one just had fewer and longer segments.
I've never really bought into the persona he tries to throw on stage, of the angry old man on a rant, his writing is very clever and meticulous, it's almost a science, every sentence is meant to make sure the crowd is not divided, the moment it feels like he's leaning on one side, he'll make a silly joke on himself or on the side you think he's leaning on, that's almost genius of him.
I'm going to watch this a few more times.
Even though I don't rank paper tiger in his top 3, but the last bit about giving away his dog was absolutely brilliant, almost perfect storytelling and insight on his personality and what he thinks about the difference in genders.

 

[cyberman]

I bet she feels really smart about that post too.

To be fair it’s not that far out of context. He has been mocking people for not going out to follow women sports for many years now

 

[RobinLFC]

To be fair it’s not that far out of context. He has been mocking people for not going out to follow women sports for many years now

And rightfully so, some outliers don't really refute his point. Yeah the attendance at the Euros was good and for a Classico and women's CL as well for some games, but the overwhelming majority, including WNBA games, people simply don't turn up or at least not in the same amounts as for men's sports.

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

To be fair it’s not that far out of context. He has been mocking people for not going out to follow women sports for many years now

Because they don't. Good they have started turning up finally but took women long enough.

 

[cyberman]

Because they don't. Good they have started turning up finally but took women long enough.

But they’re been coming out to support womens football in The States for many years now? They’re genuine stars over there.
https://worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/
I love Bill but sometimes his jokes don’t evolve as they should!

 

[RobinLFC]

But they’re been coming out to support womens football in The States for many years now? They’re genuine stars over there.
https://worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/
I love Bill but sometimes his jokes don’t evolve as they should!

That's the NT though - women also don't have a competition like the NFL, NHL or MLB unless I'm mistaken, so not weird that their NT gathers more attention compared to the men's imo.

Just as a counter-example: the Seattle Sounders averaged 43k attendance from 2013-2018. The nine NWSL teams averaged around 7k attendance in 2019.

 

[Anustart89]

To be fair it’s not that far out of context. He has been mocking people for not going out to follow women sports for many years now

She’s cherry picking three examples of well attended games yet Barcelona Femeni, featured twice on that list, had an average attendance of less than 8,000 according to a quick Google. His point was that women expect men to sort out the attendance problem in women’s football while not turning out themselves. Let’s wait and see if women’s football consistently draws attendances of over 20,000 before claiming that Burr’s joke aged poorly.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Even if the exact same amount of fans turned up to watch woman’s league football (which hasn’t happened yet) they’re only paying a fraction of the ticket price that fans at men’s games too. So if the women want equal pay they need fans to turn up in numbers and pay much more money for tickets than they do now. So his point still stands.

 

[Pexbo]

Even if the exact same amount of fans turned up to watch woman’s league football (which hasn’t happened yet) they’re only paying a fraction of the ticket price that fans at men’s games too. So if the women want equal pay they need fans to turn up in numbers and pay much more money for tickets than they do now. So his point still stands.

Fair enough but how much of that is done to the lack of historical opportunity? Women’s football was illegal in the UK for 50 years so it’s always been at a major disadvantage. The women’s football association didn’t even exist when United won their first European Cup. Had women’s Football had equal encouragement to mens football from grassroots for the last 120 years do you think you’d still be as dismissive of it?

 

[cyberman]

She’s cherry picking three examples of well attended games yet Barcelona Femeni, featured twice on that list, had an average attendance of less than 8,000 according to a quick Google. His point was that women expect men to sort out the attendance problem in women’s football while not turning out themselves. Let’s wait and see if women’s football consistently draws attendances of over 20,000 before claiming that Burr’s joke aged poorly.

It doesn’t even make sense, those are record crowds from an audience that aren’t solely women. If success is having 80 thousand women in a stadium supporting womens sport then it’ll never be deemed as a success.
What’s the reasonable ratio of women sports fans not being fans of mens as well? Bill is putting the success and failure of a sport on a smaller demo and it’s really not fair. Why does women sport success solely depend on women and not men simply not giving it a chance? Bill watches college football, he doesn’t go to class

 

[Murder on Zidane's Floor]

But they’re been coming out to support womens football in The States for many years now? They’re genuine stars over there.
https://worldsoccertalk.com/2019/12/25/uswnt-average-attendance-8-greater-us-mens-soccer-team-2019/
I love Bill but sometimes his jokes don’t evolve as they should!

Is football the only sport? Likewise they go out for the WC, do they turn up every week?

 

[cyberman]

Is football the only sport? Likewise they go out for the WC, do they turn up every week?

He’s talking about womens football in the clip that I replied to.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Women's_Soccer_League_attendance
Says here the average attendance is nearly 8 thousand per game and rising.
I know it’s a joke but it’s a joke he’s been saying on his podcast for many years that’s starting to ring hollow

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Fair enough but how much of that is done to the lack of historical opportunity? Women’s football was illegal in the UK for 50 years so it’s always been at a major disadvantage. The women’s football association didn’t even exist when United won their first European Cup. Had women’s Football had equal encouragement to mens football from grassroots for the last 120 years do you think you’d still be as dismissive of it?

Nobody’s being dismissive. We’re discussing a joke. The joke being bemusement over women complaining to men about why women’s athletes aren’t being paid as much as male athletes, despite not turning up to support/fund women’s sports in the same numbers that men turn up to support/fund men’s sports.

Obviously explaining the joke removed any last trace of humour from it. Plus Bill Burr’s delivery is slightly better than mine.

 

[Sweet Square]

You can tell that it’s a really funny stand up special when people are debating the history of women sports.

Next up - Are Krusty the clown views on immigration based on facts or just another case of fake news.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

It doesn’t even make sense, those are record crowds from an audience that aren’t solely women. If success is having 80 thousand women in a stadium supporting womens sport then it’ll never be deemed as a success.
What’s the reasonable ratio of women sports fans not being fans of mens as well? Bill is putting the success and failure of a sport on a smaller demo and it’s really not fair. Why does women sport success solely depend on women and not men simply not giving it a chance? Bill watches college football, he doesn’t go to class

He’s making a very simple point about pay being relative to appeal. If and when women’s sports attracts the same crowds (paying the same money for tickets) then it would obviously be unfair for them to not get paid the same as male athletes. Until then….

The notion that only men turn up to male sports and only women turn up to female sports is obviously stretching the truth for the sake of being funny. Although the general trend that much higher % of men invest time and money in supporting their favourite team is obviously true.