He’s low on confidence but I think he showed enough yesterday that, with a run of games on the left, I think he will start to produce. It’s Sancho I’m more worried about, who looked like he could have played until Xmas and not done anything yesterday. Still, let’s see where we are after 10 games - I’d expect both to find some form if we can get more control of the midfield.
Is there a place for Rashford as a regular starter?
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Fair enough though as it's accurate.
Right now we should be looking forward to a still hungry Rashford looking to get into the starting XI and hoping for the performances that would see him become one of the club's top earners and an England regular. Instead we gave all that to him at the drop of a hat and are now saddled with him and his superstar contract as one of our key attackers. Just stupid isn't it?
For what it's worth, I actually thought he was one of the better performers yesterday, not that it's saying much.
No idea what you've been watching if you say you think Rashford will start to produce and you are more worried about Sancho. Sancho has had some very good games in pre season and occasionally last season. He struggles when he has no one to play off/when we play poorly as a team. He's a pass a move player. Rashford on the other hand has been consistently awful, he hasn't had a good game in 18 months.
No, he’s a fairly good player who had an unorthodox burst into the limelight and has since shown that this was an unsustainable introduction into professional football. Now he is bereft of all confidence and plays as if he hates the game.
A happier, more confident Rashford, who plays a supporting role within a better team, would be a serviceable squad player in an ideal squad. We need a better option out wide and fast.
A happier, more confident Rashford, who plays a supporting role within a better team, would be a serviceable squad player in an ideal squad. We need a better option out wide and fast.
We have been calling Rashford a dumb footballer long before he missed that sitter yesterday.
You are correct missing that chance wasnt because he is a dumb footballer, its just because he just isnt very good now and his confidence is fragile.
We called him dumb because of his uncanny ability to run straight into an opposing player with the ball, usually at the edge of box, again and again and again somehow thinking it will work next time.
We do also call Maguire dumb for constantly getting pulled out of position with his obsession for winning a tackle 20 yards further up than he should be
We are a top half team now aiming for Top 6 finish so yes there’s space for highly overrated players that fail to deliver season after season
So excuses in 2020 that he was injured
In 2021 he’s still not recovered
2022 it’s low on confidence
Why are standards so low in this place?
So many alleged fans are accepting of players who have been consistently crap for 2 years.
Maguire and Rashford are the 2 players I'd have transfer listed (fired) upon arrival, if I were ETH. These would be 2 landmark firings and would scare the crap out of the rest of the squad. Also, It would give us a bigger transfer kitty to buy good players.
I want to remind the fans of just how bad we now are.
We finished last season by getting 4 pts from 6 games.
Including the last game we played, that's 4 points from 7 games. This is relegation form!!!
Why am I the only one who is seeing this?
I'm beginning to think that I am living in a parallel universe where you are seeing a MUFC team winning titles and I am seeing a MUFC team scoring 4 points from the last 7 league games.
I feel like banging my head against a brick wall.
So many alleged fans are accepting of players who have been consistently crap for 2 years.
Maguire and Rashford are the 2 players I'd have transfer listed (fired) upon arrival, if I were ETH. These would be 2 landmark firings and would scare the crap out of the rest of the squad. Also, It would give us a bigger transfer kitty to buy good players.
I want to remind the fans of just how bad we now are.
We finished last season by getting 4 pts from 6 games.
Including the last game we played, that's 4 points from 7 games. This is relegation form!!!
Why am I the only one who is seeing this?
I'm beginning to think that I am living in a parallel universe where you are seeing a MUFC team winning titles and I am seeing a MUFC team scoring 4 points from the last 7 league games.
I feel like banging my head against a brick wall.
Sancho should play from the left as he is better than Rashford from there. We have to play Rashford until we get a LF RW/forward. I dont think Rash will ever be a good enough striker for us and his peak was seasons ago.
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Who said he hasn’t?
So I am protecting Rashford having labelled him ‘crap’ in a previous post in this thread? For someone calling Rasford ‘dumb’ that’s one dumb take.
I agree it would be weird to say all players should be criticised equally, it would be weird because it’s not what I said. Did I say, A) Criticise all players equally, or did I, B) Highlight other players I believe have similar histories of mental lapses. They’re 2 very different things & what you’re attempting to do is either disingenuous or a lack of simple comprehension. Do better.
I’ll refer you again to a post in this exact thread where I use the word ‘crap’ to describe Rashford.
I’d say the midfielder who started 28 games to Rashford’s 13 last season & literally positions himself behind opposition players so he can’t receive passes, or the Left Back that’s been at the club for 8 years, had a few good months under LvG & a season under OgS who Ten Hag had to shout at on Sunday to run as he jogged to a ball whilst being chased down by an opposition player, something he hasn’t addressed for those 8 seasons but maybe that’s just me.
Enter the internet cliches.
Funny you mention being triggered whilst you prolong a discussion based on 2 sentences from over a day ago. 2 sentences that don’t actually bear any relevance to what you’re on about now.
As for whataboutism, the post you quoted consists of 2 of his club colleagues that I’d start with. You really should know what buzzwords mean before throwing them into your posts.
‘At best’ when Shaw’s been making similar defensive mistakes for nearly a decade. How’s it go, ‘whataboutism isn't going to make it any less untrue’.
What does this have to do with a 2 sentence post made yesterday about him being labelled ‘dumb’ in the immediacy of a missed chance?
Careful Rashy. The mob won’t like this.
Nobody gives a bolox about pre season Vs 5th string teams. Sancho is under pressure this season as one of the most expensive players in football history. Has he yet been decisive in a single competitive game for us, probably one or two... I believe in him but it is worrying, I don't care if he was good against kangaroo fc
So much of the Rashford hate stems from the disappointment in him for not reaching the potential we all thought he has. I still haven't given up on him. I saw him trying to press alot and got extremely unlucky with that 1v1. I would have liked him to slot it through the keepers legs if anything but it was an unbelievable save from the keeper.
Id like EtH to persist with him and keep putting an arm over his shoulder. I feel like a good run of form with this team would do him the world of good and could unleash that potential once again. I refuse to believe im just in denial.
Id like EtH to persist with him and keep putting an arm over his shoulder. I feel like a good run of form with this team would do him the world of good and could unleash that potential once again. I refuse to believe im just in denial.
Imagine saying this while not knowing it yourself. Saying what about x in a thread about Rashford was the relevant whataboutism. You even got mad at the word triggered. This is what happens when your understanding of the english language comes entirely from social media. I wasn't using it to troll you. I legitimately noticed the subject got you going. The term existed before the internet for god's sake. Judging by your outbursts in the thread I really shouldn't be surprised, it's like you have a tendency to misunderstand then get angry over your own misunderstandings.
Even this crusade about Rashford being unfairly persecuted for his lack of football iq is straight mental. You think you can stop people from commenting on the mental attributes of a terrible decision maker? If you think the likes of Mctominay are just as thick nothing is stopping you from giving their thread a visit.
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It’s not much of a crusade when I’m calling him ‘crap’ myself now though is it. . .
You continue to be a day late & a dollar short, the ‘visit their thread’ trope was addressed some time ago. Do keep up. As the self appointed arbitrator of things dumb I’ll be sure to look out for you in those other player threads though as you’re proving overqualified in the subject, ‘judging by your outbursts’.
Let’s say I’m indeed the many things you crammed into those paragraphs, I’ll ask again.What does this have to do with a 2 sentence post made yesterday about him being labelled ‘dumb’ in the immediacy of a missed chance? Or are we just standing at opposite ends of our keyboards playing internet forum bingo. whataboutism, check. triggered, check. use term troll in a sentence, check.
‘Words existed before the internet’, well done. Again, nothing to do with 2 sentences over a day ago but I’m sure you’ll muster a way to throw more insults & ignore my criticism of Rashford the player because what’s the use of nuance anyway.
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Rashford has to adapt his game. He's 25 in October, so he should be hitting his peak right about now. I don't know if that injury to his back permanently has slowed him down, or if he is just not using space to run into like he did, but he's trying to play as more than the proverbial flat track bully - and he can't. His 1v1 dribbling is nonexistent, so he can't beat a man that faces him up. His movement trying to drift between lines or pull fullbacks out of position doesn't seem to be working. He was never as good a finisher as Green*ood, and his finishing is letting him down time and again. Without pace, without trickery, and without precision in finishing, I don't know what's left. I'm hoping ETH has the solution for some of this, because the ability was there. Rashford of late is stealing a place on the subs' bench, let alone starting. Is there some kind of intensive/remedial clinic players can be sent to in order to correct flaws in their game? If so, sign him up. Otherwise, the head overrules the heart and he has to go.
Rashford is a dumb footballer.
This fact shouldn’t raise dander.
This fact shouldn’t raise dander.
We are at that point where we have to remember Danny Welbeck and how much we wanted him to be a great player for us.
You mean when you insulted a guy for saying he was a dumb player? The poster's comment was never directed at just the missed chance. You got told off by several others and tried to inject nuance after the fact to make it look like there was any depth to your initial outburst. Here's the best advice you're going to receive in this thread. Let it go. Most people moved on. Actually tend to agree with your posts often. Everyone would have forgotten if you didn't stick around to defend the car crash.
It's not even unreasonable, Rashford is a dumb player and one of, if not the single worst decisionmaker in the entire starting xi. This is like the most pointless thing to take issue with if you already think the player is shite. He sure as hell isn't shite because of physical traits or talent. I don't even agree he's a shite player but am not going to take issue with people thinking so.
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Let's not even forget he had been removed from the first team by the end of last season. Don't be surprised if in a couple months Rashford turns out to be yet another thing Ralf was right about. He has started this tenure the same fashion and if he doesn't turn things around is going to have the same series of events that sees him swapped with sancho, moved to the right, then the bench.
I agree with the sentiments of your post, but one question, would you not fire Ronaldo also? That would be a landmark move if ever there was one - it would simultaneously send a message to the other players that nobody is untouchable and a message to the Consultant/Director(s) that ETH is the boss now. It might also prove to the uninitiated that ETH did indeed read and understand the dossier prepared for him by RR.
The truth of the matter is Ronaldo, nor Rashford nor Maguire would be let go (or fired as you put it) because as I keep saying Man United is a corporate entity first a football team second (very much second). Whilst Ronaldo stays and plays the sponsors are happy and it allows delusional fans to think we are still one of the top teams in the world because one of the top players puts on our shirt week in, week out. Rashford may leave in the medium term, but it will be carefully managed so it looks like its on his terms, again for PR reasons Manchester United would not want to face accusations of turning against such a positive role model and England star.
Finally, Maguire is safe too, although I think he could have been stripped of the captaincy as a way of trying to give him a kick up the backside. But to sell him.... what would United get based on the last 18 months £20 million? £30 mill tops and there is no-way the moneymen would sanction a loss of £50/60 million, it just wont happen.
The way you frame your posts is unbelievably arrogant but also very amusing.
Says the man who began a back & forth by responding to my initial post yet still hasn’t addressed. . .
Ignorance. The latest check to your internet bingo sheet.
You could of course heed your own advice & leave me alone.
So not only do you see your disagreement as telling posters off but now you speak for everyone.
Lad why are you still here? You’ve moved this further & further from what apparently engaged you in the first place to a point where you’re throwing mud to see what sticks. I’ve called the guy ‘crap’ in this exact thread yet because you’ve wanted a row it’s as if Ima defendant of his, what a strange place.
What are you even talking about?
Rashford is and has always been a dumb footballer. This isn't news to anyone who has watched him for a long time. However, his pace, power and work rate used to make up for all of his shortcomings before. Brawns over brain. Those attributes have been gone from his repertoire for a long time now and his defincies are glaring. It's not "one missed shot and it's open season". He brings very little to the team and this has been so for 2 years. And now it's questionable how he even fits the new manager's preferred style of play.
And to say he is somehow being singled out is absolutely laughable. Just a few days ago it was reported Ronaldo and Maguire have received the most abuse on Twitter. And I'd say the likes of McTominay and Fred aren't far off either.
Almost every player involved in the last season was and is getting shit on. Rashford isn't special. What I think is happening however is that a lot of people are taking it personally in the case of Rashford because some conflate any and all criticism on his part as an attack on his persona and his off-field activities. While others have trouble accepting that their Golden Boy isn't all that on the pitch.
My interactions with footballers for the most part begin when they enter the pitch and end when they leave the pitch. I don't follow any of them on social media. I don't know what they are up to and I couldn't care any less. I only care if they are not available. And I can tell you this - Rashford is an average footballer that would better fit a mid-table club and should have been sold this summer. Like Delle Ali, like Danny Welbeck, and like many others. He isn't the first and definitely will not be the last. That's it.
Even with pace and trickery, thats not good enough. He is simply not talented enough.
Who said this?
Let it go man. He's a dumb footballer.
On form? Yes, as a somewhat limited player who has goals in him but we haven’t seen that Rashford in 2 years. Out of form and low on confidence there is an argument to be made that he shouldn’t make the bench.
Alright friend, good chat, look forward to our next interaction. Who knows by then, Rashford might even have improved his decision making and you can remind us of the time we unfairly dunked on him. Make sure to remind us.
I believe if he had more footballing IQ, he'd be a super star. He has the physical ability. However, he lacks the intelligence to make the right choice consistently. This has probably prevented him from developing more and which is why he seems to have plateau'd or regressed.
We need a right winger and should do anything to secure Diaby from Leverkusen!. Sancho on the left and Diaby on the Right. Rashford isn't it and is only in the squad because he's and academy player. I genuinely feel he would only start for 8/9 teams in this league as a winger, we should've cashed in on him this summer.
Rashford is painfully dumb. So is McTominay. So is Fred. So is Maguire. So is AWB.
None of them have brains that can keep up with premier league paced football. The cogs just do not turn fast enough.
None of them have brains that can keep up with premier league paced football. The cogs just do not turn fast enough.
I've been saying for ages that rashford is done at this level, now it would be mindless abuse to criticize him yet I'm seeing some still making excuses for him despite him kicking up shit for 3 fecking seasons.
He cannot:-
1. Run past defenders
2. Beat defenders by dribbling
3. Hold the ball
4. Pass the ball forward
5. Score from few yards out
6. Cannot defend
7. Cannot press effectively
8. Cannot head the ball anywhere on the pitch
Tell me if any of the above points is blatant lies ?
He cannot:-
1. Run past defenders
2. Beat defenders by dribbling
3. Hold the ball
4. Pass the ball forward
5. Score from few yards out
6. Cannot defend
7. Cannot press effectively
8. Cannot head the ball anywhere on the pitch
Tell me if any of the above points is blatant lies ?
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Did you call McT crap too in that post? If not, thats a crap take.
You've literally described all are attackers, that check list applies to all of them....
Being fast isn't that special, he lacks in so many areas.
Sancho is way better in these areas.
There's a place if we're happy with being midtable. He wouldn't start at any club serious about winning leagues and CL's and even his biggest fanboys know it.
Tbf to that one annoying poster Rashford isn't short of competition in that aspect. I think even the likes of Maguire don't get mentioned enough for their frequent idiocy. Even bruno. He just chose the wrong hill to make a stand on. I don't know if it's been said but he def needs to let it go.
I’m sorry. I was asking a legitimate question. I also don’t think there is anything smart about knowing what Socratic irony is. I thought that could have been what you were doing. I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, which, based on your reply, I may now have to revoke. I don’t know why you’re fixated on things that are ‘smart’ and ‘dumb’.
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