Shithousery by your team

[Andycoleno9]

Seeing Martinez and Bruno against Liverpool doing it and with Casemiro and (probably) Antony in a team, we will see that a lot in future. We will have 4 players in first 11 who are known for that "skill".
So what is your opinion about it? I know everybody hate it when other teams do it (especially Atletico who are masters of that dark art) but what are your feelings when your team do it?

Personally, i loved that. It was a breath of fresh air vs Liverpool and showed how much we missed that all these years. It lifts morale during the game and making other team nervous.

So, do you like it or are you annoyed when your team do it? Are you "lets not be dicks" or are you "they are dirty bastards but our dirty bastards"?

 

[Raw]

Absolutely love it, especially against a rival. Beating them and boiling their piss while we're at it is the best way to win.

 

[Member 125288]

I’ve never had a problem with shithousery (annoying as it is when playing someone like Atletico) because generally you need to get yourselves in front in a game for it to be effective, so you’ve earned the right in my mind.

 

[Tarrou]

I love it when our players do it

Diego Costa was fecking majestic at it

having 3/4 shithousers is about the right balance for me

Bruno the other night was on fire

 

[Oranges038]

Definitely need a few. Lifts your team knowing that you are getting under the skin of the opposition especially in big games.

Although, I wouldn't class Bruno as a shithouse, he's just a whingebag and that annoys everyone even your own fans.

 

[redcucumber]

Football is at its best when the shithousery is rife. For a top team City are extremely vanilla and it's just not the same.

 

[redcucumber]

Definitely need a few. Lifts your team knowing that you are getting under the skin of the opposition especially in big games.

Although, I wouldn't class Bruno as a shithouse, he's just a whingebag and that annoys everyone even your own fans.

Nah. That ball holding for Liverpool's goal was classic shithousery as it wound them up no end and wasted more time. Quintessential shithousing.

 

[Andycoleno9]

I love it when our players do it

Diego Costa was fecking majestic at it

having 3/4 shithousers is about the right balance for me

Bruno the other night was on fire

And Martinez too. That bump on Salah in first minute, then dirty stuff on Milner. Then little time wasting few times.
On match thread someone said that Nunez would give tough day to Martinez but if Nunez played, Martinez would sent him off with that shit.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

We've rarely been very good at it in the past, yet have often been naïve against teams who are. I'd like to see us get better at seeing games out when we're holding on to a lead. Teams have often done it against us, where barely any football is played in stoppage time, and I think we did it a little bit in the Liverpool game, better than in the past anyway.

Bruno is probably our biggest shithouse, but he's definitely garnered a reputation now. He needs to use it more sparingly, not only because refs aren't believing him, but it's also frustrating seeing him lay on the ground over nothing whilst we're defending. He needs to pick the right battle and not throw it around every time he's touched.

I'm all for it though. Sadly there's nothing to be gained in football from being honest, because the other team aren't going to be honest either. Rightly or wrongly, the whole game is about how much you can get away with.

 

[Oranges038]

Nah. That ball holding for Liverpool's goal was classic shithousery as it wound them up no end and wasted more time. Quintessential shithousing.

1 example.

Then you have the diving, the rolling around on the floor, moaning at the ref etc.. that's not shithousery that's just being a rat and a whingebag.

 

[redcucumber]

Absolutely not trying to dump on Ole here, but that regime's idea of a cultural reset was bringing in Maguire, AWB and Dan James. All three lack character and fighting spirit (James probably has the most in his defence). We've been a team of wet wipes for far too long.

 

[redcucumber]

1 example.

Then you have the diving, the rolling around on the floor, moaning at the ref etc.. that's not shithousery that's just being a rat and a whingebag.

Calling our captain a rat. Lovely stuff.

 

[Adisa]

He's a cnut but he's my cnut.
Sums it up.

 

[Red Stone]

Seeing opposition fans and players get progressively more riled up by some deftly executed shithousery is one of the best things in life. There's a reason Rafael and Herrera were fan favourites here, and it wasn't their footballing ability.

 

[Wumminator]

Salah was like this when Fernandes was trying carry the ball back. I prefer my players to act well, like Fernandes was.

 

[#07]

Its great. We've lost our edge. United used to be very good at riling up opponents. Brings me back to the Keane and Viera days. Nostalgic.

 

[Solius]

It's great when your own team does it and infuriating when the opposition do it. Will always be that way.

 

[Red_Aaron]

There is a time and place for it. Against your rivals where its win at all costs I revel in it.

Rooney diving for a pen to end arsenals unbeaten run was great for instance and in many ways improves the result as it drives gooners insane with rage

Don't like to see it week in week out though, especially against teams you should be able to beat without it. Getting some random Norwich player sent off when you're 3 nil up with 5 mins to play is unsavoury

 

[Shane88]

It's only good if we benefit from it.

Bruno is fecking shit at it. Always goes down easy and never gets frees because refs know he's a diver, always staying down "injured" for no fecking reason and argues with refs to no effect.

Worst "shithouser" I've ever seen.

 

[WeePat]

Love it. We’ve had our fair share of these shithouse merchants at Chelsea and it’s just fantastic. Nothing better than beating a team and then seeing their fans frothing at the mouth about one particular player for days after.

 

[flappyjay]

Absolutely not trying to dump on Ole here, but that regime's idea of a cultural reset was bringing in Maguire, AWB and Dan James. All three lack character and fighting spirit (James probably has the most in his defence). We've been a team of wet wipes for far too long.

I think James only lacked the skill to be a Manchester United player. He had the work ethic and doesn't seem to be a bigmouth.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

The thing about that Atleti game was - I wasn't pissed off at them for doing it, I was pissed off at the ref for dealing with it so poorly.

So yeah, I welcome our shithousery - if the ref pulls us up on it fair enough, but (and most likely) they let us get away with it - then that's on them.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

I fecking love it!! Makes it even better that it seems to have riled up every opposition fan and ABU scumbag journo’s as well. Keep it up lads.

 

[Glorio]

1 example.

Then you have the diving, the rolling around on the floor, moaning at the ref etc.. that's not shithousery that's just being a rat and a whingebag.

Wow ... Sounds personal this. "Whingebag" I get, but was it really necessary to call him a rat?

 

[arthurka]

It´s ok if it´s my guys doing it..

 

[SER19]

There's a line. Martinez was just playing a physical game and we definitely need more of that. Even bruno trying to wind them up is passable, but the faking injury stuff is too far. Like when he feigned that Salah had hit his face was just embarrassing

In general i think the term itself, shithouse, has become a sort of meme of celebrating some of the worst parts of our sport ie faking injuries and time wasting.

 

[romufc]

1 example.

Then you have the diving, the rolling around on the floor, moaning at the ref etc.. that's not shithousery that's just being a rat and a whingebag.

Its quite funny when Maguire doesn't speak on the pitch or back his players to the ref, he is not captain material, when Bruno does it he is a rat.

He moaned at the ref for giving Dalot a Yellow after 1 foul when Liverpool player done the same thing on the other side and didnt get a yellow.

 

[Sultan]

Beating teams by being better at football is always the ultimate. Shithousery is enjoyable to a degree when it's your team dishing it out. However, I always think the teams and players using those tactics do so because they lack the ability to play football than the opposition.

 

[phelans shorts]

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with it.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Beating teams by being better at football is always the ultimate. Shithousery is enjoyable to a degree when it's your team dishing it out. However, I always think the teams and players using those tactics do so because they lack the ability to play football than the opposition.

Hm, Barca at their prime? They did it despite being by far best team in Europe. Puyol, Busquets, Pedro, Mascherano were dirty feckers. And whole team had that mentality

 

[youmeletsfly]

There is no football without shithousery. It's enough that people these days already want to soften it up because today's men are turning into fecking pussies.

The more shithousery, the better.

 

[Oranges038]

Wow ... Sounds personal this. "Whingebag" I get, but was it really necessary to call him a rat?

Maybe rat was a tad harsh.

Its quite funny when Maguire doesn't speak on the pitch or back his players to the ref, he is not captain material, when Bruno does it he is a rat.

He moaned at the ref for giving Dalot a Yellow after 1 foul when Liverpool player done the same thing on the other side and didnt get a yellow.

Pick yout battles as they say. He moans at the ref for literally everything.

 

[Zen86]

Probably one of my favourite games ever is when we kicked the shit out of Arsenal when they were the far better team. Neville et al laying into Reyes

 

[RedC]

Any diving related stuff is a big no, the wind up stuff is great.

 

[redcucumber]

Maybe rat was a tad harsh.



Pick yout battles as they say. He moans at the ref for literally everything.

What's wrong with that? It was a tactic of Fergie's that our players would harangue referees and constantly be on top of them. They wouldn't get away with it now to the same extent, but if there's a chance that it influences them in any way then it should be done.

 

[justsomebloke]

Seeing Martinez and Bruno against Liverpool doing it and with Casemiro and (probably) Antony in a team, we will see that a lot in future. We will have 4 players in first 11 who are known for that "skill".
So what is your opinion about it? I know everybody hate it when other teams do it (especially Atletico who are masters of that dark art) but what are your feelings when your team do it?

Personally, i loved that. It was a breath of fresh air vs Liverpool and showed how much we missed that all these years. It lifts morale during the game and making other team nervous.

So, do you like it or are you annoyed when your team do it? Are you "lets not be dicks" or are you "they are dirty bastards but our dirty bastards"?

Of course I love it. As long as they're smart about it (which Bruno sometimes wasn't), and it works. And within certain bounds, naturally.

 

[little.triangles]

Beating teams by being better at football is always the ultimate. Shithousery is enjoyable to a degree when it's your team dishing it out. However, I always think the teams and players using those tactics do so because they lack the ability to play football than the opposition.

It's not always one or the other though. One of the best teams of recent decades - Pep's Barca - invented new forms of shithousery such as tactical fouling to dominate games. They were better at football than anyone else for a good period of time, but they still needed to operate on the margins of the game's laws for the marginal gains necessary to win leagues and CLs.

 

[Random Task]

I support shithousery when it's our players doing it.

I do not support shithousery when the other team does it to us.

Truth matters.

 

[duffer]

For some reason I absolutely hate it when goalies do it at penalties.

Also refs doing nothing about obvious shithousing annoys me more than the shithousing itself. Bruno not getting a yellow card for holding onto the ball after Liverpool was the ref not doing his job.

 

[Judas]

We need more of it. I think Bruno's antics the other night were painful and annoying, but its needed. Loved Martinez and Varane going down with cramp etc. I want smart tactical fouls, our players using their brains, being a bit more rough. We've been weak as piss for years.