Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

[spiriticon]

So many hardcore rambos in here. I'm sure most have lived in repressive authoritarian regimes and were out in the streets protesting every day, so tall is the horse they sit on when judging random russians.

Even those in Iran have bigger balls

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[General_Elegancia]

This will amplify to another level of dangerous level.

 

[General_Elegancia]

Do you know this for sure? I'm still in Moscow 7 months in, recovering, physically & mentally, from an accident where my best friend also got killed, plus my grandparents won't have anyone to look after them if I were to leave; I've been openly opposing Putin, going on protests since before I turned 18, I've protested against the inclusion of Crimea, went on the streets when the war started etc.; I wonder, would you turn me down if I was trying to run away? After all, I've had 7 months to leave and chose not to. Or the majority of people that I was hypothetically crossing the border with did and who cares about the rest.

This logic is also used by Estonian and Finnish border control when they're turning down Ukrainians that fled from the war to Russia (because it was the only way) and stayed there longer than the border control felt was appropriate, which angers me way more than the same treatment that Russians get for obvious reasons. But it's the logic itself that is at fault. Do an interview and don't let the war supporters in, don't fecking shut down the Iron Curtain from outside.

I have only one-word of "Respect" for your ideology.

 

[Relevated]

This shit can escalate at any point man

 

[the hea]

Aiden Aslin, the British volunteer captured in Mariupol back in April has supposedly been released along with 9 other international volunteers from USA, Sweden, Croatia and Morocco.

 

[Relevated]

Even those in Iran have bigger balls

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If the regime of Iran changes then its so clear to see that sectarian violence will increase in Iran and Jihadist groups will enter it.


The world is a huge mess.

 

[Eurotrash]

Just mobilize NATO. Putin would crap in his pants and return home

Putin may actually want that. Then he has an excuse for losing.

 

[devilish]

Putin may actually want that. Then he has an excuse for losing.

If that's the case then give him what he wants. I dare to say the West should add secondary sanctions, it should allow Ukraine access into the NATO and it should tell the Russians to either feck off from all of Ukraine or else NATO will go in and do the cleaning up.

 

[maniak]

Even those in Iran have bigger balls

Exactly the same.

 

[Rams]

Mobilization for a war nobody really wants is not a good idea, political suicide. Then there’s Putin’s the nuclear threat. There’s some issues mind in using nukes in Ukraine, mainly alienating its last few ‘Allies’ and the radioactive fall out on Russia itself. And just how strong and equipped is Russia’s nuclear capability in reality? They’ve spent decades talking up their military capabilities and just look what a farce their conventional capabilities have turned out to be. The Yanks, on the other, are hiding their true strength.
I expect that we will see Russia annex a large part of Eastern Ukraine the next few weeks, then the Russians bleeding a hemorrhage fighting a long drawn out guerrilla campaign by the Ukrainian resistance & army. Meanwhile Russia will be significantly and permanently weekend militarily, and will eventually seek for peace and withdraw from Ukraine (thus achieving the polar opposite from what Putin intends to achieve) when the inevitable regime change takes place.

 

[Raoul]

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[Carolina Red]

I expect that we will see Russia annex a large part of Eastern Ukraine the next few weeks

How?

 

[Cheimoon]

I expect that we will see Russia annex a large part of Eastern Ukraine the next few weeks, then the Russians bleeding a hemorrhage fighting a long drawn out guerrilla campaign by the Ukrainian resistance & army. Meanwhile Russia will be significantly and permanently weekend militarily, and will eventually seek for peace and withdraw from Ukraine (thus achieving the polar opposite from what Putin intends to achieve) when the inevitable regime change takes place.

Russia doesn't seem to have the capability for that, and mobilizing a ton of people won't change that. I'm rather thinking that this ties in with the 'referenda' planned for this weekend (I think it was?), and that Putin will use these 300k people to set up what will amount to a kind a human wall along the areas Russia will certainly claim for itself after the weekend.

 

[nimic]

These protests are pathetic and will die off in a few hours.

Here's what willing to die for freedom looks like:

Gatekeeping anti-state protests, what a fecking world we live in.

 

[Rams]

How?

By holding sham referendums and declaring parts of Ukraine as Russian sovereign land. Basically creating a fictional reality in order to claim any attack on those areas as an attack on Russia.

 

[spiriticon]

Gatekeeping anti-state protests, what a fecking world we live in.

What the Russians are doing are not protests. They are peaceful marches. Fairplay to them for doing it, but it won't do anything except get a few of them beaten up, mobilised and sent to the Ukraine frontline. Sorry.

We saw even bigger protests in February, and they died out to silence and nothing changed.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Aiden Aslin, the British volunteer captured in Mariupol back in April has supposedly been released along with 9 other international volunteers from USA, Sweden, Croatia and Morocco.

Randomly I saw them thanks Mohammad Bin Salman for his role in their release so assume he’s been a neutral go between?

 

[harms]

Even those in Iran have bigger balls

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At least 1026 people were arrested tonight for going out to protest. Have a nice night.

 

[Rajma]

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SIAP

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I’ve posted it earlier but apparently it’s not true (for now).

 

[nimic]

SIAP

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The feck

 

[Rajma]

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It’s full mobilization.

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[spiriticon]

At least 1026 people were arrested tonight for going out to protest. Have a nice night.

Great. 16000 arrested in February and then complete silence for 6 months.

 

[Gehrman]

So many hardcore rambos in here. I'm sure most have lived in repressive authoritarian regimes and were out in the streets protesting every day, so tall is the horse they sit on when judging random russians.

Stalin didn't die comfortably in his sleep. I suffocated him.

 

[Rajma]

SIAP

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[Raoul]

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I’ve posted it earlier but apparently it’s not true (for now).

Interesting. Can't see how they won't limit travel abroad given that a sizeable chunk of the population would likely flee if they didn't.

 

[NotThatSoph]

Great. 16000 arrested in February and then complete silence for 6 months.

With your gigantic balls and your wish for the West to do more directly militarly, why don't you go fight?

https://fightforua.org/

 

[Andersonson]

This shit is crazy. I really hope they can overthrow the government, but i highly doubt they will. He still has a lot of support

 

[spiriticon]

With your gigantic balls and your wish for the West to do more directly militarly, why don't you go fight?

https://fightforua.org/

Because I'd only get in the way these days with my poor fitness. They need proper help, not a fat hindrance.

I can best help in other ways.

www.u24.gov.ua

Donate.

 

[harms]

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Party pooper harms incoming.

She’s not a liberal, she works for RT and is a member of Putin’s “presidential council on human rights”. In a country without any.

 

[NotThatSoph]

Because I'd only get in the way these days with my poor fitness. They need proper help, not a fat hindrance.

I can best help in other ways.

www.u24.gov.ua

Donate.

Not to worry, you can be useful in other ways. You can go there to help distribute humanitarian aid, for instance. There are foreign volunteers in Ukraine doing all sorts of different tasks, If you're not in Ukraine right now it's because you don't want to. Not because you can't be useful in some way, that's an excuse and people with their balls in wheelbarrows don't need excuses.

 

[spiriticon]

Not to worry, you can be useful in other ways. You can go there to help distribute humanitarian aid, for instance. There are foreign volunteers in Ukraine doing all sorts of different tasks, If you're not in Ukraine right now it's because you don't want to. Not because you can't be useful in some way, that's an excuse and people with their balls in wheelbarrows don't need excuses.

And how do you know I haven't or am not planning to? How do you know I have or haven't had a few refugees in my home?

Please. I don't need to prove anything. I will help in my own way.

 

[MTF]

@harms , I remember when you posted a while ago about recovering from some health issues. I'm really sorry to hear that it was an accident that also cost the life of your best friend, I can't begin to imagine your pain. And having to go through it all while the country you're from and live in engages in this horrific conflict that I know that you're against.

Thanks for your continued posts here which provide a lot of clarity and context as far as what's accurate and what isn't coming out of Russia. Stay safe, man.

 

[Rajma]

Party pooper harms incoming.

She’s not a liberal, she works for RT and is a member of Putin’s “presidential council on human rights”. In a country without any.

I just found it funny, because why did the protests kicked off now? Apart from those genuine people (like yourself) on 25th of Feb. The reason is because people in Moscow/Leningrad didn’t care enough as long as Ukraine was slaughtered by some chechens, buryats, prisoners, low-lifers and alcoholics from the most remote and poorest parts of russia.

 

[NotThatSoph]

And how do you know I haven't or am not planning to? How do you know I have or haven't had a few refugees in my home?

Please. I don't need to prove anything. I will help in my own way.

Cool, send us a picture when you arrive in Ukraine.

How do I know? Come on.

 

[Bobade]

With your gigantic balls and your wish for the West to do more directly militarly, why don't you go fight?

https://fightforua.org/

Combat experience needed.

 

[VorZakone]

So this idea that a "cornered Putin" is even more dangerous doesn't stack up to the evidence according to this (slighty older) article...

There is just one problem with the assumption that Putin never backs down. It’s incorrect—part of the myth-making that the Russian president has successfully constructed around himself and has been all-too-easily swallowed by many Western politicians. Contrary to the commonly held belief, when faced with strength and resolve, Putin often backs down instead of responding with more escalatory steps.

Sometimes, a cornered rat is just a cornered rat. And when faced with a superior and committed adversary, it will simply scurry away.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/08/vladimir-putin-backs-down-russia-ukraine/

 

[NotThatSoph]

Combat experience needed.

Surely someone with balls of that size already has some, if not there are a variety of different tasks to do.

People living under authoritarian regimes have to protest and work against it in a way that satisfies @spiriticon's standard of bravery, but @spiriticon will help in their own way and don't need to prove anything at all. Russians doing things in their own way? Cowards, gulag or bust. Ukrainian refugees are cowards as well under that standard, I assume.

 

[dal]

And how do you know I haven't or am not planning to? How do you know I have or haven't had a few refugees in my home?

Please. I don't need to prove anything. I will help in my own way.

Stop spouting shit then.

 

[harms]

I just found it funny, because why did the protests kicked off now? Apart from those genuine people (like yourself) on 25th of Feb. The reason is because people in Moscow/Leningrad didn’t care enough as long as Ukraine was slaughtered by some chechens, buryats, prisoners, low-lifers and alcoholics from the most remote and poorest parts of russia.

A lot of those are the same people that went on the streets in February. This is just the single most notable change in Russian internal/external politics in months that could’ve lighten up the spark with less political public, hence the reaction — while all the other time those same people are protesting the war by different methods.

I doubt that the people that you think are getting out would’ve went out today, certainly not en massé. They’ll need time to understand what’s going on and to figure out the way to state their disapproval. And yeah, I fully share your frustration about that part of Russian society, especially those that weren’t truly convinced by Putin’s propaganda but simply went ahead with their lives since it was easier.

 

[africanspur]

Even those in Iran have bigger balls

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What do you mean even Iran?

Stop being offensive, please.

So easy for certain people on here, who've probably never had to undergo that much real hardship, to turn their noses up at people who live in a country where the system can and does kill and imprison its citizens for prolonged periods of time without any justification.