[Suedesi]

Awesome game from David, he was very proactive today and assured in goal. He clearly must have been told from EtH to play 6-7 yards further up the pitch to help intercept some of Everton's long balls. Did that fine and was good with his feet.

The goal he saves if he stays on the line haha

 

[Trophy Room]

I have never seen a De Gea performance like that. Gobsmacked. Perhaps he is coachable after all.

 

[Cassidy]

Awesome game from David, he was very proactive today and assured in goal. He clearly must have been told from EtH to play 6-7 yards further up the pitch to help intercept some of Everton's long balls. Did that fine and was good with his feet.

The goal he saves if he stays on the line haha

Yeah I thought he should have saved that

 

[sullydnl]

Good game. Is sweeping more this season.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

DeGea strong against Everton. Intercepted long balls, key touch to deny Onana (?) at the end, good playing out from the back. He even claimed a high ball!

 

[Skills]

I have never seen a De Gea performance like that. Gobsmacked. Perhaps he is coachable after all.

You never watched him play under Louis Van Gaal?

 

[calodo2003]

What? His reach is much better using that technique and the best goalies do it. Made a great save from Garner later on doing the same - complained about style then did uou?

Very much this. There’s a limit to how high / far a keeper can defend with their dive side hand, especially if the ball has any loft / inward spin on it.

 

[Stadjer]

David de Sweeper

 

[Poborsky's hair]

I was quite shocked to see him so far out of his cage and proactively picking passes. Is that a change and we will see new DDG? I think these things are just habbits not exactly that difficult learn like reflexes..

 

[Irwin99]

Seems to be finally getting a bit of recognition for getting better with his feet. To me it's been pretty noticeable with him under EtH in the past month or so. Actually had a sweeper keeper moment at one point

Maybe Jose/Ole/Ralf didn't focus enough on his distribution in training? Never heard LVG complain about him.

 

[Telsim]

Solid game from him. Saw him claim a cross and even did some sweeping. World class save right at the end.

 

[Red Royal]

He has clesrly been doing a little work on his coming of the line.

 

[bosnian_red]

Ball playing and sweeping much improved, good to see .. not going to go and say new contract though.

 

[nakpodiareuben]

David has his best game today as a sweeper goal keeper. Made the right decisions and was surprisingly very good with his ball distributions. There is no way he won't get a contract extension. With this kind of performance, he will retire here because bringing in goal keepers is always a risk

 

[Borys]

I like that he's more proactive, but the bar is pretty low I think. Decent game but I would expect that level of performance from any average GK in this league.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Was a rare sighting of the the lesser spotted De Gea sweeping but one I hope we see much more of. Fair play to him.

 

[Sylar]

Good save from garner.

But hopefully our next keeper (ideally next season) is one that can dominate the box especially towards the end

 

[Lay]

Keep doing this and I'll drop my agenda

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Good save from garner.

But hopefully our next keeper (ideally next season) is one that can dominate the box especially towards the end

I don't think any keeper is coming out to claim any of the deliveries towards the end to be fair.

Not without making themselves look like a right tit anyway.

 

[Sylar]

I don't think any keeper is coming out to claim any of the deliveries towards the end to be fair.

Not without making themselves look like a right tit anyway.

I think the initial one that started the whole thing.

I agree about the corners though. Also think if we have a keeper like that , opposition are less likely to put it in all the time due to doubt about keeper

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Some great sweeper keeper moments and looking nice and composed when we were passing it round the back. None of which I would usually expect from him. Credit where it’s due.

 

[criticalanalysis]

I don't like that kind of reach either. If I"m getting something to the right of me, it will be easier to do it with me right hand not my left hand. I also think that he could have cheated a bit to his left before the shot. With that being said, I don't think it would have mattered. That was a great shot and it would have taken an absolute worldy to stop that one

What? His reach is much better using that technique and the best goalies do it. Made a great save from Garner later on doing the same - complained about style then did uou?

He did the same for the garner save or the mata fk which is one of his best ever

Very much this. There’s a limit to how high / far a keeper can defend with their dive side hand, especially if the ball has any loft / inward spin on it.

For some saves, I can understand it because you want to use your faster hand (i.e the arm and your body position that can move the fastest) because the save is sometimes not about how far you can reach but how fast you can get to do it. However, if you're covering your goal/angles then you need to move both your feet to put yourself in the best position to extend your reach and that should be the further arm. I've used this example before on this thread I think: if you raise both your arms and sway them to left, which arm is the furthest away/reaches the upper left corner etc? It's your left and that's basic physics.

In the goal, the reason why his right arm reach is 'better' for him is not because it's the best arm, it's because 1) he's not moving his feet (as he was diving from his set position) and 2) he's not comfortable using it his left, which is a weakness imo. It could be because his standing foot is not stronger diving to his left etc.


Slo-mo at 32 secs. He's almost diving under it because his feet positioning was so static.

Anyways I don't want to be too harsh. If he continues his sweeping and passing then I'm 'okay' with this mistake.

 

[sullydnl]

Just on the bottom versus top arm debate, the case for opting to use the top arm:

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[CloneMC16]

That thread is exactly what I thought of after reading the discussion. I trust John Harrison on goalkeeping analysis. De Gea did the right thing. We conceded a great goal. It happens.

 

[Olecurls99]

I'm very critical of him so I'm glad I can be one of the first posters to say I really liked what I saw from him today. Very pro-active from his line, his distribution with short as well as long passes was actually very good too.

There not difficult things to do. He's just being told to do it now it seems.

 

[pratyush_utd]

Its only because of his insane shot stopping standards that I was disappointed when the goal went in. Then that save at the end was simply brilliant. Is sweeping up, coming for crosses and is surprisingly good at passing as well. No complaints at all

 

[Cassidy]

Its only because of his insane shot stopping standards that I was disappointed when the goal went in. Then that save at the end was simply brilliant. Is sweeping up, coming for crosses and is surprisingly good at passing as well. No complaints at all

Coming for crosses?

 

[croadyman]

Rio pushing for him to get new deal on BT tonight,only worth considering IF his distribution and command of area keeps steadily improving

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

Coming for crosses?

Exactly. He played very well from a sweeping and distribution perspective but he was still sheepish in his aerial ability duties.

 

[arthurka]

Coming for crosses?

Nah not needed, still lead rooted to the line for every single corner kick all the fecking time.

 

[pratyush_utd]

Coming for crosses?

He did few times during that game. Its getting better in my opinion.

 

[criticalanalysis]

Just on the bottom versus top arm debate, the case for opting to use the top arm:

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Thanks. That's good to read but these examples are specifically about top corner shots and the usefulness of using the opposite arm because it can generate more grip/power to block the shot. Iwobi's shot ends more at head height and was curled in, so it may not take into account that covering your angles (i.e getting to the shot first) is as important as defying gravity? Although he does say the stats back it up, so perhaps that can shed some light to how this is deduced. Again I realise I may be harsh here but it just looked like poor feet movement from De Gea for me and/or he read it wrongly because he did a double take due to being 'unsighted'.

Interestingly I've just looked at the first searches on youtube for the top saves of VDS and De Gea and unscientifically, it does seem De Gea favours using his opposite arm a lot, whilst VDS (probably due to his massive reach/length) parries with both hands and/or the furthest arm. Specifically talking about shots travelling to the top far corner of course.


The save at 7:55 from VDS is what I kind of hope/expect..

 

[Golden Nugget]

Couldn’t believe what I saw today. Was really good sweeping up and actually claimed crosses towards the end

 

[Lentwood]

I might be being harsh but I thought he could have done better for the goal.

I have no issue with him going with his top-hand but I dont think he moved his feet early enough. There wasn't a huge amount of power on the shot and I think if he takes one step to his left before diving he makes the save fairly comfortably.

Might have been unsighted and its definitely not an "error" so to speak but I always feel like we concede lots of goals relative to the number of shots we face.

 

[Desert Eagle]

I might be being harsh but I thought he could have done better for the goal.

I have no issue with him going with his top-hand but I dont think he moved his feet early enough. There wasn't a huge amount of power on the shot and I think if he takes one step to his left before diving he makes the save fairly comfortably.

Might have been unsighted and its definitely not an "error" so to speak but I always feel like we concede lots of goals relative to the number of shots we face.

A bit harsh but I agree. I thought he could have done better too. No way that's going in past peak de gea. Think he knew it too and it focused his mind and made him more alert the rest of the game. Good performance but annoying to hear Rio talk about a new contract. Under no circumstances should we renew. Thank him for his service and upgrade the position

 

[Lentwood]

A bit harsh but I agree. I thought he could have done better too. No way that's going in past peak de gea. Think he knew it too and it focused his mind and made him more alert the rest of the game. Good performance but annoying to hear Rio talk about a new contract. Under no circumstances should we renew. Thank him for his service and upgrade the position

Definitely agree with this part. Even if I did still believe he was one of the league's better goalkeepers (which I don't) his salary is insane and we need to move on from paying wages like that.

If we renew, I'll actually be very, very disappointed. Whether we move DDG on is a big moment for me in understanding whether we have learnt any lessons at all from a decade of mismanagement

 

[#07]

Was interesting to see DeGea be quick off his line at key moments. He's not Manuel Neuer but he's clearly trying. He also didn't look anywhere near as panicky as he usually does with the ball at his feet. There were a couple of moments where he took the ball and played a nice pass between two Everton players into Casemiro or Eriksen. Wasn't expecting that. Yes, he did also hoof the ball a lot. However, I'm going to give him his props. He's clearly trying to be what Ten Hag wants him to be.

 

[Volumiza]

DDG's performance was really interesting yesterday. The clearest signs yet that ETH has identified his weaknesses and is working on them. He had a good game and looked a fairly complete keeper at times.

 

[AltiUn]

Came off his line and snuffed out danger twice(?) yesterday which was fantastic to see. Excellent proactiveness and awareness. Wasn't a right lot he could do about the goal, was a well placed finish.

 

[Reapersoul20]

Any U turns after his performance yesterday? A DDG performance that was very good, with only one save. Unusual stuff, he's learning !