Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement

Is Ronaldo justified to say that he “feels betrayed” by Manchester United?

  • Ronaldo should be not be allowed to play for United again

    Votes: 1,536 81.7%
  • He's always been a massive bellend

    Votes: 884 47.0%
  • Messi has always been the better player

    Votes: 574 30.5%
  • He should be begged to come back with double the salary and ten Haag should bow to his greatness

    Votes: 126 6.7%

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It's weird as well how /r/soccer and /r/reddevils seem united in defending Ronaldo. Same on Tik Tok and a lot of the places that are easily swayed by bot farms to push an agenda...

Hmm, I wonder if this is just me being cynical or if there is an effort from the CR7PR team to negate damage by any means necessary...
We got some weirdos on here who do the same.
 

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The evidence is pointing towards Solskjaer and the likes of Fergie, Ferdinand and Bruno would only get involved after Solskjaer had made it clear to the board that he wanted Ronaldo.

Below is a excerpt from The Athletic which clearly points to Solskjaer being the one who got the ball rolling as far as the Ronaldo signing is concerned. And once that was established with the board, it was Woodward's role to then sell the idea to Joel Glazer.

Whitwell/Crafton: "Solskjaer placed a call to chief executive Ed Woodward with one aim — he wanted to know if United could do the deal instead. It was a quick conversation. Woodward agreed instantly and set about negotiating with Ronaldo’s Italian club, Juventus."

https://theathletic.com/2794203/202...n-to-manchester-united-how-the-deal-was-done/

Jonathan Northcroft in his 'The Times' column went on to say that Solskjaer ignored the advice of his coaching staff to sign Ronaldo because he believed Ronaldo's goals would make up for his off the ball deficiencies.
Ok that's all fairly convincing. I still find it bizarre though; do you think Mike Phelan pushed for him also?
 

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MIchael Jordan’s part of this clip from about 0:33 was pretty solid. I’ve thought it for a while actually..especially after signing the likes of Sancho on long term contracts and handing him 350k per week. It doesn’t really motivate the work ethic to improve or be better. He’s already set for life.
Nah it’s just old man shouting about the previous generation, which has gone on in all aspects of life for hundreds of years. Saw a tweet a while ago that had 100 years of examples 15 years apart of people calling the generation younger than them lazy.

The exact same things were said about players when Ronaldo was a teenager. Haaland and Mbappé are also set for life but they keep pushing. Greats will be greats regardless.
 

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Not for many on here. This what I’ve been slated on here for saying this week and called a fan boy for highlighting. It can only be all good or all bad for some.
The Caf in a nutshell. You either love Fred or hate Fred. Love Pogba or hate Pogba. Love Ole or hate Ole. Sad really.

I think all players who have competed at a reasonably high level empathize with Ronaldo. He’s coming to the end of his career and he’s fighting to stay on the field. Definitely some “grumpy old man” vibes. He feels compelled to burn down the house as he’s closing the door. But, under no circumstances should he be applauded for the way he has disrespected Ten Hag.

On the other hand, I am quite convinced that we are well behind Real Madrid, PSG, City, Bayern, Juventus, Chelsea, Liverpool and hell, probably Dortmund in sport science, qualities of the facility, diet and cafeteria, training, off field support, pre-game tactical analysis,etc..

This hurts us in recruitment, and it hurts us on the pitch. Ed and the Glazers ran United like an asset. You figure out the bare minimum you need to invest to stay semi competitive while maximizing revenue and milking the profits.

‘The fact is that Man United is poorly managed, mostly because SAF was our beacon. When that light went out we had no leadership. Hopefully ETH will restore that.
 

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The younger generation thing is very true. I watched that save my squad with David Beckham thing on Disney plus and I noticed the kids were more excited by how many Instagram followers becks had and what car he was driving. They want to be famous more than they do play football. The reason they want to play football is because of the money and fame. Sad
It's the infrastructures around young people. Monetisation, globalization, music and social media paint the picture of instant gratification. There's a generation of young people who are growing up without any correlation to the word process.
 

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Nah it’s just old man shouting about the previous generation, which has gone on in all aspects of life for hundreds of years. Saw a tweet a while ago that had 100 years of examples 15 years apart of people calling the generation younger than them lazy.

The exact same things were said about players when Ronaldo was a teenager. Haaland and Mbappé are also set for life but they keep pushing. Greats will be greats regardless.
I'd love to see that tweet. Genuinely.
 

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Nah it’s just old man shouting about the previous generation, which has gone on in all aspects of life for hundreds of years. Saw a tweet a while ago that had 100 years of examples 15 years apart of people calling the generation younger than them lazy.

The exact same things were said about players when Ronaldo was a teenager. Haaland and Mbappé are also set for life but they keep pushing. Greats will be greats regardless.
I was just thinking of the same tweet.

Feckin kids these days have no respect, no morals, no work ethic... Not like in my day. It's such a feckin cliché.
 

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The younger generation thing is very true. I watched that save my squad with David Beckham thing on Disney plus and I noticed the kids were more excited by how many Instagram followers becks had and what car he was driving. They want to be famous more than they do play football. The reason they want to play football is because of the money and fame. Sad
That's a bit of a stretch isn't it? Youngsters are interested in David Beckham's followers so it means they want to be famous more than play football? How exactly does taking an interest in a successful man's material assets prove they want to be famous more than play football, exactly? Are they not allowed to have those interest's?
 

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MIchael Jordan’s part of this clip from about 0:33 was pretty solid. I’ve thought it for a while actually..especially after signing the likes of Sancho on long term contracts and handing him 350k per week. It doesn’t really motivate the work ethic to improve or be better. He’s already set for life.
I guess the only slight problem with that is Michael Jordan was speaking about the younger generation when Ronaldo was the younger generation. Every generation thinks the next generation didn’t have to work as hard as they did.
 
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You again..

They’re two of the best in the business but clearly but it’s not the only way to go about things by having an idea very rigid system. Look at Madrid last year in the CL.

Maybe I’m more old fashioned in only wanting goals from a striker and a goalkeeper who makes great saves as their primary function. You can probably guess I’m a big fan of Ddg.
As I say, perfectly respectable opinion.
 

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Watching this now. His team mates must be thrilled with him rating them on YouTube.
The kitchen staff too. Feck me, this guy has lost it.
 

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I was just thinking of the same tweet.

Feckin kids these days have no respect, no morals, no work ethic... Not like in my day. It's such a feckin cliché.
I’m not too old but old enough to remember the fuss about Winston Bogarde being paid £50k a week to sit on the bench at Chelsea to sit on the bench in the years before Ronaldo even turned pro. It was all ‘modern game is ruined’, ‘where’s the motivation’ back then too.
 

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United are one of the few clubs that have their own medical-medical science center, the other clubs are the other giants. And none of them are at the forefront of sports science, not even the best american sport franchises are at the forefront. The leading facilities and professionals are scattered around the world in hospitals and private medical clinics.
Relative to other clubs of course. I don’t expect United to have Reed Richards on their payroll.
 

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How I wish Ronaldo would go to Roma. That would be box office on it's own with Jose and a geriatric Ronaldo.
 

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I was just thinking of the same tweet.

Feckin kids these days have no respect, no morals, no work ethic... Not like in my day. It's such a feckin cliché.
I can imagine those exact words said in an Irish accent. :D
 

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The Caf in a nutshell. You either love Fred or hate Fred. Love Pogba or hate Pogba. Love Ole or hate Ole. Sad really.

I think all players who have competed at a reasonably high level empathize with Ronaldo. He’s coming to the end of his career and he’s fighting to stay on the field. Definitely some “grumpy old man” vibes. He feels compelled to burn down the house as he’s closing the door. But, under no circumstances should he be applauded for the way he has disrespected Ten Hag.

On the other hand, I am quite convinced that we are well behind Real Madrid, PSG, City, Bayern, Juventus, Chelsea, Liverpool and hell, probably Dortmund in sport science, qualities of the facility, diet and cafeteria, training, off field support, pre-game tactical analysis,etc..

This hurts us in recruitment, and it hurts us on the pitch. Ed and the Glazers ran United like an asset. You figure out the bare minimum you need to invest to stay semi competitive while maximizing revenue and milking the profits.

‘The fact is that Man United is poorly managed, mostly because SAF was our beacon. When that light went out we had no leadership. Hopefully ETH will restore that.
Every follower of this team know that we are improving as a football club. I think most of us have no problem with what he said but calling out ETH was just too vindictive and disrespectful
 

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To me he comes across as massively insecure, with a constant need for approval and adulation. All this bravado, apparent confidence and arrogance is just a facade, I've never seen someone so thin skinned.
 
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The younger generation are, in most countries, better educated, far more competitive and a lot harder working than ours.

That is also true for competitive sports.

And I said ours because that works for any generation in here.
 

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God that was boring. 45 minutes we’ll never get back. For a total PR job it wasn’t even well thought out or put together. Can’t believe he thinks he’s charismatic :lol:
 

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The evidence is pointing towards Solskjaer and the likes of Fergie, Ferdinand and Bruno would only get involved after Solskjaer had made it clear to the board that he wanted Ronaldo.

Below is a excerpt from The Athletic which clearly points to Solskjaer being the one who got the ball rolling as far as the Ronaldo signing is concerned. And once that was established with the board, it was Woodward's role to then sell the idea to Joel Glazer.

Whitwell/Crafton: "Solskjaer placed a call to chief executive Ed Woodward with one aim — he wanted to know if United could do the deal instead. It was a quick conversation. Woodward agreed instantly and set about negotiating with Ronaldo’s Italian club, Juventus."

https://theathletic.com/2794203/202...n-to-manchester-united-how-the-deal-was-done/

Jonathan Northcroft in his 'The Times' column went on to say that Solskjaer ignored the advice of his coaching staff to sign Ronaldo because he believed Ronaldo's goals would make up for his off the ball deficiencies.
Ole signed his own “sack warrant” then, assuming that’s all true. There were reports that Ole was prioritising a CM, which is, of course, what we needed. If that went out the window to get Ronaldo then he must be as clueless as people say.
 

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Just watched the Webby/Oneil channel and they say Ronaldo has a massive commercial deal ready to drop on Friday, right on cue after this interview
 

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To me he comes across as massively insecure with such a constant need for approval and adulation. All this bravado, apparent confidence and arrogance are just a facade, I've never seen someone so thin skinned.
So true.
 

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Ok that's all fairly convincing. I still find it bizarre though; do you think Mike Phelan pushed for him also?
This is just my opinion.

Phelan was assistant to Solskjaer and someone who was said to be advising Solskjaer in his role. Both Solskjaer and Phelan were spotted several times at various different stadiums scouting players.

And if we listen to Phelan, it becomes pretty clear he didn't pay much attention to the technological or data side of the club, and he put that down to clubs having too much money in the present day. He would also go on to say that, he didn't focus on improving player weaknesses but rather only focused on player strengths. And he was advising Solskjaer as his assistant and it's no surprise that we ended up signing Phelan's former player Harry Maguire, who Phelan himself gave a full debut to at Hull before making him his captain at the same club. And a year before we signed Maguire, it was reported by Daniel Taylor in his Guardian column about how the United head scouts had vetoed the Maguire signing because they felt he wasn't a improvement on the players they already had at the club.

So to answer your question, I'd say yes, Phelan probably did influence Solskjaer when it came to signing Ronaldo, because Phelan was more than happy to turn a blind eye to Ronaldo's weakness ( off the ball) and instead only focused on his strength if we're to go off what he said in the above paragraph.

Phelan like many of the pundits we see in the game today either on TV or Radio, is wedded to a approach from a bygone era. And they believe that because they were successful in that bygone era, football is still the same without accepting that changes have occurred.

There's a big difference between being a successful footballer and someone who is a successful teacher in a coaching capacity in the present day. And in the present day, we see failed teachers line up the Sky and BT studios, whilst the successful teachers go about implementing a strategy in a coaching capacity at the highest level in the present day.
 

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Cristiano and Mourinho are so similar it's crazy.

Both absolute narcissists who have a massive ego. Both have a cult like following because of their charisma and swagger(Jose has extreme charisma like it or not and CR7 has the on field swagger going for him). Both rose to the top out of nothing. Both are struggling to cope with their decline.

It's interesting to see such similarities between two people of different generations albeit the same country.

Psychologists would have a field day dissecting and comparing the personalities of these 2 men. Reckon they are both on the sociopath/psychopath spectrum somewhere......
 

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Was a weird interview, it felt like everything was scripted with Piers Morgan refusing to question him on anything but just praise him and talk about how great he is.
Ronaldo seems confused about why people would dare to criticise him but how can pundits and fans look at his performances and poor conduct this season and not criticise it?
Piers keeps going on about the goals he scored last season so Ten Hag shouldn't bench him but Ten Hag is rightfully picking the team based on form, even Casemiro didn't walk straight into the team because Mctominay was playing well, he didn't start crying about disrespect he earned the starting spot by working hard and performing better
 
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I read the transcript for Part 1. So far, not really that bad. I want to see why he thinks EtH has not respected him. All I can see on the field is Ronaldo being a liability when the team plays football. If he is disrespected because EtH does not play to Ronaldo's strengths, he should ask himself if Sir Alex would bend over backwards to place 1 player above the entire team.
 

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Ronaldo talking about money and entitlement when he basically wants to take his United contract to his next club. He can't even sacrifice money for the CL football he's crying about. I wouldn't be surprised if this is just to force a settlement.

To make matters worse ten Hag has brought standards to the club but he doesn't like it because he's now asked to earn his place. The whole thing is hypocrisy after contradiction after hypocrisy. Talking about the club not believing him while doing an interview he lied to attend.

Even his rift with Greenwood last season. I always wondered how he saw fit to grill him for taking selfish shots after seeing Ronaldo do the exact same thing several times in a game. It's not like he was finishing them either. A guy who tantrums after being subbed is supposed to be a good influence for the youngsters. Ronaldo is a good example of personal discipline but he can be a terrible example when it comes to the team aspect.
 

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I read the transcript for Part 1. So far, not really that bad.
I agree. He actually seems to care about the club and its future. It doesn't mean that I agree with him giving this interview, but it is not as bad as people made of it in recent days.
 

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A reminder on top of all the things Ronaldo said in the interview.

TalkSport basically feels like he prepared his answers in advance since Piers was probing him when he didn't say the full things like on the facilities Piers interjected with "the swimming pool" to add that point, so they talked well in advance with everything they were talking about.

Also remember Cristiano actually reached out to Piers for the interview. He wanted to go and say all this shit.

Imagine being so petty trying to get a move all summer, and when you cant get a club you are benched, so you feel it necessary to go on television to bad mouth everyone.
 

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I must have missed the part where he has burying pretty much everyone at the club… sure he has talk shite about the manager (unforgivable) and some unnamed young players lacking motivation to work hard (which is true to be fair), but so far that’s about it. Maybe there will be more to come in part 2?
 
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