I don’t think I could do it that way. I couldn’t get behind a sportswashing project. I’m either 100% on board or I’m out.
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I think if you look at the things the Glazers haven’t done and what FSG have then yeah they’ve had success compared to United.
* Appointed Klopp
* Good structure with Edwards etc
* Development in stadium and infrastructure
* Operating in profit
* Major trophies
FSG have come to the end of the line now in what they feel they can achieve so are looking to sell. They’ve undoubtedly run the club as a business though I’m sure you’ll agree?
Some Liverpool fans want more investment and will crave City style owners I imagine. Much like many here.
People need to remember just how much of a money making monster United is though and consider do we really need that to compete and operate?
At the options presented, none excite me. Getting rid of the Glazers might feel good at first but we could just end up in the same situation with another owner.
Either that or we twerk for a dictatorship
To me I do not have a problem with business model, just that any new owner must be prepared for this capital intensive phase of the club.
So true.
There was more than enough reason for these guys to cease to support United under glazer ownership!Profit isn’t the enemy.
Profit as in increase the value of the asset. That’s what they’re all going to want to do. Anyone spending 6bn plus on us isn’t in it for short term profit - we’re far too valuable for that - to get a return they will need to grow the asset through spending on infrastructure and fully unleashing the huge potential this club has globally - which will only come from being successful on the pitch. The possible downsides are moral in terms of who purchases us and competency in terms of will they sack ETH and demand star names to grow the brand for instance - I think everyone buying us will have the same goal though - making us top dog. Fanbase, name, history and the fact we’re the biggest team by far in the EPL means they’ll be a huge bidding war in my opinion.
Yeah so I totally accept that the Glazers will make a tonne of cash out of this from the sale but I was trying to highlight that some fans seem to think this '£2BN' figure that gets mentioned is money they have made in profits...which it isn't, and that a sale is the best way for them to make money.
The 'cash cow' analogy for me is about 'milking' something regularly for profit (hence milk - cow). The minute you sell that cow to the butcher...great, you get a cash lump sum but no more milk!
See my point? If the Glazers were making £100m in profit for themselves every single year I highly doubt they would sell. They have realised the "milk" is in short-supply and better they fatten us up to sell us for our meat (I think that's why we spent huge money in the Summer personally - they planned this AND planned it to coincide with the World Cup for maximum interest from middle-eastern funds)
I looked through our accounts and did a thread on it once, some fans get the idea the Glazers are holding-back, taking loads of cash out for themselves or stashing money in the bank. Actually, if you look at our books, we basically spend everything we earn on wages, interest payments and transfer fees
Also, I think they only fairly recently started taking dividends and those dividends are fairly standard as dividends go.
That was the plan all along. Buy the club, spend the bare minimum to keep us "relevant" and after some years sell at a massive profit.Glazers are really going to make billions after years of mismanagement and neglect to invest in infrastructure
I can't think of anyone with 5 billion (let alone 10) to spend that I would really welcome.
I just cannot stand this thought...
It seems many of our fans want someone to buy the club, spend millions on it, not be bothered about making any money and run things with passion and not business acumen.
On the other hand these same people don’t want to be state owned due to their own morals.
So what buyers in the world with unlimited wealth are going to tick your boxes? Genuine question?
Perhaps we should just beg the Glazers to stay as it seems you all want the impossible.
On the other hand these same people don’t want to be state owned due to their own morals.
So what buyers in the world with unlimited wealth are going to tick your boxes? Genuine question?
Perhaps we should just beg the Glazers to stay as it seems you all want the impossible.
Glazers have been the owners since 2005 and that covers one of the most successful spells at the club under Fergie. Its only after Ferguson left that the wheels fell off the meal wagon. FSG have resuscitated Liverpool with smart management but in terms of infrastructure, have they invested in anything concrete like a redevelopment of Anfield or their training grounds?
Yeah they have redeveloped both.
That's exactly what I think.
I've made some research and I think that the main focus of future football investment will focus on growing sustainable value.
This includes:
- infrastructure (stadium, club ground facilities, academy, technical resorts)
- developing youth players from own academies (which is a great opportunity to grow player value without having to pay huge salaries like Manchester City does)
- getting rid of liabilities that cost huge interests
Any figures on how much they spent and the source of the expenditure? It seems our needs will be far greater than theirs.
For the figures involved with a sale of the club there are only really two options here:
There is nothing fundamentally wrong with that 'type' of owner (ie. businessmen) if they do their job properly (which the Glazers didn't) since the club makes enough money to compete at the top level anyway, which is shown by how much we spent on transfers over the past ten years.
Whichever scenario it is, it's irrelevant if we get owners who don't have a clue what they are doing like the Glazers and continue to make bad decisions and run the club into the ground.
- Sugar daddies (ie. oil state) with a bottomless pit of money to throw at the club
- Owners who run the club like a business (ie, to make money - not put it in without any expectation of getting anything back)
There is nothing fundamentally wrong with that 'type' of owner (ie. businessmen) if they do their job properly (which the Glazers didn't) since the club makes enough money to compete at the top level anyway, which is shown by how much we spent on transfers over the past ten years.
Whichever scenario it is, it's irrelevant if we get owners who don't have a clue what they are doing like the Glazers and continue to make bad decisions and run the club into the ground.
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Don’t know about figures but the Anfield Road development is huge
https://www.thisisanfield.com/liverpool-fc/anfield-redevelopment/
If Apple buy us we can repair the stadium roof by updating to the latest iOS.
Oh yeah. Billionaires are boring, we want trillions
iOS Trafford
At least we’ll be able to get a signal at OT
Liverpool and City fans will throw their iPhones in the Mersey/Ship Canal respectively
So what you’re saying is, my family member is wrong?
He may well be but he’s pretty knowledgeable with these sort of thing’s.
Apple makes sense. The branding they get out of it would be unreal but prepare for Apple Trafford etc. They’re buying a fanbase that’s 1b strong with the reach of English football.
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I think he thinks your family member is wrong.
Yeah he’s saying they are a spoofer
iTrafford surely.
We'll end up with a proprietary stadium that won't be compatible with the rest of the league.
We get a signal. It just can’t handle the 1000’s of people trying to connect.
We. Are. Massive.
They. Are. Worried.
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Anyone but the oil states.
I fail to understand how can anyone be okay with that.
I fail to understand how can anyone be okay with that.
You're right it was very early when I made that connection! I think the point I was trying to make was that the club is generally slow at everything...
Exactly my thoughts. That club dies once it becomes some plaything of a megalomaniac
Bit ridiculous and presumptuous to suggest Liverpool and city fans would own iPhones mate. If they did, they’ll be locked and available to buy for £10.
I'd still use Android.
Colour me skeptical but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that these 'stories' of the likes of Apple, Google, Meta and Amazon being interested are unsubstantiated bollocks and lazy journalism at best, where they're simply linking every multi billion/trillion dollar corporate to us.
In short - its probably bollocks.
In short - its probably bollocks.
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