We need somebody who can actually run to get up next to Moore. Not sure how Page hasn't figured this one out after the USA game.
One of Ramsey or Wilson out, James or Johnson on.
One of Ramsey or Wilson out, James or Johnson on.
Day 6: Wales vs Iran | Qatar vs Senegal | Netherlands vs Ecuador | England vs USA
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Another case of 'experience/favouritism' over form/quality.
Ramsey especially looks absolutely shot these days.
Thank you! Go Iran!
Good cross. Azmoun should score
10 years ago if you said that about an Asian team it would be seen as a compliment.
What a miss
yeah, i've had to mute it, unbearable
Yeah, definitely. Ramsey is more finished than Bale is. Mostly looked woeful even in the Scottish league last year.
I think he's very happy with his big Juve payday and has completely checked out since.
England will school Wales with how easy it is to break through their midfield and get into 1 v 1s against their backline.
Terrible from Rodon, he would have got there easily if he didnt hesitate first
Iran playing much better than they did against England.
They're improving for sure. I think Japan in particular has a chance to create a really talented team within the next 50 years or so.
This match is so bad 
Iran looking most likely to score. HT
I guess Iran could take a draw and fancy they could beat the USA and bank on England beating both USA and Wales. Wales absolutely need to win though.
Yeah, sounds like I did well to miss this one.
Is Wales keeper the guy who didnt hear anything about nazism or something like that?
One of these teams or US will make the knockouts. Let that sink in.
I think England played much better than Wales currently are is probably more the issue.
is it Earnshaw on comms, he's just what they need next to Moore
Think all the constant muscle injuries over last 3-4 years has reduced his impact. Watch euro 2016 highlights and he was constantly running through and linking up well with the forwards, simply can't do that now and beyond a nice pass he was never that good in deeper positions when played there for Arsenal.
Still only 31 aswell but certainly plays like a 35-36 year old midfielder who can't run much anymore.
They found Wales. They should actually fancy their chance here.
Id bring Welsh Xavi and Johnson on
Ramsay has to come off
dunno who else though but I’d switch to four at the back
Ramsay has to come off
dunno who else though but I’d switch to four at the back
Saving yourself for Qatar v Senegal yeah? Sensible choice
Which is saying something since they are terrible today as well.
A draw suits England best if they do the business against USA tonight. Also means Wales need a win against us in their final game to qualify.
I've watched Wales a lot over the years and Page is always the same, terribly overrated manager repeatedly bailed out by Bale.
You have to play 4-3-3 with this Wales team. Nico Williams has been binned by Forest from starting as wingback, he's just not that good. Get Dan James on and running in behind, even Johnson would do.
Nah, Japan and S Korea have been good for a while. And Wales is the worst European team here, and at least Ukr and Hun are better than them now that Ramsey and Bale are useless.
0-0 half time was an easy bet
Both teams need to attack second half so might make the match better
Both teams need to attack second half so might make the match better
Some moaning in this thread be fecked
I think that might be a fun game actually. I'll probably skip the LVG snooze ball after though.
Does a draw suit Wales or Iran more?
What does that say about Wales though?!
Draw is a fair result. I don’t know but it just seems like Wales have underperformed in this World Cup. Need a win here otherwise it’s curtains as I can’t see them getting anything against England.
Yup, said same thing a page ago.
if we lose this we’re out. If we draw, likely out too.
Not saying go all out but feck me, Page needs to realise where he is and how group will likely unfold. Was worried when saw last night’s interview and he mentioned he was loyal… knew Ramsey would be in. Combined with cautious approach = this pile of crap we’re watching.
Neither. USA will be the happiest out of the three nations.
I don't think anybody does rate him, do they? He's a League One manager who has come in to do a job after the Giggs situation.
I'd much prefer it if we'd have thanked him for his service and got an actual manager of some kind in after it was obvious Giggs wasn't coming back, but results weren't too bad so it wasn't going to happen.
I remember the days that we were everyones favorite 2nd team, because our football was pretty
Yeah I've no idea why the commentators keep saying it's must win for both sides. Iran could kick the can down the road to when they face USA, whereas this is must win for Wales you'd imagine.
Doesn't really suit either, if I had to pick then Iran. Wales aren't going to win England, Iran might beat US