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Just doing my bit to help, although 20k is nothing in the scheme of things.
The Sixth Street rumors definitely have me worried.
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Yeah makes me physically sick seeing that
There will be riots if the Glazers only sell a minority stake and remain in charge.
The minority thing is not happening. Please stop worrying.
Thanks!
Lots of people care about this. Just because you’re an absolute arsehole doesn’t mean everybody else is.
If you care about this so much, then why don't you go to Saudi Arabia and try to fix this?
It's impossible not to. I don't have any evidence to back it up, but I'm certain that this will be the best season we'll have for another ten years. By the summer we'll have a new minority shareholder in Soccerball Liquidation Corp, propping up the Glazers as United don't buy any new players, selling off all property assets apart from the Stadium and Carrington, all the while waiting for the resurgence of the Super League. And then the meteor will strike. Anyone who survives the blast will be inseminated with robot spider eggs.
Because I quite like my body parts being connected to my body.
Not happening since it makes no sense for an investor at this stage when the Glazers are on the ropes. Especially since they already know it will be to fund more Glazer extraction of funds from the business and pay off Glazer induced debt
I really want this to be resolved quickly, it feels like we won't make any sort of moves in the market with an eye for the summer until the new owners are in place. We could really miss out on a few targets if we don't start to lay the groundwork now.
I’d rather it was resolved properly in the long term benefit of the club. One transfer window will be neither here nor there, if it even comes to that which I doubt.
I agree with this. It looks like in the end it's going to come down to some American PE consortium vultures solely looking at the purchase of United as a financial investment or a ME investor with a deep desire to win for the sake of their pride and their country's pride. In that case, give me the ME investors each and every time. They're proven that when they buy a team they make investments all the way down the line into every little facet of the club and know how to effectively run a club and hire the right personnel. No short cuts will be taken in the name of increasing profits. They're there to win.
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I agree with you, for sure, but the Glazers are going to go with whomever offers the most money. They don't care about what's best for the club in the long term, so I'm not sure getting it done 'properly' really comes into it.
Obviously I hope the dice fall in our favour and we get an owner who won't saddle the club with their debt again, and invest in the facilities and infrastructure. However, if it's going to be more of the same then I'd rather it just happened quickly, so we can get over it and at least try and carry on in a positive trajectory.
Nope, that sounds too reasonable. And that's when they'll strike!
What makes you think the Glazers are on the ropes? They're not on the ropes financially and not all of them actually want to sell, they are selling because they seem to think they've go0tten as much out as they can but they aren't strapped for cash that they have to sell
Then you're doing what I said - virtue signalling. It's easy to talk behind the PC and how abhorrent foreign governments are but you're unwilling to do anything about it. Instead you just whine on forums about how bad they are like that's gonna do anything. The world is shitty all around and United is already owned by a bunch of corrupt leeches. Grow up.
I thought I’d accidentally clicked on the Andrew Tate thread for a moment there.
Why do you think they are seeking investment or possible sale? You think its because they are in a great position financially? They are on the ropes.
How is it virtue signalling? You just throw buzzwords around without understanding them like some Trump wannabe. You know jack shit about me or anybody else you attacks lives but want to act superior because you’re quite content keeping your head in the sand about any issues that don’t directly effect your life.
Maybe you should grow up, or at least grow a backbone.
Take it outside lads, Jesus..
Actually they aren't on the ropes, their thinking is that they have taken out as much as they can without actually investing any money, to make more money they need to put money in which they don't want to do, in other words they've bled out what they can and now want to cash in
I think you are underestimating the importance of the stadium in all of this. The Glazers commissioned a report to cost-out the various options for stadium refurbishment/rebuild and shortly after the report came in, they put the club up for sale. The Athletic reported that the Glazers (and Joel in particular) were shocked at the costs involved and that this heavily weighed on their final decision to explore strategic alternatives, including a full sale.
United can't borrow while the Glazer acquisition debt is still in place and nor can they fund the necessary works from United's own cashflow. If not for the stadium works, the Glazers could (and most likely would) continue as they have been.
Because when I asked what you've done about it, you've basically said nothing. How is whining on this forum going to help turn the Middle East into your version of happiness? How is them owning United going to 'directly affect your life' anyway? They'll ban gays coming to Old Trafford or something? If I had to guess given how they've ran City, you probably won't see them at all, instead there's going to be someone like Beckham in charge of the club. I would have understood your moral crusade if it had any basis or purpose. But at this stage it's senseless and directionless. Why don't you go out and protest against the fecking FA that allowed this cancerous shit in the league anyway?
Surely if it was a minority investment then the Glazers would be forbidden from drawing dividends or piling any more debt on the club?
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You didn’t even ask what I’d done about it, you asked why I wasn’t in Saudi Arabia. The fact you think these two questions are equitable sums up how much of a moron you are and why so much as reading any other responses you make is entirely pointless.
Wouldn't it just mean that dividends are shared out to more people?
I’m hoping that the sale goes through soon just so I don’t have to trawl through all the bitching just to get to read any updates or interesting takes on the sale.
It depends who comes in, but any PE house would likely call an end to dividends, yes, along with other controls.
And that's what we'll have to somehow do. Balance things - the books, the need to recruit players and take cake of the stadium.
Assuming a full sale goes through the very first thing I want to here from the new owners is the plan for the debt.
Even before the stadium.
If the new owners have any interest in having a good relationship with the fans they will committ to clearing the debt instantly if possible or at the very least announce that they will clear it in X amount of time.
Even before the stadium.
If the new owners have any interest in having a good relationship with the fans they will committ to clearing the debt instantly if possible or at the very least announce that they will clear it in X amount of time.
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He might have some interest in sport afterall
So if you personally can't directly affect something you should just abdicate yourself from having an opinion? I don't think so.
Merely being against something and stating so has an effect, epecially if many people feel the same and are prepared to say so long and loud. Even if nothing then changes trying is very important as nothing happens if nobody tries.
Just because an owner with lots of cash and no immeidate need for an economic return sounds good in many ways I don't want fossil fuel washing to occur via the club, be it from the Middle East or a Russian Oil billionairre, not to mention the various ethical issues I'd have with such ownerships. The Glazers are terrible but I'd like the least shit new owners as posible and that certainly isn't from oil money.
If we end up owned by the Saudis or similar I suspect that will be the last nail in the coffin of my love affair with football. The last decade has battered this already of course.
Players won’t give a shite when they look at the contract they are about to sign. Plus the club history and manager will also be important to some
Having an opinion on this is fine, but i'm honestly sick of this pandering. Why aren't you guys having an opinion about the FA allowing this in the first place, like I asked in my previous post? I haven't seen one of you guys, not even once, criticize the English government body for ruining the league? They are the ones in power, they are the ones you should be complaining about. Whether United gets owned by a sheikh club or not, it really doesn't change a goddamn thing. They'll either own us or move to some other club. How much will you people stand on your moral high ground while the club falls into irrelevancy? And what is any of this going to change? You ain't convincing anyone, certainly not the leaders of those countries that don't give a single oil barrel about what you think of them and their laws.
These countries also don't need to fossil fuel wash since fossil fuels isn't going away anytime soon. The insistence on quick transition to green energy is what created this fecking mess in Europe in the first place and gave Russia basically a monopoly on the energy supply in Europe that is strangling us right now. But I don't want to talk about economics. I just want to say that a Dubai ownership, for example, would have nothing to do with fossil fuels since Dubai as a whole today doesn't rely on fossils but tourism.
And finally, you say a Saudi ownership would kill your enjoyment of football. Okay. But how many millions of United fans enjoyment of football has the Glazers ruined throughout their years in charge of the club? I'd reckon it's easily in the millions, including mine since I'm this close to breaking with football myself.
I'll be the first one with you guys to say "hey, let's kick this oil money out of the PL" and get fan ownership or some model that will allow ALL clubs in the league to be competitive, but until that happens and I doubt it will ever happens because a lot of money is involved in this and not just in football but outside of it as well, why should we gimp ourselves? Whose really benefitting from this? Why let the rest of the league profit for this while we just watch?
Replacing an owner that makes the Glazers look like decent people. That’s my NFL team so I’m hoping for two nightmares to end this year.
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